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Old 12-25-2010, 09:56 PM   #1
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Injen Power Flow Short Ram or AEM Cold Air Intake?

I'm looking into getting a cold air intake but I'm stuck between these two. I can't decide if I want to go with the AEM true CAI or the Injen Power Flow Short Ram CAI. I'm looking into the performance aspect mostly but I also want to keep it street and emissions legal. I live in CA.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:50 AM   #2
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I think that the short arm didnt do well on dyno as the true Injen intake.

Havent heard yet about the AEM on V6 but with V8 it was good.
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yeah i think that scrming did a whole study on all the CAI's i wanna say that the true injen CAI dyno'd something around an 18 hp gain if my memory serves me correctly.
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I don't think Scrming did tests on ALL the intakes... I think he got to experiment with a few. Janetty Racing did a good number of tests, dynos on most intakes out to date. No news on the AEM one for V6 though.

And Red, the Injen CAI gains like 5rwhp ish. "16hp" is stated on the box though.
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I'm looking into getting a cold air intake but I'm stuck between these two. I can't decide if I want to go with the AEM true CAI or the Injen Power Flow Short Ram CAI. I'm looking into the performance aspect mostly but I also want to keep it street and emissions legal. I live in CA.
Is there a reason you want the Short Ram intake for Injen but a CAI for the AEM? Why not just get the Injen CAI? =o So far, the Injen CAI has been the most powerful, but I think tied with Cold air Inductions CAI.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:14 PM   #6
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Is there a reason you want the Short Ram intake for Injen but a CAI for the AEM? Why not just get the Injen CAI? =o So far, the Injen CAI has been the most powerful, but I think tied with Cold air Inductions CAI.
I was just curious to hear others' opinions on the two different styles. And the true cold air intake being closer to the ground scares me considering the rain (then again I understand it would take a considerable amount of water to cause problems).
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:18 PM   #7
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I personally have the Injen Short Ram and love it. I've seen a noticeable difference when driving the car. Gas mileage is slightly better as well. Personally the only reason I would go for AEM CAI would be because the styling of the air filter box looks a bit better.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:43 AM   #8
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Pretty sure test results on the Injen CAI showed 17HP avg gain at the wheel. The Injen short ram was closer to 10-12 at the wheel but all of that was over 4K RPM. I haven't seen dyno results on the AEM but I'd like to.

Okay, found it. Here are the numbers on the AEM. Looks good. Personally, I'm too nervous about rolling through standing water to buy one of the true CAIs. That would make for a very bad day.

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Pretty sure test results on the Injen CAI showed 17HP avg gain at the wheel. The Injen short ram was closer to 10-12 at the wheel but all of that was over 4K RPM. I haven't seen dyno results on the AEM but I'd like to.

Okay, found it. Here are the numbers on the AEM. Looks good. Personally, I'm too nervous about rolling through standing water to buy one of the true CAIs. That would make for a very bad day.
Me too John!!

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I just got my AEM intake in. I will let you know when I install it and dyno it.
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Pretty sure test results on the Injen CAI showed 17HP avg gain at the wheel. The Injen short ram was closer to 10-12 at the wheel but all of that was over 4K RPM. I haven't seen dyno results on the AEM but I'd like to.

Okay, found it. Here are the numbers on the AEM. Looks good. Personally, I'm too nervous about rolling through standing water to buy one of the true CAIs. That would make for a very bad day.
yeah been there and done that, not with my camaro but the car that i had before. That day felt like the worst day in my life seeing my car on the wrecker with a whole in the block.
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I was just curious to hear others' opinions on the two different styles. And the true cold air intake being closer to the ground scares me considering the rain (then again I understand it would take a considerable amount of water to cause problems).
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Pretty sure test results on the Injen CAI showed 17HP avg gain at the wheel. The Injen short ram was closer to 10-12 at the wheel but all of that was over 4K RPM. I haven't seen dyno results on the AEM but I'd like to.

Okay, found it. Here are the numbers on the AEM. Looks good. Personally, I'm too nervous about rolling through standing water to buy one of the true CAIs. That would make for a very bad day.
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yeah been there and done that, not with my camaro but the car that i had before. That day felt like the worst day in my life seeing my car on the wrecker with a whole in the block.

You'd have to drive through 22" of standing water, completely submerging the filter, to worry about hydrolock with the long tube Injen. No offense, but you'd either have to be a complete idiot, or suffer an act of God, in order to do that. In daily driving, even in rain, you are fine with the Injen, and for added safety, the hydrosock works flawlessly.

As to a short version being safer, the one and only time any of my motors ingested water was through an AirRaid in my slightly lifted 04 Silverado. Of course, the motor was completely submerged in the hole I was in, thus covering the filter.

