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Old 12-22-2010, 03:46 AM   #1
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KB 2.8LC (black/polished) from Santa aka TPE

Thanks to Jeff at Total Performance Engineering, I got a black/polished KB 2.8LC before Christmas. After months of going back and forth between Procharger & Vortech, with considerations for Whipple and KB, I ended up with the twin-screw. After very good conversations with many vendors and finally with Jeff, he twisted my arm.

I upgraded from a standard black to a black/polished KB LC combo. Because my wife was in a good mood, I went with the Dewitts radiator and Elite catch can to top off my TPE package. As I unpacked the KB boxes, I asked her, what do you think? She said, at least it's not more black boxes with knobs and lights in the entertainment room. It's black boxes with shiny metal under the hood where no one can see it...

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Old 12-22-2010, 06:58 AM   #2
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Old 12-22-2010, 07:16 AM   #3
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looks good, you may want to check your pulley size...mine came with the 4 1/8 and rubbed my hood insulation. i just recd a 3 3/4 , as i am going to squeeze more hp,, hoping to keep it about 10 boost..i ran 7-8 boost with custom tune on stock pulley with stock exhaust..now going lts..you will be happy.. btw, thanks jeff, rcd pulley yesterday..
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:07 AM   #4
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:24 AM   #5
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somebody must have been a good boy for santa to come early with a KB, it looks real good man, can't wait to see it installed and see some numbers.

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Old 12-22-2010, 12:47 PM   #6
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looks good, you may want to check your pulley size...mine came with the 4 1/8 and rubbed my hood insulation. i just recd a 3 3/4 , as i am going to squeeze more hp,, hoping to keep it about 10 boost..i ran 7-8 boost with custom tune on stock pulley with stock exhaust..now going lts..you will be happy.. btw, thanks jeff, rcd pulley yesterday..
How much of the 4-1/8" pulley rubbed the insulation? I prefer no rubbing if possible. I'm not looking for more than +8 boost. I don't want to run meth and we have inconsistent 92 gas. With my headers, shouldn't it drop ~1-2 PSI?

Can't wait to install it... but it looks like next week is the earliest.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:32 PM   #7
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The rubbing only happened on a few of the earlier Auto cars. KB accidently sent 4 1/8" pulleys, instead of 4". To my knowledge, everyone who had an incorrect pulley, has gotten a new one at no charge.

You dont have a 4 1/8" pulley.



Lookin Goooooood Lionel.

BTW, Are you saying Im a fat, old, white man?? Damn Man, and here I thought it was only my mirror that was screwing with me.

Members, this was over 8 months worth of reseasrch for Lionel. We went from Vortech, to Procharger, to Whipple, to KB, and back again. We have spent many many many days on the phone with each other. We were actually ordering him a Procharger. But after a few dozen more questions, Lionel decided that the KB was best suited for him. We wanted to make sure that no matter what he got, it was best for him, and his driving style.

This is the first Signature TPE Black/Polished 2.8LC on the planet. This is only the beginning of the build. Im sure, knowing Lionels need for speed, we'll be stuffing a new 416" stroker in that baby quicker than you can imagine.

So Lionel, let me know when Im grabbing a flight to Hawaii, to install this bad boy..
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:42 PM   #8
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:41 PM   #9
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Ive got rubbing on my car and its a m6 and yes I ended up with a 4-1/8th pulley..however I didnt know I could get it replaced for free, if I had known that I wouldnt have paid the 70bucks for a new one lol
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:53 PM   #10
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I like the black/polished combo!
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:20 PM   #11
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I stick by my statement, it's good enough for me. Id like to make the internals and drivetrain bullet proof just to have it that way, but I'll wait until something breaks. Since it's a semi daily driver, I do not want a cage and push more power than I will use.

I remember my first hand me down car was a 73 dart, 318 2 barrel, that I broke the diff within a year. I still have some of my dad's hot rod and motor trend mags from the 60s and wish I had those cars in high school. This is my modern take of the car I wanted in high school.

