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Old 01-19-2009, 02:05 AM   #1
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Euro 4 or Euro 5? :)

Hi there, this is my first post and i would like to excuse my sloppy writing but i didn't have time lately to practice it
I am writing from Romania/Europe and as i saw the new Camaro will be shipped also to Europe. I am a big fan of the car since i was very little and i am looking to buy first thing it reaches europe.

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Does anybody know when it will be shipped to the rest of the world (europe, australie, etc.) and (i know this isn't a problem in the US) what is the emission standard euro because in my country the higher the CMC and the lower the emission standard(euro4-euro3 etc) the higher the first registration tax

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:40 AM   #2
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Sorry - I haven't read about this anywhere.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:05 AM   #3
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Uf
Is the current v6 motors on another GM car?
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:14 AM   #4
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Yes.

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And soon to be 2009 Holden VF Commodore and 2010 Chevrolet Camaro.

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Also, the PFI version of this engine comes in a much wider range of models. Expect emissions to be lower in the LLT (the DI version) than the LY7 (the PFI version).

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Old 01-19-2009, 08:24 AM   #6
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So far it seems that most of the 2007-2008 production models that have this type of motor have Euro 4 standards.
Euro 4 means i will have to pay 5000 euro's( aprox 6500 dolars) for the first registration tax :((
Euro 5 would only cost me 2-300 euros(500 dolars)
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:48 PM   #7
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OUCH!!! Sorry to hear about the expensive registration tax, but I am glad to hear our Euro brothers intrested and enjoying an American Icon!!!!
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:18 PM   #8
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i think the 3.6 DI is going to be on the g8 in 2010
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:53 AM   #9
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even if its euro 5 you'd still pay euro 4. happened to friend with a honda.
there is no calibrating machine in romania for euro 5. as far as i know and believe me i checked. only 3 euro 4 : daewoo, renault and voluntari rar, all for euro 4 level.
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That sucks... we don't even have emissions testing where I live...
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even if i tip the guy from RAR to give me an euro 5 pass....could that work?
If not, i'm hopping that by the beggining of 2010 things will change...just in time for the camaro here in europe
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Europe loves their small engines even if their supercharged or turbocharged vehicles put out almost or as much co2 . They should just tax your gas as expensive as it already is the more you use the more you pay. You may buy this car to take out every few weeks and the guy with a moped that puts 100 miles on it every day is putting out 20 times as much CO2 as you but he pays nothing, and the environment is not any better off for it.
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That sucks... we don't even have emissions testing where I live...
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You're lucking out...

Be happy you dont, emissions testing in WA is rediculous...
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You're lucking out...

Be happy you dont, emissions testing in WA is rediculous...
We probably will soon, but currently we don't.
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even if i tip the guy from RAR to give me an euro 5 pass....could that work?
If not, i'm hopping that by the beggining of 2010 things will change...just in time for the camaro here in europe

its not the tipping, its that they dont even care of your factory's credentials, they can't measure it, you don't get get it.
my honda guy payed 2 k Euro more at dealer for euro 5 car and ended up paying the euro 4 registration tax as well.
see top gear november , he ended in the magazine
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Europe loves their small engines even if their supercharged or turbocharged vehicles put out almost or as much co2 . They should just tax your gas as expensive as it already is the more you use the more you pay. You may buy this car to take out every few weeks and the guy with a moped that puts 100 miles on it every day is putting out 20 times as much CO2 as you but he pays nothing, and the environment is not any better off for it.
exactly.
it's the same defensive jaguar put up in england.
a 100k car owner drives 25k km a year
while a small yaris comuter having to take kids from school, mother in law from hospital , or whatever would do an average of 100 k km a year.
so it's simple math: the cheaper car with half the emissions would end up putting out twice that much co2.

plus the distances and roads in europe being what they are , I don't expect to travel more than 10000 km a year, i live less than a mile from work , my parents or most my friends.
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its not the tipping, its that they dont even care of your factory's credentials, they can't measure it, you don't get get it.
my honda guy payed 2 k Euro more at dealer for euro 5 car and ended up paying the euro 4 registration tax as well.
see top gear november , he ended in the magazine
sooo...as far as the problem goes, the only options would be...to register the car in bulgaria or to hope that they will lower the tax. Either way i don't think i can pay 8000-9000 euro's just the registration:(
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no one can, nor should.
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sooo...as far as the problem goes, the only options would be...to register the car in bulgaria or to hope that they will lower the tax. Either way i don't think i can pay 8000-9000 euro's just the registration:(
You could always move to America. I'm looking at just under 1,500 for tax, tag, and registration all combined.
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You could always move to America. I'm looking at just under 1,500 for tax, tag, and registration all combined.
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Believe me...i am thinking very seriously about it
Probably in a couple of years.
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