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Old 12-12-2010, 02:26 PM   #1
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Opinion about radar detectors?

I am on the fence about purchasing a radar detector. I don't drive fast all the time but I can't help that I exceed the limit on occassion.

Does anyone own an Escort Passport 9500ix? I would be interested in your opinion.

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Old 12-12-2010, 02:28 PM   #2
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I haven't had one in years, dying technology I think, all they do now is tell you that you are busted...
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Old 12-12-2010, 02:38 PM   #3
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I have the 9500ix, I think it's paid for itself-it has red light camera warning, gps laser detectors,etc..the database is updated pretty frequently so you're aware of any speed traps, new red light cameras, etc. I had mine installed at Best Buy, and they did an excellent job mounting it so ther aren't any wires dangling around..
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Laser is used by most LEO's now. If your detector pings after being painted with LIDAR, it's warning you to pull over.
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Don't waste your money if you think it will help you with laser. That's my opinion.
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From a cop in FL...I actually don't discourage it at all. However, take this information for what it is worth, most cops who normally would not issue citations for speeding will in fact issue one if they see a detector. The general thought process is, if a guy is going to speed with the detector going off..what does he do when there is no indication of a cop or red light camera around? (I am building my career to work with K9 units...so I am essentially not required to do any traffic). I would say about 9 out of 10 cops would. I completely feel you with on how this car feels so much smoother than any car I have previously owned and often catch myself doing 5-10 over accidently.

With that said, the cost of a radar detector generally equals the cost of almost 3 speeding tickets in FL. (Unless you get tapped for a 30 over). Keep that in mind if you say you don't speed very much...but again, It is hard not to often look down and see im doing 60 in a 55...

Some troopers run radar and LEAVE it running all day. Those are where the radar detector comes into play and will help you. I do not run mine all day. I only activate my radar or laser until I actually VISUALLY estimate you speeding. At that point...it is too late
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Old 12-12-2010, 02:54 PM   #7
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Very little Laser in Michigan. The Sheriffs and Troops here use radar and usually leave them on. I don't speed much and use my V1 as a subtle reminder to take it easy!
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I haven't had one in years, dying technology I think, all they do now is tell you that you are busted...
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Don't waste your money if you think it will help you with laser. That's my opinion.
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From a cop in FL...I actually don't discourage it at all. However, take this information for what it is worth, most cops who normally would not issue citations for speeding will in fact issue one if they see a detector. The general thought process is, if a guy is going to speed with the detector going off..what does he do when there is no indication of a cop or red light camera around? (I am building my career to work with K9 units...so I am essentially not required to do any traffic). I would say about 9 out of 10 cops would. I completely feel you with on how this car feels so much smoother than any car I have previously owned and often catch myself doing 5-10 over accidently.

With that said, the cost of a radar detector generally equals the cost of almost 3 speeding tickets in FL. (Unless you get tapped for a 30 over). Keep that in mind if you say you don't speed very much...but again, It is hard not to often look down and see im doing 60 in a 55...

Some troopers run radar and LEAVE it running all day. Those are where the radar detector comes into play and will help you. I do not run mine all day. I only activate my radar or laser until I actually VISUALLY estimate you speeding. At that point...it is too late
I typically drive the speed limit... wife actually teases me about driving like an old fart.... (i get my speeding out of my system at the track!). That being said I own/use a radar detector, for the rare occasion where I might be traveling above he posted speed limit... my observation is the local LEO leave there radar on all the time... The only time I see any LEOs using laser is on the freeway and that is very rare...
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Very little Laser in Michigan. The Sheriffs and Troops here use radar and usually leave them on. I don't speed much and use my V1 as a subtle reminder to take it easy!
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I typically drive the speed limit... wife actually teases me about driving like an old fart.... (i get my speeding out of my system at the track!). That being said I own/use a radar detector, for the rare occasion where I might be traveling above he posted speed limit... my observation is the local LEO leave there radar on all the time... The only time I see any LEOs using laser is on the freeway and that is very rare...

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Old 12-12-2010, 03:21 PM   #12
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...oh, and I give this thread 15 minutes before it goes bad
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:22 PM   #13
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I have one and it won't always warn you when a cop is around you unless the cop turns it "Speed tracker" on (I think that's what it is) but overall when a cop has one it goes off, I think it's worth it.
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:23 PM   #14
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I posted a similar topic in the off topic section and got no reply, so I will post here and see if i can get some answers....
Now this is something I havent kept up on. But I have previously used a valentine 1 and was impressed. But I hoping for some real world info on my next purchase. I got a decent 1000 mile trip to make and am in the market for what works and works good.
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The LEOs using Laser are usually very visible out on the freeway...

