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Old 12-29-2010, 03:31 PM   #1
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Car and Driver's Lightning Lap 2010

The results are in. Most notably this year (for me at least), they tested the Z06 (Z07), the 2011 GT500, Mustang 5.0.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...p_2011-feature

I bolded the Big 3

1 2:45.9 MOSLER MT900S LL3 11/08
2 2:48.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 ACR LL3 11/08
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2:49.8 MOSLER PHOTON LL5 2/11
4 2:49.8 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 LL3 2/10
5 2:51.8 LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SUPERLEGGERA LL5 2/11
6 2:52.3 KTM X-BOW LLU 2/10
7 2:53.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 (Z07) LL3 2/11
8 2:53.9 LAMBORGHINI MURCIÉLAGO LP670-4 SV LL5 2/10
9 2:54.6 FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA LL5 11/08
10 2:55.6 NISSAN GT-R LL3 11/08
11 2:55.9 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS LL4 2/11
12 2:57.4 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 10/07
13 2:57.5 PORSCHE 911 TURBO S LL4 2/11
14 2:57.6 ARIEL ATOM 3 LLU 2/10
15 2:58.0 MERCEDES-BENZ SLS AMG LL4 2/11
16 2:58.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 8/07
17 2:58.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE GRAND SPORT LL2 2/10
18 2:59.0 NISSAN GT-R (all-season tires) LL3 11/08
19 2:59.5 AUDI R8 5.2 FSI LL4 2/10
20 3:00.7 FORD GT LL4 11/06
21 3:01.1 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 11/06
22 3:01.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 11/08
23 3:01.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 11/06
24 3:01.8 PORSCHE 911 GT3 LL3 8/07
25 3:03.6 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 8/07
26 3:03.8 PORSCHE BOXSTER SPYDER LL3 2/11
27 3:04.0 CADILLAC CTS-V SEDAN LL2 11/08
28 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
29 3:04.2 CADILLAC CTS-V COUPE LL3 2/11
30 3:04.5 LOTUS EXIGE S LL3 8/07
31 3:05.4 BMW M3 COUPE LL2 2/10
32 3:05.4 LEXUS IS F LL2 2/11
33 3:05.6 BMW M3 COUPE LL2 11/08
34 3:05.6 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S LL3 2/10
35 3:05.8 PORSCHE CAYMAN S LL3 2/10
36 3:05.8 PORSCHE 911 TURBO LL4 8/07
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3:05.9 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 8/07
38 3:06.4 JAGUAR XKR LL3 2/10
39 3:06.5 MERCEDES-BENZ C63 AMG LL2 11/08
40 3:06.5 MERCEDES-BENZ E63 AMG LL3 2/11
41 3:07.4 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/10
42 3:08.3 LOTUS EVORA LL3 2/11
43 3:08.4 AUDI TTS LL2 2/10
44 3:08.6 FORD MUSTANG GT 5.0 LL2 2/11
45 3:08.9 JAGUAR XFR LL2 2/11
46 3:09.2 LOTUS ELISE LL2 11/06
47 3:09.3 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 11/06
48 3:09.5 PORSCHE CAYMAN S LL2 11/06
49 3:09.5 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS LL2 2/10
50 3:10.0 BMW M6 LL3 11/06
51 3:10.5 BMW 335i COUPE LL2 8/07
52 3:10.6 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION SE LL2 2/11
53 3:10.8 AUDI S4 LL2 2/10
54 3:11.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 11/06
55 3:11.0 AUDI RS4 LL3 8/07
56 3:11.7 BMW Z4 M COUPE LL2 8/07
57 3:12.0 NISSAN NISMO 370Z LL2 2/10
58 3:12.5 NISSAN 350Z TRACK LL1 11/06
59 3:12.5 FORD MUSTANG V-6 LL1 2/11
60 3:13.0 CHEVROLET COBALT SS LL1 11/08
61
3:13.3 FORD MUSTANG GT LL1 2/10
62 3:13.3 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR LL2 11/08
63 3:13.5 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION IX MR LL1 11/06
64 3:13.7 BMW 135i COUPE LL2 11/08
65 3:13.8 HYUNDAI GENESIS COUPE 3.8 R-SPEC LL1 2/11
66 3:13.8 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI SEDAN LL2 2/11
