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Old 12-13-2010, 11:37 PM   #1
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Phils get Cliff Lee........again!

This is just crazy stupid! They have the best rotation in baseball. Probably ever.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:11 AM   #2
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I thought the Giants had that? I don't follow baseball, but everyoe was saying it's because they have a great pitching staff that they have so many 1-0 games and win with pitching/defense.

Congrats to the phillies for that. Maybe they'll be able to win this year.
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dont matter the yanks will just have to beat them in the ws
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:04 AM   #4
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dont matter the yanks will just have to beat them in the ws
yanks couldn't buy lee because he doesn't want to play in ny!..ya know it isn't ALL about the money with everyone!..guy lives in arkansas,and maybe he don't want to play in a f**kin' "'toilet!"..any way, could be philly,and beantown this year in the big show!
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:44 AM   #5
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dont matter the yanks will just have to beat them in the ws
Good luck with that. The Yanks are pretty good at some things - like spitting on Mrs. Lee and driving Cliff away, maybe - but you've got to hustle if you're going to find a hand that can beat four Aces.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:03 AM   #7
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Enjoy Lee as we enjoied him for the year he was here.


As for best rotation ever.........

IF the Phillies can hold this rotation together for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time like the braves did back in the early 90's on then they can have that title as well.


im no braves Fan but come on Maddux , Glavine , Smoltz ............

night after night it was
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as long as everyone knows Cliff didn't take less money here, the discussion can continue.
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yanks couldn't buy lee because he doesn't want to play in ny!..ya know it isn't ALL about the money with everyone!..guy lives in arkansas,and maybe he don't want to play in a f**kin' "'toilet!"..any way, could be philly,and beantown this year in the big show!
obviously never been to the heart of Philly
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obviously never been to the heart of Philly
Philly is a tough town, ask Santa.
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im no braves Fan but come on Maddux , Glavine , Smoltz ............

night after night it was
Don't forget Avery in his prime in that rotation as well. Problem is with the mighty rotations is that Atlanta only has ONE title to show for all those post season appearances. Which proves that some days, good hitting CAN beat good pitching.

Philly might be on a good roll for now, but eventually they ALL fall down. SF proved to Philly last year that it wouldn't have mattered if they had Lee. He went 0-2 in the world series against the Giants, which means as great as he normally is, he CAN get killed by a rag-tag lineup.
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Don't forget Avery in his prime in that rotation as well. Problem is with the mighty rotations is that Atlanta only has ONE title to show for all those post season appearances. Which proves that some days, good hitting CAN beat good pitching.
Philly might be on a good roll for now, but eventually they ALL fall down. SF proved to Philly last year that it wouldn't have mattered if they had Lee. He went 0-2 in the world series against the Giants, which means as great as he normally is, he CAN get killed by a rag-tag lineup.
Exactly!!!! ask Tino Martinez & the Yankees
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:55 AM   #15
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Philly might be on a good roll for now, but eventually they ALL fall down. SF proved to Philly last year that it wouldn't have mattered if they had Lee. He went 0-2 in the world series against the Giants, which means as great as he normally is, he CAN get killed by a rag-tag lineup.
That's easy to say but pretty hard to prove one way or another. The Phillies' NLCS loss always had MUCH more to do with their hot bats peaking and cooling off prior to the postseason than it had to do with the quality of our pitching. Everything else being equal (which it never is but you get the idea), if we'd been able to turn a couple more runs in a couple more games the result could have been very different. Add another ace to the mix or have the more talented Lee in place of Oswalt like they tried to do midseason, and that also could have tipped the scales our way.

It's all moot because the way all the variables lined up SF got the wins, but if this Phillies team with this rotation isn't guaranteed invincible, then neither are the Giants or Yankees or anyone else. No matter how you look at it the Phils have a ton of talent and this adds at least a distant possibility of having such talent that the bullpen can sleep through every game - it doesn't matter who you are, that's something every team would like to have.
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Philly is a tough town, ask Santa.
Sure, bring something up that happened in the seventies. Keep in mind Cliff Lee WANTED to come to Philly. Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt WANTED to come to Philly. It is a very passionate sports town. The fans DO let the players know how they feel and when they feel let down or disappointed. (hence when Mike Schmidt had to go to games in disguises)
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Sure, bring something up that happened in the seventies. Keep in mind Cliff Lee WANTED to come to Philly. Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt WANTED to come to Philly. It is a very passionate sports town. The fans DO let the players know how they feel and when they feel let down or disappointed. (hence when Mike Schmidt had to go to games in disguises)
The seventies! Man Ask the lil girl that got vomitted on if philly is an easy going town!
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How about the fact that Yankee fans threw beers and other things at Cliff Lee's wife?? It happens in all passionate sports towns, Philly, Boston, NYC, LA, Chicago. Its just somehow the stigma stuck on Philly even though it happens in every town. Hell if LA wins a championship in any sport they riot in the damn town.
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