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View Poll Results: Your guess for the Z28 LSA HP rating
Less than 556 HP 95 13.65%
556 HP 158 22.70%
More than 556 HP 386 55.46%
We don't even know if the LSA is going to be in the Z28! Stupid question! 57 8.19%
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:12 PM   #26
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
In stock form, the LSA is tougher than the LS9 so they can push its limits a bit. Thats why I believe they might do some sort of hybrid between the two.
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
Been a while since I've posted and I couldn't agree more.
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
Who's to say that they won't bump the CTS-V power in 2012 also?
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Its gonna need to be near slp's zl585 hp rating. I saw a copy of motorweek's test video of it...........its an animal.

The z has its work cut out for it.
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
I think you will be proven wrong. I am thinking at least 600hp for the Z when it comes out.
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You gotta figure that Callaway is supercharging the LS3 and getting 572 HP. Surely Chevy will at least get that out of the LSA just for principle?
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
Sound thinking - if you look at what GM has done with the vette - it typically comes out with good horsepower but they always have tricks in their bag to bump it up over the next several years to keep the public interested in buying it. So, I expect it to come out with 575 or less.

It they change the platform as I have read on this forum and it becomes a smaller car, there won't be much incentive to raise horsepower a lot.
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Sound thinking - if you look at what GM has done with the vette - it typically comes out with good horsepower but they always have tricks in their bag to bump it up over the next several years to keep the public interested in buying it. So, I expect it to come out with 575 or less.

It they change the platform as I have read on this forum and it becomes a smaller car, there won't be much incentive to raise horsepower a lot.
Why do you guys think GM will stand still with the CTS-V? The V will also get an increase in HP but I still think the Z28 will make more than it. Also if GM gives the Z28 more hp yhan the Corvette then why the hell would they be afraid giving it more than the CTS-V?
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GM is NOT going to give the new Z/28 more substantially power than the CTS-V for $12,000 less. It's just not going to happen.

People need to use the brains God gave them and look into past performance cars to find the answer to this question. The new engine is most likely going to be the LSA, and it will only make more power than the 556 HP the CTS-V has, if the intake and exhaust are slightly more free-flowing. I would guess a 10 HP bump to approximately 566 HP.

GM has absolutely no reason to push the limits of the motor more than they already have (and for less money, even).

This new Z/28 doesn't need 600 or 800 HP to be competitive and beat the GT500 performance numbers. It just needs high quality, wide, and sticky tires (read: not Goodyear F1s) and a great suspension setup for the roadcourse.
I still say close to 600hp, and The CTS-V is more than just about power. Its a Luxury Sport sedan, there won't be much luxury in the Z/28 in comparison. No Magnetic Suspension, the interior won't be a nice, far less sound deadning etc... Nobody is going to cross shop a CTS-V and a Z/28.
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I still say close to 600hp, and The CTS-V is more than just about power. Its a Luxury Sport sedan, there won't be much luxury in the Z/28 in comparison. No Magnetic Suspension, the interior won't be a nice, far less sound deadning etc... Nobody is going to cross shop a CTS-V and a Z/28.
Exactly. I also suspect people saying the z28 will not get more hp than the V have an adgenda. Someone people have a V and they will be mad as hell to see the Z28 with more power.
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Take an LLT out of a CTS, and put it into a Camaro...you've gained nearly 10 hp just because the air pathways are less restrictive in the Camaro.

By this logic...it's very easy to believe that a completely unmodified LSA in a Camaro would put out at least 570hp.
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i do not believe they will put too much above the 556hp. due to the fact that it will probably take away from vette sales,...?
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576 for the Man
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i do not believe they will put too much above the 556hp. due to the fact that it will probably take away from vette sales,...?
They aren't worried about stepping on the Corvettes toes
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Why would they change the tune of the engine based on the transmission?
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I honestly wish they would ditch the supercharger and bring a 570ish HP pushrod V8 to prove that Chevrolet has brute power and don't need a supercharger to whoop a$$. I know thats not possible in this economy, or cost effective.... but its the point that Chevy has never really used SC's till the ZR1 and CTS V.
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I'm betting the LSA, because it will be the cheaper way to go. The engine is already out there and proven. I think it will also get the CTS-V's brakes. Horsepower will be an even 550, probably through a restricted air cleaner setup. GM may be back to profitability, but they're not exactly flush with cash for R&D.
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600 for the simple reason of saying it has 600. I can see the commercial now!

The 2011 Shelby has 550.....so I know it wont be 556.
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I think there will be some serious cannabalization of Vette sales if they provide anything north of 600 HP..

From a marketing standpoint the Z28 is being made to close the gap between the current SS model and the competition's GT500...while at the same time staying far enough away price & performance wise from the Corvette.

If the performance numbers gap between the new Z-28 and the vette (minus the Zr1 of coarse), is too small and doesn't yeild enough advantage of purchasing a Corvette over a Camaro...more people will most likely choose the Camaro over the Corvette. I know there hasn't been a price released for the Z-28 yet, but im assuming they will space them fair enough apart...again, which is why they need to be careful about how much power they put into this thing.

That being said, maybe GM doesn't mind taking some of the market size away from the Corvette nameplate? I highly doubt this is the case though, throughout history the Corvette and the Camaro have always been #1 and #2 respectively.

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i do not believe they will put too much above the 556hp. due to the fact that it will probably take away from vette sales,...?
Nah, a Vette is always a Vette, people dont just buy them becasue they are powerfull they buy them for the appeal, look and the name.

If you buy a car for just power reasons you could take a fox body and throw in an LS7 427 Supercharged engine in it. For around 30K youll have a car that is faster than any Vette or Camaro.
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After reading all about a pulley change and other minor mods on the LSA to get 620 HP for under $3K, I'm wondering if the Z28 LSA will be rated at 556 HP like the Caddy or if GM is going to up the anty. They could easily push the Z28 to 600 HP without much problem. What do you think the rating will be for the LSA in the Z28?
Would you like to enlighten me on where you read about 3k in mods leading to 620 hp. I have 3k lying around. Most people I've been intouch with have those #'s but your looking and 10K+.
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I think there will be some serious cannabalization of Vette sales if they provide anything north of 600 HP..

From a marketing standpoint the Z28 is being made to close the gap between the current SS model and the competition's GT500...while at the same time staying far enough away price & performance wise from the Corvette.

If the performance numbers gap between the new Z-28 and the vette (minus the Zr1 of coarse), is too small and doesn't yeild enough advantage of purchasing a Corvette over a Camaro...more people will most likely choose the Camaro over the Corvette. I know there hasn't been a price released for the Z-28 yet, but im assuming they will space them fair enough apart...again, which is why they need to be careful about how much power they put into this thing.

That being said, maybe GM doesn't mind taking some of the market size away from the Corvette nameplate? I highly doubt this is the case though, throughout history the Corvette and the Camaro have always been #1 and #2 respectively.

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Here's the thing, from performance and price, the base Corvette and the GT500 are essentially on par with each other. So its impossible to beat the GT500 without beating the base Corvette.
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