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Old 01-14-2009, 03:12 PM   #18
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:13 PM   #19
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Why is this directed at 'Father? It isn't like he designed the prop' rod. Give him a break.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:56 PM   #20
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Your version of CAI or is it just for downforce?
Nope, ram-air. Figure it would make a scoop about 3ft high and 4ft wide, all feeding into the intake. If only the power gains were greater than the induced drag . . . ah well. No free lunch
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:36 PM   #21
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Why is this directed at 'Father? It isn't like he designed the prop' rod. Give him a break.

Yes!

I did!


.......and the prop rod doubles as a 2 x 4 or a baseball bat!!!!





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Old 01-15-2009, 10:44 PM   #22
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I think it looks fine, if one will do you dont need two.
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:02 AM   #23
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Yes!

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.......and the prop rod doubles as a 2 x 4 or a baseball bat!!!!





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I hold you personally responsible for everything related to the car. Sorry.

I may not have 'designed' my children...but they've got my genes....and I have a feeling this car has quite a bit of your 'genes' in it...

(and by the way...this was clearly a nit...and I'm just giving you a little grief)
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:03 AM   #24
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I think it looks fine, if one will do you dont need two.
it wasn't looks that I was concerned about...it's adding a strut tower brace.
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:41 AM   #25
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So your first job once you get your camaro is to:

remove the strut and cut a pair of short pieces of box stock to use as props, which show up in this photo http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...ecarengine.jpg of my brother's racecar as a small blue piece in the upper right hand corner of the pic.
It's small, it's light and doesn't get in the way of your strut brace.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:49 AM   #26
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I think it looks fine, if one will do you dont need two.
Oddly, when I was a Design Release Manager, the work of going from two to one gas strut for holding the hood open was done by my group. Benchmarking showed us that several major OEMs had already gone there so we did some work to prove it worked. Now you will find most GM Cars with gas struts use only one for the hood.

It works just fine.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:32 AM   #27
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Oddly, when I was a Design Release Manager, the work of going from two to one gas strut for holding the hood open was done by my group. Benchmarking showed us that several major OEMs had already gone there so we did some work to prove it worked. Now you will find most GM Cars with gas struts use only one for the hood.

It works just fine.
The OP is not concerned with the operation of the hood, he's concerned about the aftermarket suspension upgrades that usually involve a strut tower bar...that this design would prevent from being an easy switch.
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:29 AM   #28
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Oddly, when I was a Design Release Manager, the work of going from two to one gas strut for holding the hood open was done by my group. Benchmarking showed us that several major OEMs had already gone there so we did some work to prove it worked. Now you will find most GM Cars with gas struts use only one for the hood.

It works just fine.
Hey, if it helps lower the cost of the car, lowers the weight a little, and leaves one less thing to break/wear-out, I like the idea. I think this is just one little detail your team probably addressed to keep Camaro as efficient a package as possible. With all the "concerns..." about weight and mass, it seems to me that this is just one area, among a likely many, that you guys tried to be as efficient as can be

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The OP is not concerned with the operation of the hood, he's concerned about the aftermarket suspension upgrades that usually involve a strut tower bar...that this design would prevent from being an easy switch.
Well, I guess the aftermarket is just going to work a tad bit harder. I imagine that with as good as this chassis is that a STB may do more to add weight than actually enhance handling unless this thing is an all-out road racer/auto-Xer.
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:33 AM   #29
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Yes!

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.......and the prop rod doubles as a 2 x 4 or a baseball bat!!!!





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Wouldn't be the first camaro I owned that the hood was held up with a 2x4.....
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:39 AM   #30
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Well to answer the OP original concern, go ahead and remove the OEM bracket and strut to install your bracing.

Then when you want to open the hood to do something, just "use your head" to hold the hood up!!


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Having the gas filler on the wrong side of the car don't bother anyone?

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Old 01-17-2009, 09:51 AM   #32
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Having the gas filler on the wrong side of the car don't bother anyone?

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Not really as it means I can get in and out of the gas station quicker and not have to wait in line.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:28 PM   #33
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Having the gas filler on the wrong side of the car don't bother anyone?

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Which side is the correct side, exactly? I don't ever remember seeing a written standard before.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:01 PM   #34
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Wouldn't be the first camaro I owned that the hood was held up with a 2x4.....
Yeah, seemed I was replacing them annually on my '85, or using the 2x4.
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