Again I'd like to thank Jeff and all the vendors that are/were very patient with me. Learning curve again after years of driving reliable domestic cars. No more timing lights, weights, jets, etc anymore.

Will post installed pics later.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:34 PM   #12
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So Lionel, let me know when Im grabbing a flight to Hawaii, to install this bad boy..
I got a Monday to Wednesday window to install. I jokingly told my wife I'd skip her families x-mas dinner to work on the car. She smirked and walked away.

I'm leary about dex cool but will end up getting a couple gallons 50/50 mix today.
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yeah jeff, no one told me it would be replced for free...oh well.. i did get my new one from you...haven,t seen ny bill.. but if its to much i,ll bitch after the holidays..lol...btw, it rubbed about 2 inces long and 18th inch wide, just at the edge of the inlaid bowtie...approx size of a large toothpick...
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:58 PM   #14
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I assumed you had already had that taken care of directly from KB. You would not have gotten the one that you bought though. You would have gotten the 4" instead, and sent the old one back. So in your case, where you went with an even smaller pulley, you would have had to pay for it anyways.
Let me know when you get it back from the dyno. I'd like to see what it made.

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yeah jeff, no one told me it would be replced for free...oh well.. i did get my new one from you...haven,t seen ny bill.. but if its to much i,ll bitch after the holidays..lol...btw, it rubbed about 2 inces long and 18th inch wide, just at the edge of the inlaid bowtie...approx size of a large toothpick...
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3 days?? Hell, thats a walk in the park. You've got a day to spare.

Note, dont EVER cancel a holiday dinner for your car. Short of cheating, that is t he quickest way to end up sleeping on the couch.

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I got a Monday to Wednesday window to install. I jokingly told my wife I'd skip her families x-mas dinner to work on the car. She smirked and walked away.

I'm leary about dex cool but will end up getting a couple gallons 50/50 mix today.
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I assumed you had already had that taken care of directly from KB. You would not have gotten the one that you bought though. You would have gotten the 4" instead, and sent the old one back. So in your case, where you went with an even smaller pulley, you would have had to pay for it anyways.
Let me know when you get it back from the dyno. I'd like to see what it made.
sure will, mike is coming to florida 1/14..it will be in shop for 3-4 days gettin pulley ,lts,line lock and gto clutch reservoir and doing a small video with it @ the perf shop...hey jeff , been looking for a cj5 and saw one in vegas for sale, i believe its black with flames and a blower...seen it around? anything you can tell me?
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:01 AM   #18
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Damn, i wish the SANTA you got would have stopped at my house...
Congrats!

so when is the install-tune-dyno set for?

we would love to see some video of that bad boy!
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Hey Mike! I just became a member and noticed you're pretty close to me ( Hobe Sound ).
My KB 2.8 LC should be getting installed in about a week. Would like to connect with you sometime
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Hey Mike! I just became a member and noticed you're pretty close to me ( Hobe Sound ).
My KB 2.8 LC should be getting installed in about a week. Would like to connect with you sometime [/QUOTE]

sounds good...last friday of every month we get together @stuart ale house...where you getting work and tune
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YOU MUST HAVE BEEN A GOOD BOY LOL!! Looks awesome
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Hey Dude,
I am going by what I was told. I dont want to say as a "Fact" that they are doing it at no charge, until I personally know. But I could have sworn that they were doing that.

Regardless, let me know if your want a 4" pulley. I will get one to you at no charge. Just send me a quick pic of the pulley, with a tape measurer across it, so I can verify, and I will be more than happy to help you out.
If KB doesnt reimburse me, well, Im not worried about it.

I have a call in to KB now, to find out what the deal is. I will report to you as soon as I know.
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hehe, im not worried about the 4in, I will be running a 3.75 from now on
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hehe, im not worried about the 4in, I will be running a 3.75 from now on
just getting ready to put on 3 3/4...what other mods you got and what kind of #,s are you still on bap or did you go dual fuel pump..i hear 650 would be pushing stock with bap..
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