67 3:14.0 LEXUS IS F LL2 11/08
68 3:14.6 AUDI S5 LL2 11/08
69 3:14.8 HYUNDAI GENESIS COUPE 3.8 LL1 2/10
70 3:15.0 HONDA S2000 CR LL2 11/08
71 3:15.7 PONTIAC SOLSTICE GXP LL1 8/07
72 3:16.0 MAZDASPEED 3 LL1 8/07
73 3:16.2 MAZDASPEED 3 LL1 2/10
74 3:16.3 DODGE CHALLENGER SRT8 LL2 11/08
75 3:16.5 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX SEDAN LL1 2/11
76 3:16.6 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX HATCHBACK LL1 2/10
77 3:16.6 LOTUS ELISE SC LL2 11/08
78 3:16.7 MAZDA RX-8 R3 LL2 2/11
79 3:17.1 MINI JOHN COOPER WORKS LL1 2/10
80 3:17.5 INFINITI G37 COUPE SPORT LL2 11/08
81 3:18.2 DODGE CHARGER SRT8 LL2 11/06
82 3:19.0 MAZDA RX-8 LL1 11/06
83 3:19.0 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI HATCHBACK LL2 11/08
84 3:19.3 VOLKSWAGEN GTI MkVI LL2 2/10
85
3:20.6 CHEVROLET COBALT SS SUPERCHARGED LL1 11/06
86 3:20.8 DODGE CALIBER SRT4 LL1 11/08
87 3:20.9 FORD MUSTANG GT LL1 11/06
88 3:21.8 VOLKSWAGEN R32 LL2 11/08
89 3:22.9 MINI COOPER S LL1 8/07
90 3:24.8 HONDA CIVIC Si MUGEN LL2 11/08
91 3:25.1 VOLKSWAGEN GTI MkV LL1 11/06
92 3:26.5 HONDA CIVIC Si COUPE LL1 11/06
93 3:26.6 VOLVO C30 VERSION 2.0 LL1 11/08
94 3:29.3 MAZDA MX-5 MIATA LL1 11/06
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:40 PM   #2
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nice to see the z06 walking all over the higher priced cars : )
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:55 PM   #3
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The new V6 mustang is faster than the '10 GT! LOL I'd like to see those run on the same day.
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:27 PM   #4
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The new V6 mustang is faster than the '10 GT! LOL I'd like to see those run on the same day.
i would suspect a rough tie. My car weighed the same when it was stock, same suspension, same brakes. My personal guess would be 1-2 tenths advantage to the '10 GT.... still depressing for me :(
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:50 PM   #5
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The new V6 mustang is faster than the '10 GT! LOL I'd like to see those run on the same day.
that made me laugh too. they really stepped it up.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:41 PM   #6
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It's interesting to see that the 2011 mustang GT is less than a sec ahead of the Camaro.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:46 PM   #7
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It's interesting to see that the 2011 mustang GT is less than a sec ahead of the Camaro.
It would be nice to see them run both cars on the same day.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:14 PM   #8
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It would be nice to see them run both cars on the same day.
road and Track did awhile back, suprisingly the camaro won by like .2 seconds or something. They said despite the understeer the camaro won because it has more grunt out of the corners in contrast to the mustang which was a bit quicker in the corners. I'm at work so I cant provide a link. Thats a photo finish.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:34 PM   #9
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road and Track did awhile back, suprisingly the camaro won by like .2 seconds or something. They said despite the understeer the camaro won because it has more grunt out of the corners in contrast to the mustang which was a bit quicker in the corners. I'm at work so I cant provide a link. Thats a photo finish.
Actually, Camaro lost by a tenth.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...tang_gt_page_2