As Wolverine1 pointed out.... most LEOs just leave their radar on all the time...
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:24 PM   #16
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Mine has saved me more times than I can count. Worth every penny spent on it. Also get the updates it is worth it since every city is going to red light cameras and you will want the updates.
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:43 PM   #18
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Like most here I find that I will drift over the limit every once in a while. I find that on the back roads in the small towns is where I need it the most. Limits going from 45 down to 25 will have the locals camping out just waiting for people unfamiliar with the area. This is the main reason I have the passport in my car ! Any ticket in Ma. results in a huge surcharge on insurance that keeps on taking !
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Old 12-12-2010, 04:33 PM   #19
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The LEOs using Laser are usually very visible out on the freeway...

As Wolverine1 pointed out.... most LEOs just leave their radar on all the time...
You mean what I initially said lol..You guys are lucky then. Troopers here..it seems like they set up sniper cots 30 feet up in the trees...wear camo and pick off speeders. and then proceed to relay that info to 3 or 4 troopers down the road....

I have actually gotten tagged from troopers who parked in a lot, blended in with other cars, and hit me from about half a mile away with a laser...he was already pulling out side by side with me at the red light. I was just SOL either way there...
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Old 12-12-2010, 04:42 PM   #20
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I have a 9500xi... its worth it. It does a great job of detecting early and long distance. I love the way it stores false readings if you encounter them 3 times, no annoying buzzing for no reason.

That being said, your pretty much screwed anyway if they LIDAR you
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It's you money and you can do what ever you want with it. I see the highway patrol using LIDAR here in Northern California on a daily basis and can't remember the last time I say a LEO holding a non-laser gun. I'm sure that the in-car radar unit is still non-laser and the detectors will probably work if the cop leaves it on all of the time. California is in big financial trouble and the LEO is very hungry around here, my guess on why CHP hasn't had to lay any officers off is because of all the increased revenue that has come in this last year. I bet that if you could find the citation revenue and compared it to that of three years ago that it would at least have doubled. The best defense against tickets is to use your power and speed at the very few tracks that are still open. It is very hard to contain the stock power these cars put out, I saw that today when I let a friend drive my car and he was having a hard time trying to maintain the speed limit.
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I am driving from florida to texas... If that helps any
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It's you money and you can do what ever you want with it. I see the highway patrol using LIDAR here in Northern California on a daily basis and can't remember the last time I say a LEO holding a non-laser gun. I'm sure that the in-car radar unit is still non-laser and the detectors will probably work if the cop leaves it on all of the time. California is in big financial trouble and the LEO is very hungry around here, my guess on why CHP hasn't had to lay any officers off is because of all the increased revenue that has come in this last year. I bet that if you could find the citation revenue and compared it to that of three years ago that it would at least have doubled. The best defense against tickets is to use your power and speed at the very few tracks that are still open. It is very hard to contain the stock power these cars put out, I saw that today when I let a friend drive my car and he was having a hard time trying to maintain the speed limit.
Actually, believe it not most departments only receive 2-3% of the fee assessed on citations. Most of it goes across the state to education, roadways, and other government entities...go figure. I can tell you honestly without bias, there is not enough income generated from tickets to employ officers. Maybe purchase new equipment, but not personnel...

THE REAL money is in the red light cameras. Now THOSE are a scam. Last I checked (in Florida) the court of appeals advised state statute could not be used only city ordinances. Which means the PD gets 50% of the fine...

What you guys haven't seen yet and they are training some of us on, is these red light cameras are receiving software upgrades and now have speed monitoring devices which apparently do not use radar (Some do, some don't). Instead they use distance markers on the roadways and calculate the amount of time it takes you to travel that distance to give a speed...so detectors won't work unless it has the software updates that know where any given camera is located. However, it is just a matter of time before they are at EVERY single intersection, EVERY stretch of highway. Just wait...even as a cop...I'll admit it is about to get bad....California, I am sure your highways will get to taste them first.
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They are all over here in korea, and all the gps road map things tell you were they are hell they have signs to tell you thay are coming up if you pay attention.
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I use my Whistler 555 or my Passport 8500, depending on my mood because my Whistler has a red text display and my 8500 has a blue text display. BOTH are exceptional in detecting EVERYTHING, even LIDAR and BOTH are INVISIBLE to radar detector detectors.

I also use my GPS. It is loaded with locations for speed cameras, red light cameras, and speed traps from www.PhantomAlert.com. I have the distance set at 2500 feet to warn me to slow down. This also happens to be the maximum effective range of the LIDAR guns. This distance can be adjusted to your own liking.

On a special note, the "passive" Radar/Lazer Jammers/Scramblers sold at Rocky Mountain Radar DO NOT work. This has been proven on more than one occasion through law enforcement, Mythbusters, and RadarBusters.com. In fact, RadarBusters.com offers a $50,000 award to ANY manufacturer who proves their "passive scramblers/jammers" work. NONE have stepped up to the plate.
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