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Old 01-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #1
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What should I do? I could be number 2!

I just got back from my dealer. He had 27 deposits at one point (one guy gave him 4000 dollars 2 years ago but is holding out for the first four Z28s). When I told the dealer it could be a long wait, he smiled and said the guy claims to "know something."

Most of the deposit holders are holding out until they can see the car and sit in it. He has given back almost ten deposits because guys have gotten impatient and purchased something else (a couple corvettes, a mustang, and a few walk-aways).

Many guys have come in to actually order, but as he goes through the options with them they tell him to wait until they can see the colors, see how the stripes look, and how the interior has turned out.

Only one guy actually has an order in the system.

He told me that if I order now, I am number 2 to go in the system and number two to get my car (not counting the v6 that they will get early on). I guess by actually putting the order through, I jump ahead of some other wishy-washy deposits.

Should I do it? I was planning on waiting until I had definitive answers about ABL, GM points, CGM photos, etc.

He is selling for MSRP and seemed very straight forward. I have purchased cars off of the lot from them before a few times and they have been good to me.

Someone just nudge me a little bit!
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:27 PM   #2
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...Should I do it? I was planning on waiting until I had definitive answers about ABL, GM points, CGM photos, etc.
Would knowing something definitive on these items make or break it for you? If not, then order and be done with it.
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make sure your deposit is fully refundable (in writing) then do it. but you still have to deal with the allocation wait whenever he actually gets the ordered cars in
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:42 PM   #4
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Being #2 is probably a very rare thing right now. You might want to ask the dealer if their allotment allows for what you want right now. Being #2 might not be a good thing if they have an allotment for one 2SS and you want one and it's already taken by the first person who ordered.

But if the model you want hasn't been taken, then by all means, rock-on and put that order in
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:51 PM   #5
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Being #2 is probably a very rare thing right now. You might want to ask the dealer if their allotment allows for what you want right now. Being #2 might not be a good thing if they have an allotment for one 2SS and you want one and it's already taken by the first person who ordered.

But if the model you want hasn't been taken, then by all means, rock-on and put that order in
I got an emergency call (on call tonight) and had to run out before I could ask them their allotment for sure, but earlier in the conversation he said that they got two ZR1s. They sell a lot of other corvettes also so I am pretty sure I would be getting an early car.
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Being #2 is probably a very rare thing right now. You might want to ask the dealer if their allotment allows for what you want right now. Being #2 might not be a good thing if they have an allotment for one 2SS and you want one and it's already taken by the first person who ordered.

But if the model you want hasn't been taken, then by all means, rock-on and put that order in
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You do know what the EVS guys said about dealers only being allotted a certain amount of SS cars was complete BS and isn't true.
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So were dealers allotted a given number of SS's and V6's? Or were they just allotted a total numbe of cars?
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #8
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You do know what the EVS guys said about dealers only being allotted a certain amount of SS cars was complete BS and isn't true.
No I didn't know that. I wouldn't dispute the facts.

However, my dealer may be mis-informed too. He says the owner of the dealership told him they couldn't order another 2SS b/c for now they were only going to receive one and only two V6's. At any rate, I hope that it's not true. I'm happy though to report that I was the 1st to order the 2SS there, so even if it is true, I'm in like Flynn!
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:35 PM   #9
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Just order the damn Camaro. You won't be sorry and you know it.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:52 PM   #10
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Well...if you want to see CGM...check out a vette with it...and is ABL really gonna break the deal...personally...i hope its not in the car...i dont want to stand out like some punk with a laser light show in the car. And discounts will be offered from day 1...just get the car man
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So were dealers allotted a given number of SS's and V6's? Or were they just allotted a total numbe of cars?
Just a total number of cars. A dealer could have an allotment of 20 cars and 19 be for a 2SS, all the 2SS will be built.
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No I didn't know that. I wouldn't dispute the facts.

