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Old 12-27-2010, 06:43 AM   #26
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$315 isn't bad at all. No Halos correct? I'm sure you can get the $150 back if you sell them. What size HID bulb did you go with? Thanks for all the pics and info.
I'll give Flashtech a few days to get back to me. If they don't it will help me make up my mind about theirs lol.
Now we have to get you some hids in them fogs haha.
That price is with no Halos. Even if you wanted the small Halos they were only $25 from TRS.

Good question about the bulbs. I'm actually not sure which ones they are. I just ordered the Morimoto projectors with 5000k lights. I'm sure they are single element bulbs because you can hear the shield go up an down for the high beams. I'll have to ask Nate that question. Even if you have to order new bulbs they are only $35 (which was included in my price).

For the fogs....mine are 6000k HID bulbs. They even have a mini ballast I had to wire in. If you look closely at one of the pics that I posted with them on you can barely see the fog is slightly more blue than the headlight. I even have Fieldgoal00's harness to make them auto come on with the headlights. I'm going to have to see how they look. On the lift they seem to be close enough in color I'll probably leave them but if I get it on the road and I can really see the differnce those fogs might be coming off and being switched out with different ones.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:36 AM   #27
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Nice. I run hid fogs. Have the ballasts and all. I'm running a 25wat setup for the fogs. Yeah it's rough matching up the color 100%. If you get bulbs from 2 different people the odds are the color will be off.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:17 PM   #28
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Here is the finished Housing and what I used:
-Morimoto Mini H1 projector
-GTI-R shrouds
-Morimoto 5000k bulbs

Thanks for all the info. I'm trying to navigate around the retrofitsource site to see what all is needed. As I understand it, in addition to whats listed above, you also needed a relay harness and ballasts, right? Anything else (other than the light housings)?

Which ballasts and relay harness did you select?


Too many options means too many decisions...
Someone should sell these as a kit, with detailed installation instructions (for people like me)


btw, where did you mount the ballasts?
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:50 PM   #29
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First thing I would say is call or email Nate@theretrofitsouce.com and he'll help you with everything you need. Matt and Nate were extremely helpful, answered the phone everytime (during business hours), and really took the time to talk out all my concerns.

One of the reasons I wanted him to take pics of the different shrouds is so that others could look at them and decide which one to buy.

Here is what I was quoted for parts from TRS:
Morimoto Mini Bi-xenon projectors (H1)
Morimoto 3Five Digital ballasts w/ brackets
Morimoto 3Five 4300K/5000K/6000K H1 bulbs
Your choice of shrouds/bezels
H13/9008 Bi-xenon relay wire harness
$300 shipped UPS with tracking and insurance

As for mounting the ballasts....the driver's side one I used a small self-tapping screw and mounted it to the radiator support. Because of my CAI I couldn't really find a good place to zip tie it to. On the passenger side I zip tied it to some of the wire looms on that side.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:55 PM   #30
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I don't have a pic of the ballast on the driver side but I'll get you one by the weekend if you still need it. The car isn't at my house right now.

Here is a pic of the passenger side. Again, just zip tied to some wiring loom.

On the driver side it's just in front of my CAI, mounted with a single screw just under the lip that has the rubber to seal the hood.

You can follow this thread I did to install the AAC lights. Installing the relay, power, and negative is all the same. Actually the TRS relay is exactly the same as the one AAC uses.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69917

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Old 12-28-2010, 03:51 PM   #31
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Hey, thanks for all the info... I'm seriously considering these. I currently have the AAC 'HOD' Xenon bulbs which are an improvement over the lame halogens, but these seem like a couple steps up. I also don't really care about the halos...

Don't worry about the additional pics, I think I have what I needed.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:06 PM   #32
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No problem.

Even the AAC HID kit is not to bad but these are going to out perform those by a long shot. I occasionally get the on coming people to flash their brights at me (of course I then flash my brights back). Going with these projectors should fix all that. It puts nice clean cut-off line that dips down for on coming traffic.

If you don't plan on doing another retrofit or if you don't want to mess with opening up your headlights then I would tell you to spend the $150 and let TRS do the lights for you. It's worth letting someone that knows what they are doing setup the lights and make sure it's all aligned correctly. Although you can DIY fairly easy. Nate or Matt can walk you through any questions if you DIY.

Parts and labor will cost you $450 plus about $10 shipping. You just need to supply the headlight housing. They did a great job of adjusting and re-sealing the lights. I should've taken some pics of the lights once I got them but I was too anxious to get them on. If you end up shipping some just make sure the packing is done right so you get them damaged like what happened to my first set.

Call Nate and tell him you saw the ones he just did and want some similar to it. He'll tell you what you need to do.

Stay tuned and I'll have more pics and hopefully some video by this weekend.
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:25 PM   #33
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I'll shoot him an email this week. As I said I have the hid parts now so I don't need them. I guess it also comes down to how much I could find the housings for. I can't send mine out because my car is my DD.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:33 PM   #34
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Got my brakes done tonight (another awesome mod) which means I was able to get the car off the lift. Great night for working tonight since it was an unseaonably 72 degrees today.

A quick adjustment to level out the passenger side light with the driver side and it is awesome. They look great and the cut-off line is nice and crisp. LOVE IT! I got exactly what I wanted...projector HID with the chrome look of the Halogen housing. The 5000k bulbs are a perfect color for me.