It can happen, and chances are probably close to the same, for both types of intakes. One just has to be ignorant one time, drive into something they shouldn't and then cause an issue.
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:56 AM   #13
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i did the long tube injen and love the power ,sound of it!!! have a rain sheild but have not used it but keep it in the glove box for a cloud burst highly doubtful i will even need it then as it is tucked up and protected very good. search jannetty racing they did V6 CAI testing on 4 brands,good guys to work with. long tube will take longest to install not brain surgury though. about hour and half maybe. did i mention i luv the sound of mine lol!!!
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Injen long tube. Great instructions for the install. Great HP gains.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:11 PM   #15
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Thank you all for your input... I'm liking the long tube Injen CAI and am probably going with that. My only other question is will it pass a smog down the road? Keep in mind... CA.
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Thank you all for your input... I'm liking the long tube Injen CAI and am probably going with that. My only other question is will it pass a smog down the road? Keep in mind... CA.
None are smog legal here yet. None have the carbon trap in the lid as the stock one does. Juts take it off when you go for smog in 5-6 years
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You'd have to drive through 22" of standing water, completely submerging the filter, to worry about hydrolock with the long tube Injen. No offense, but you'd either have to be a complete idiot, or suffer an act of God, in order to do that.
Well, I'm here in SoCal where we get about 10" of rain a year. But like I said in another thread, I have a friend who owns his own repair shop specializing in imports. When I mentioned to him that I was looking at getting the Injen for my car he told me I should reconsider. Said he knew two guys who'd destroyed their engines by sucking water through a CAI in the past year. I didn't ask, but there's no where around here that gets 22" of water ever. Maybe half that on the worst day. I guess I'm still not convinced you'd have to completely submerge the filter to blow the engine.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:00 PM   #18
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Could someone post a pic of the location of the filter when the CAI is installed please? I'm just curious to see exactly where and how low it sits. I get nervous when I hear possible engine damage. Last time it rained here my car was nearly floating across the road while I was driving haha. And I do plan on lowering the car about 1" in the future if that even makes a difference in regards to this topic. Oh and also just curious... is there room to fit a throttle body spacer using the long tube Injen CAI? Thanks everyone!
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Could someone post a pic of the location of the filter when the CAI is installed please? I'm just curious to see exactly where and how low it sits. I get nervous when I hear possible engine damage. Last time it rained here my car was nearly floating across the road while I was driving haha. And I do plan on lowering the car about 1" in the future if that even makes a difference in regards to this topic. Oh and also just curious... is there room to fit a throttle body spacer using the long tube Injen CAI? Thanks everyone!
Try this thread out for some good photos of where the filter sits.
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Well, I'm here in SoCal where we get about 10" of rain a year. But like I said in another thread, I have a friend who owns his own repair shop specializing in imports. When I mentioned to him that I was looking at getting the Injen for my car he told me I should reconsider. Said he knew two guys who'd destroyed their engines by sucking water through a CAI in the past year. I didn't ask, but there's no where around here that gets 22" of water ever. Maybe half that on the worst day. I guess I'm still not convinced you'd have to completely submerge the filter to blow the engine.
I live just down the 91 from you in Riverside, there was some really bad flooding in my area during the last storm, IMHO if you have the hydroshield there should be no problem. I had to drive through some pretty wicked puddles to make it home and had no real problems, definitely recommend the shield though.
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Thanks Demon Hunter... that makes me feel better. And thanks to everyone else for the info and input!
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Question Anyone try the AEM Pre-Filter Wrap for rain?

Anyone try the AEM Dryflow "Pre-Filter" cover or Filter Wrap? It seems like it would work with either the InJen or AEM true CAI kits, but I'm not sure. From their website:

"AEM has released six pre-filter wraps for AEM DryFlow™ Air Filters. AEM DryFlow Pre-Filters are manufactured from a durable micro-screen material and pretreated with a proprietary hydrophobic process designed to prevent splashes of water or mud from saturating your DryFlow air filter."

Sounds like quite a claim and it seems a bit spendy, $$, but I guess it certainly beats repairing a damaged engine after sucking in a big glop of water. Anyone here try this yet? What do you guys think? Take a look:

AEM Dryflow Pre-Filter 1-4007 for V6 Camaro:
http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=AEM-1-4007&cst=81515.1.0001

AEM Dryflow Pre-Filter Wraps:
http://www.aemintakes.com/news/news.aspx?ID=2496

I found this thing while researching here:
http://www.aemintakes.com/news/news.aspx?id=2721

I'm thinking about buying the AEM intake kit, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'd like to hear more about it from other users first. My co-worker with a V6 already tried the InJen kit but returned it after it leaked oil at the breather connection. He also didn't like that their awesome looking Amsoil air filter actually rests on the stock plastic brush guard/belly pan below the bumper, practically blocking off the filter element in the nose cap. The brush guard was used as the support! (???) I didn't get why InJen would to that when they have such a good filter.

Of course, what I really want is a turbo, (too $$$$) but then I couldn't use a CAI anyway!
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Anyone try the AEM Dryflow "Pre-Filter" cover or Filter Wrap? It seems like it would work with either the InJen or AEM true CAI kits, but I'm not sure. From their website:

"AEM has released six pre-filter wraps for AEM DryFlow™ Air Filters. AEM DryFlow Pre-Filters are manufactured from a durable micro-screen material and pretreated with a proprietary hydrophobic process designed to prevent splashes of water or mud from saturating your DryFlow air filter."

Sounds like quite a claim and it seems a bit spendy, $$, but I guess it certainly beats repairing a damaged engine after sucking in a big glop of water. Anyone here try this yet? What do you guys think? Take a look:

AEM Dryflow Pre-Filter 1-4007 for V6 Camaro:
http://www.aemintakes.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=AEM-1-4007&cst=81515.1.0001

AEM Dryflow Pre-Filter Wraps:
http://www.aemintakes.com/news/news.aspx?ID=2496

I found this thing while researching here:
http://www.aemintakes.com/news/news.aspx?id=2721

I'm thinking about buying the AEM intake kit, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'd like to hear more about it from other users first. My co-worker with a V6 already tried the InJen kit but returned it after it leaked oil at the breather connection. He also didn't like that their awesome looking Amsoil air filter actually rests on the stock plastic brush guard/belly pan below the bumper, practically blocking off the filter element in the nose cap. The brush guard was used as the support! (???) I didn't get why InJen would to that when they have such a good filter.

Of course, what I really want is a turbo, (too $$$$) but then I couldn't use a CAI anyway!
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I lost a previous fairly new car to an urban flash flood and there are many places around here that you may be suddenly in a situation of running through deeper than you'd like water in a hard rain. That said, I felt much safer going with the Cold Air Inductions one and I like other characteristics of it better. Just my 2 cents.


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