However, my dealer may be mis-informed too. He says the owner of the dealership told him they couldn't order another 2SS b/c for now they were only going to receive one and only two V6's. At any rate, I hope that it's not true. I'm happy though to report that I was the 1st to order the 2SS there, so even if it is true, I'm in like Flynn!
Well considering that numerous other people and even Scott (Fbodfather) had to call them out and tell them to stop spreading lies and misinformation, I wouldn't believe anything you ever read from them.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:27 AM   #13
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Well considering that numerous other people and even Scott (Fbodfather) had to call them out and tell them to stop spreading lies and misinformation, I wouldn't believe anything you ever read from them.
While I agree that they were, in the end, spewing some BAD information, I have a hard time believing they did it on purpose or that anything they say from now on is crap. Think of ALL the misinformation that was flowing through this board instantly when they announced the delay. Keep in mind they are a dealer and will err on the side of caution- ie not getting everyone's hopes up. They did apologize when called out.

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As far as being #2, you haven't ordered yet ?
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Just a total number of cars. A dealer could have an allotment of 20 cars and 19 be for a 2SS, all the 2SS will be built.Well considering that numerous other people and even Scott (Fbodfather) had to call them out and tell them to stop spreading lies and misinformation, I wouldn't believe anything you ever read from them.


GM ...shoot, SCOTT has said all along that they don't want to piss off the enthusiasts and that ALL orders, whether it be SS or LT, WILL be built by October (barring any unforseen circumstances beyond GM's control).

Dude...don't worry about that. Misinformation is so easy to come by when people see something and then speculated till no end on what THEY think it means. It's sad to see how detrimental the spreading of false info can be to a market. How many people pulled their orders due to them??? If I were GM, a "sorry" sure as HELL wouldn't cut it for me. ...and those are MY feelings on the situation. >..and I have every right to be a little miffed since we still see people getting this info wrong every day.



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Go back to the dealer. You never mentioned how many allocations he has. If only two ordered...(or one) and there are 15 allocations..>DUDE....you have NO problem w/ a wait! (unless you get something that has constraints on it, like white). I'd put down some cash (if they demand it) but make sure that the deposit is 100% refundable. AND, I'd make sure they entered the order in the computer system. Then, have them print up the workbench info "for your records on the Camaro."

Go for it. I don't know why the others didn't enter their orders....you might wanna check w/ the sales manager to make sure the guy isn't pulling your leg. Sounds weird that they would take all those deposits but not place orders. Find that out first.

Good luck and let us know what happens!
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Well,

I have piece of paper that says OrderWORKBENCH. It has an order detail number (6 letters) and a BAC number (6 numbers).

2SS
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I was going to order the silver stripes but my dealer pretty much talked me out of it. He said that if it were his car, he would get them painted on. I still have a little time to change my mind.

MSRP, refundable deposit, number 2. He made no promises about delivery, but I am hopeful for June. Allocation was "low twenties?" I was a little nervous about him not having an exact number but they sold the most trucks and the second most number of cars in the state last year. They had 4 corvettes on their showroom floor (including an 83,000 cyber gray corvette ZO6). They also got two ZR1s allocated.

My wife said I was acting like a kid all day today.
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Old 01-25-2009, 04:34 AM   #16
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HAD 27, REFUNDED 10 = 17.......and they only have one order actually submitted.....

I wonder how those 16 remaining people feel about someone holding their money, and not having their order in the system for GM to even think about building....????




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HAD 27, REFUNDED 10 = 17.......and they only have one order actually submitted.....

I wonder how those 16 remaining people feel about someone holding their money, and not having their order in the system for GM to even think about building....????




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It doesn't quite seem right does it? I know the first guy will not settle for less than the first four z28s, but that still leaves over a dozen that I just jumped ahead of. I am sure that it is the dealers fault and lack of communication with these guys. I knew way more about the process, and the options than he did. He didn't know what LPO meant, and he told the other guys that they need to know exactly what they want before they submit. I think he basically scared a bunch of guys into not ordering.

When we ordered I sat next to him and told him exactly what boxes to check all the way down the list.

One of the salesmen whispered to me that he didn't really like the camaro and that he was going to get the Challenger SE and just not bring it to work.
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