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View Poll Results: Which car should GM build?
GTO 17 47.22%
Trans AM / Firebird 14 38.89%
Tough call, I'm Undecided 5 13.89%
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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2010 Pontiac Firebird or GTO?

I'm actually partial to the GTO, but I really like the Trans Am / Firebird brand too. If you had to pick one, which car do you think GM should build?

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Old 07-16-2007, 10:40 PM   #2
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GTO, simply because I think after it's disasterous re-design (note: I'm not talking about power), it deserves another chance.

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the Camaro's already built (almost),so let the Firebird stay Dead. It was a nice Car, but a rip off on the Camaro; in good way

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Realistically, if GM is Really trying to achieve brand differenciation, then the Firebird cannot come back anytime soon. (or at least, it can't come back as the Camaro's twin brother...)
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:26 AM   #3
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I'd pick the Chevelle if I could. But, I'd go for the GTO over the others.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:12 AM   #4
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I vote GTO even though i own a Firebird.

I agree with goldeneye...if your gonna bring back a Firebird make it completely different than the Camaro,which the GTO is and will be.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:32 AM   #5
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I vote GTO even though i own a Firebird.

I agree with goldeneye...if your gonna bring back a Firebird make it completely different than the Camaro,which the GTO is and will be.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:03 PM   #6
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GTO

I always thought the lines of the Camaro vs the Firebird were cleaner and more muscular. IMO the Firebird had too many body moldings and knick-knacks bolted on.

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Old 07-17-2007, 12:20 PM   #7
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I have to go with GTO simply because it makes more sense in today's car market. You would have a G5, G6, G8, and a GTO. Make it a little more true to the older GTO in looks, but don't go too retro. Just make it more identifiable to the classic GTO enthusiasts. The last one was nice, but when people identify it as an oversized Cavalier, there's a styling problem. On the other side of the coin. Firebird has always been similar to yet different from the Camaro since 1967. Changing it too much would take away from what the Firebird truly is, a GM pony car with a just a little bit more muscle and luxury. Unfortunately in today's car market I think the Firebird would be a big failure unless they offered it as a higher end(meaning higher cost) muscle car over the Camaro, with all the luxury features, and a much more powerful motor. Then this would be stepping on Caddilac teritory. Firebird just isn't feasable anymore. A GTO would work out nicely if done right. Being a Trans Am owner, this saddens me a bit, but being a Pontiac enthusiast, I will be happy either way.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:21 PM   #8
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…Make it a little more true to the older GTO in looks, but don't go too retro. Just make it more identifiable to the classic GTO enthusiasts. The last one was nice, but when people identify it as an oversized Cavalier, there's a styling problem.…
I wholeheartedly agree with this - if the GTO is brought back, the design really should pay greater homage to the classic Goat. I've enjoyed my GTO, but it's been the performance and handling that got me into the car - not the styling. If it had been reintroduced in '04 with better heritage cues, I would have nearly been as excited about it as I am with the 5th gen 'Maro. As it was, it took a drive at an Autoshow in Motion to convince me that it had anything to it.

On another note, I have had people compliment me on my Cavalier, Grand Am, and even (ugh!) my mustang… If GM really goes the route of G5, G6, G8, and GTO, there has got to be a better, more recognizable design.
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Goat, for all the reasons listed above.
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Goat, for all the reasons listed above.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:23 PM   #11
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GTO, simply because I think after it's disasterous re-design (note: I'm not talking about power), it deserves another chance.

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the Camaro's already built (almost),so let the Firebird stay Dead. It was a nice Car, but a rip off on the Camaro; in good way

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Realistically, if GM is Really trying to achieve brand differenciation, then the Firebird cannot come back anytime soon. (or at least, it can't come back as the Camaro's twin brother...)

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Old 07-18-2007, 09:59 PM   #12
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Right on!
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:31 AM   #13
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I think the firebird/trans am will come back alive.. and become a production vehicle once the camaro comes out, we all will have to wait and see.
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I think the firebird/trans am will come back alive.. and become a production vehicle once the camaro comes out, we all will have to wait and see.
There have been many many reasons stated by lots of enthusiasts, and officials alike, that say that there is just no way the Firebird is coming back. It simply makes no sense.
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The sad part is, part of me really wants to see the brothers roaring down the road again. But then the Camaro (rational ) side says: "If the Firebird comes out again, then their [Firebird and Camaro] both doomed."

and it's true.

But I look at it this way, the Camaro is a big boy now, 35 years old (technically 40), it should be able to take care of itself without the Trans Am's help.
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I would like the trans am to come back cuz i always like the body style of them and the formula style of it too.
*looks around cautiously*

You do realize if it came back it would look about as much as the old ones (4th gens) as the Camaro does, right?

In other words....nothing like the old ones (4th gens).

Which is moot, because it isn't coming back.
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*looks around cautiously*

You do realize if it came back it would look about as much as the old ones (4th gens) as the Camaro does, right?

In other words....nothing like the old ones (4th gens).

Which is moot, because it isn't coming back.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:03 AM   #18
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It's sad that they are gone in the first place.:( I really like the 4th gen looks better than the 5th. But if I had to pick I think the GTO is coming back, even though I would prefer the Firebird.
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Old 07-31-2007, 04:56 PM   #19
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The sad part is, part of me really wants to see the brothers roaring down the road again. But then the Camaro (rational ) side says: "If the Firebird comes out again, then their [Firebird and Camaro] both doomed."

and it's true.

But I look at it this way, the Camaro is a big boy now, 35 years old (technically 40), it should be able to take care of itself without the Trans Am's help.
Then maybe it's time for The Trans Am to earn its own keep... ... I personally thought that (At least in the 80's, and 90's) that the Firebird/Trans Am looked better than the Camaro... Forgive me if i upset anyone...
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If they could lauch the Firebird as it's own car - then I say go for it!! Ah, but then we see the catch: it wouldn't be a firebird if it didn't look like a Camaro.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:39 PM   #21
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Personally I always loved the Trans Am,Part of me still cant believe they stopped making them.Never been a big GTO fan,so if given the choice I much rather see a new Firebird/Trans Am.
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