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Old 01-13-2009, 11:59 PM   #1
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Couple of observations re: Camaro @ Detroit Show

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Wow...I'm assuming this one is pretty close to production. Interior is outstanding. By my estimation, just about everything appears top notch. I would even venture to suggest the seat design outdoes the vette...I can wait to see how it 'fits'. It may sound silly, but one thing that disappoints me about the vette is the steering wheel (same design shared with G6, etc...blech). The Camaro (while not perfect IMO) is outstanding..unique design, nice and tight, fat, and looks like it will feel fantastic in the hands. We've seen this for awhile, but I've been holding my breath hoping it would remain unchanged. If I owned a vette...I'd be swapping out my pontiac style wheel pretty quickly.


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WHAT IS UP WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE HOOD LIFT???? SCOTT SETTLEMIRE!!!!! As much attention to detail as was paid to this car and you mount it on the INSIDE of the strut tower?!??!?!?!?!? The 'cheap' strut tower brace upgrade is now not such an easy proposition. No a big huge hairy deal...but still... :( (and PS...thanks for everything else )

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Old 01-14-2009, 09:15 AM   #2
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Hood Lift?
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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The gas shock to hold the hoof up im guessing.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:33 AM   #4
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Hold the hoof up? Do we need a farrier for our pony car?
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:26 AM   #5
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:27 AM   #6
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I could care less where the hood support mounts. My surprise is in seeing only one support, allowing the hood to possibly rest at an awkward slant when open.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:53 AM   #7
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I could care less where the hood support mounts. My surprise is in seeing only one support, allowing the hood to possibly rest at an awkward slant when open.
Its an alloy (aluminum) hood so it won't be too heavy. And how long do you plan on having your hood open at any given time?
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:02 AM   #8
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^^^You're right, of course, with such a light hood it should be just fine. Hadn't thought of that. Thanks!
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Its an alloy (aluminum) hood so it won't be too heavy. And how long do you plan on having your hood open at any given time?
i wish it was a little heavier so it won't fly away as easily. i plan on driving with the hood up, so i would prefer having two shocks to hold it level. you get more even downforce that way!

to be a little more serious, i believe the GS car has a tower brace that fits fine... let me check



come to look at it, you'd think a race car would have something a little better than the stock air box
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:43 PM   #10
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i wish it was a little heavier so it won't fly away as easily. i plan on driving with the hood up, so i would prefer having two shocks to hold it level. you get more even downforce that way!

to be a little more serious, i believe the GS car has a tower brace that fits fine... let me check
come to look at it, you'd think a race car would have something a little better than the stock air box

Your version of CAI or is it just for downforce?

And since you brought it up, just what is the purpose of the strut tower brace? Does it have something to do with the engine torque or does it act as a sway bar for handling?
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Your version of CAI or is it just for downforce?

And since you brought it up, just what is the purpose of the strut tower brace? Does it have something to do with the engine torque or does it act as a sway bar for handling?
Decreases chassis flex...
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i wish it was a little heavier so it won't fly away as easily. i plan on driving with the hood up, so i would prefer having two shocks to hold it level. you get more even downforce that way!

to be a little more serious, i believe the GS car has a tower brace that fits fine... let me check



come to look at it, you'd think a race car would have something a little better than the stock air box
Don't see any hood lift (or whatever you want to call it) on that one...
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Don't see any hood lift (or whatever you want to call it) on that one...
this is the only other hood-up picture i've been able to find, and it don't look like there's any place for a prop bar, so i imagine it's gotta be held up somehow.

and before anyone says it, i know this ain't a production hood (or car, for that matter), but this is the only one with a strut tower brace, so we have to work with what we're given.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:06 PM   #14
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I could care less where the hood support mounts. My surprise is in seeing only one support, allowing the hood to possibly rest at an awkward slant when open.
If i'm not mistaken, the hood is aluminum in order to achieve the 52/48 weight distribution. One strut is probably plenty.

At leat we won't have to worry about the hood rusting through.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:16 PM   #15
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I think they have tested out the one strut thing ad nauseum it will be fine
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If i'm not mistaken, the hood is aluminum in order to achieve the 52/48 weight distribution. One strut is probably plenty.

At leat we won't have to worry about the hood rusting through.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:26 PM   #17
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this is the only other hood-up picture i've been able to find, and it don't look like there's any place for a prop bar, so i imagine it's gotta be held up somehow.

There are several hood up photo's on the thread "Road Trip in Victory Red Camaro" on photos forum. (Just scroll down towards middle and bottom photos)....No tower brace on the car though.
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:12 PM   #18
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:13 PM   #19
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Why is this directed at 'Father? It isn't like he designed the prop' rod. Give him a break.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:56 PM   #20
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Your version of CAI or is it just for downforce?
Nope, ram-air. Figure it would make a scoop about 3ft high and 4ft wide, all feeding into the intake. If only the power gains were greater than the induced drag . . . ah well. No free lunch
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:36 PM   #21
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Why is this directed at 'Father? It isn't like he designed the prop' rod. Give him a break.

Yes!

I did!


.......and the prop rod doubles as a 2 x 4 or a baseball bat!!!!





*insert woman's scream here*
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:44 PM   #22
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I think it looks fine, if one will do you dont need two.
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Yes!

I did!


.......and the prop rod doubles as a 2 x 4 or a baseball bat!!!!





*insert woman's scream here*
I hold you personally responsible for everything related to the car. Sorry.

I may not have 'designed' my children...but they've got my genes....and I have a feeling this car has quite a bit of your 'genes' in it...

(and by the way...this was clearly a nit...and I'm just giving you a little grief)
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I think it looks fine, if one will do you dont need two.
it wasn't looks that I was concerned about...it's adding a strut tower brace.
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So your first job once you get your camaro is to:

remove the strut and cut a pair of short pieces of box stock to use as props, which show up in this photo http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...ecarengine.jpg of my brother's racecar as a small blue piece in the upper right hand corner of the pic.
It's small, it's light and doesn't get in the way of your strut brace.
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