Only bad thing is it looks like i might have to buy a different set of fog lights now. They are a little too blue for the 5000k headlights.

I took some video as well but it will be tomorrow before I can get that edited and posted.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:02 PM   #35
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Here is a comparison of the factory Halogen, then AAC's HID kit with 8000k bulbs, then the retrofit with 5000k bulbs. You can see how much better the lighting is and how much wider of a throw the projectors give off.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:20 PM   #36
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Looks real nice, good to see your all done.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:42 PM   #37
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I adjusted the passenger side down some to get a straight line.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:00 AM   #38
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Cut off looks great. Real nice job .
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:31 PM   #39
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Just took a look at the video I have. Can't really see much because the camera didn't really pick up on the blusish/purple look you get from the projectors. You can see how wide the throw is going down the road but you can see that in the picture I posted as well.

Sucky thing is that is did show me how much of a difference you can see in the 5000k lights and the 6000k fogs. Guess I'm going to have to pull off Fieldgoal00's harness until I can figure out something else for my foglights.
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Washed the car yesterday before it starts getting cold around here. I also took out the 6k fog lights and went back to my AAC 5202 bulbs. Still not a match but not that far away either.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:36 AM   #41
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That looks really cool, first I thought it would be cool to get a HID kit and I read through all your posts on that. Then I found this stuff about projector retrofits--something I had never heard of. Anyway, a few hours later and now I know what I'm saving up for haha. Cool car man.
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This is my roomates thread. He does retrofits. He is doing my C5 next week hopefully. I got some bigger halos then he has. His are 100mm and I got 120mm.
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That looks really cool, first I thought it would be cool to get a HID kit and I read through all your posts on that. Then I found this stuff about projector retrofits--something I had never heard of. Anyway, a few hours later and now I know what I'm saving up for haha. Cool car man.
No problem....I didn't know anything about retrofits about 2 mths ago either.

Either the HID kit or the retrofit is going to be much better than the Halogen lights but as you can see in my comparison pics the retrofit has an awesome light output and throw. It doesn't cost that much more than just the HID kit either.

Now I'm waiting on a solution to get rid of the DRL which should be coming soon I hope.....that's a hint for someone that's watching this thread.

If you have any questions ask here or PM me. I've got some leads on people that can do the actual retrofit. Removing the bumper and installing the headlights is easy and you can do yourself. Worst case I'm only about 3 hrs away from Norman and I have access to a lift and tools and I would be willing to help for free.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:33 AM   #44
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This is an awesome thread!! I also have a non rs 2lt and was thinking of getting angel eyes but I think I'm gonna go for the retrofit instead. The different types of shrouds really look nice. I do have have a question though. Where did you get the aftermarket headlights from?
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This is an awesome thread!! I also have a non rs 2lt and was thinking of getting angel eyes but I think I'm gonna go for the retrofit instead. The different types of shrouds really look nice. I do have have a question though. Where did you get the aftermarket headlights from?
I got it off eBay from a seller called xtremelights2003

They are made by TYC. One thing to note. He can not bill to you at one address and then ship to another. That means that in my case I had to have TRS buy it so it could be shipped to them. I just email them and worked it out where I paid TRS first and then they turned around and ordered the light.

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BTW: you can still do angel eyes with the retrofit. It's just all in how you want it to look.
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We had a small Camaro5 meet up last night. I had a couple of RS cars line up against a wall with me so I could compare the Morimoto to the OEM HID.

The cut-off line on the Morimoto is definately more crisp. I never noticed the drop down in the OEM HID until we lined up. Then we were able to see it. The drop down on the Morimotos is obvious.

Did I mention how much I love these retrofits.....
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Thanks for all the info and research Caverman, its been much helpful. Im going to shoot these guys a email and see what we can come up with. Also did you do anything special with your stock fogs?
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Thanks for all the info and research Caverman, its been much helpful. Im going to shoot these guys a email and see what we can come up with. Also did you do anything special with your stock fogs?
Thanks.....these lights are working out awesome. Love 'em.

Yes, I changed my fog lights...but I'm not completely happy with them yet. I've ended up with the AAC LED (5202) bulbs in there right now. They are the closest thing in color to 5000k bulbs but are not a match. No one seems to make an LED bulbs in a 5000k color. They are usually the 4300K or 6000k colors.

Now there was someone else that added the 5000k HID fog lights from V-LEDS that looks pretty good. They have little mini ballasts and he says they haven't melted his fog light housing or cover. I just haven't gotten around to finish off the just fogs yet.

I had Fieldgoal00's harness that turns on the fogs at the same time as the headlights but eventually found out it isn't going to work on a non-RS car. We did a bunch of testing and it looks like the non-RS is going to need a completely different type of plug. The guy that built them is supposed to be working on one for us. If that ever works out then I'll probably focus on my fogs more.

Do know that the Fog Lights will be for looks only. The HID lights are bright enough that you can't tell when the fogs are on or off.
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Awesome, glad to hear they are working out. I tried Nate's email you posted but it came back invalid?
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Awesome, glad to hear they are working out. I tried Nate's email you posted but it came back invalid?
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If that doesn't work then just call them. www.theretrofitsource.com
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