...........but yeah, that is extremely close.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:34 PM   #10
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whats crazy is the 10 second difference between just the z06's

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Actually, Camaro lost by a tenth.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...tang_gt_page_2

...........but yeah, that is extremely close.
good catch!
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:34 PM   #11
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I guess they have their own STIG sort of guy?
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:38 PM   #12
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:53 PM   #13
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i would suspect a rough tie. My car weighed the same when it was stock, same suspension, same brakes. My personal guess would be 1-2 tenths advantage to the '10 GT.... still depressing for me :(
Well, you do have A LOT bigger aftermarket option going for you than the 2011 V6 does. Plus, the V8 sure does sound better than the V6!
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:19 PM   #14
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i would suspect a rough tie. My car weighed the same when it was stock, same suspension, same brakes. My personal guess would be 1-2 tenths advantage to the '10 GT.... still depressing for me :(
Plus the 2011 V6 Mustang was electronically limited to 114 mph and spent more than 15 seconds of each lap against the limiter!! Who knows what it would have run with the limiter removed.

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"We have little doubt that it could have unseated the co–class-champ 2006 Nissan 350Z Track if the Ford hadn’t been equipped with a 114-mph governor, which the car banged into for more than 15 seconds per lap. Yet despite the interference of the electric anchor, the new V-6–powered car still managed to beat last year’s 315-hp V-8 Mustang by 0.8 second."
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:24 PM   #15
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The Zr1 and Z06 Carbon (Z07) are simply amazing cars!!

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If the Z/28 manages to lose some weight over the CTS-V coupe, it would seem to give the new GT500 a hell of a run; it was only a 2 tenths difference between the two!
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I'm not sure what the lsa and the ls3 weigh but I can't fathom the z28 weighing as much as the cts-v does. it should be a couple hundred lbs lighter?
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nice to see the z06 walking all over the higher priced cars : )
agreed but price being =
would you really take a Z06 over Ferrari-Lamborghini
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I'm not sure what the lsa and the ls3 weigh but I can't fathom the z28 weighing as much as the cts-v does. it should be a couple hundred lbs lighter?
I believe curb weight on a CTS-V sedan is around 4200 lbs.
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agreed but price being =
would you really take a Z06 over Ferrari-Lamborghini
Probably. Even more so with the ZR1.

Ferarris and Lamborghinis are nice cars but overplayed IMO.

It's like Jeremy Clarkson said...you expect an Enzo to go fast...but you simply don't expect the power of the ZR1.
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Whoever was their driver for this VIR test suck's as he is almost 6 seconds off the lap time the 2011 GT500 PP set earlier this year at VIR (2:58.48) when it beat the 2010 GS and was only .2 seconds behind the ZO6. Its not really worth get all worked up over these numbers since they were all put down by a driver who is 6 seconds slower a lap then the car is capable of which is a freaking eternity per lap.



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Whoever was their driver for this VIR test suck's as he is almost 6 seconds off the lap time the 2011 GT500 PP set earlier this year at VIR (2:58.48) when it beat the 2010 GS and was only .2 seconds behind the ZO6. Its not really worth get all worked up over these numbers since they were all put down by a driver who is 6 seconds slower a lap then the car is capable of which is a freaking eternity per lap.



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That is precisely why many people ignore attempts to compare runs made on different days by different drivers, and why most enthusiasts look forward to seeing the lightning lap results. The cars get tested at the same time by the same driver, so the variable is the car itself. Its not about getting the best possible time (honestly, who relies on magazines for that?) but more about having a valid way to actually compare well different cars perform on the same track.
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That is precisely why many people ignore attempts to compare runs made on different days by different drivers, and why most enthusiasts look forward to seeing the lightning lap results. The cars get tested at the same time by the same driver, so the variable is the car itself. Its not about getting the best possible time (honestly, who relies on magazines for that?) but more about having a valid way to actually compare well different cars perform on the same track.
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Great showing by the Stangs.

Could only imagine what the V6 would do without being on the rev limiter for 15 seconds.
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