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Old 01-14-2011, 09:01 AM   #701
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I caught in here that you have O2 deletes? I mentioned tune before, but does the tune you have, although good, depend on O2 sensors? Would that mod have to be tuned into the mix? Same with the injectors. Doesn't it need to be specific to what size you have?
No O2 deletes. Just the tune I was running beofre the install of the maggie had them turned off. Sensors are still there and working.
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It's pretty sad when I'm doing google searches for dyno tuning in Mobile, AL and I'm repeatedly directed to C5 threads where I am asking where I can find a dyno tune in Mobile AL.
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No O2 deletes. Just the tune I was running beofre the install of the maggie had them turned off. Sensors are still there and working.
so nevermind... rear O2s or not, that probably wouldn't be it. they just tell the car whether or not the cats are working. it's the fronts that determine A/F ratio

i think i was still asleep when i posted about that

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It's pretty sad when I'm doing google searches for dyno tuning in Mobile, AL and I'm repeatedly directed to C5 threads where I am asking where I can find a dyno tune in Mobile AL.
had that happen, too.

i have, however, done a google image search for cleared denali headlights & found a picture of my truck
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so nevermind... rear O2s or not, that probably wouldn't be it. they just tell the car whether or not the cats are working. it's the fronts that determine A/F ratio

i think i was still asleep when i posted about that



had that happen, too.

i have, however, done a google image search for cleared denali headlights & found a picture of my truck
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:35 AM   #707
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call Ted Jannetti for a new tune........he can do it remotely
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:03 AM   #708
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Huh?
Meaning the Pipeline CAI has the MAF in a completely different location than stock. I had mine re-tuned last week after installing an ADM with the MAF now inside the box. It made a difference... but not a lot.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:09 AM   #709
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It's pretty sad when I'm doing google searches for dyno tuning in Mobile, AL and I'm repeatedly directed to C5 threads where I am asking where I can find a dyno tune in Mobile AL.
you should be used to going in Circles you have been doing it for a few days now.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:24 AM   #710
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call Ted Jannetti for a new tune........he can do it remotely
He can't he got in a little heated debate with Ted.


But Ted did say he would fix it for 300.00 for a tune for his car.
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OK I spoke to a long time friend of mine today who is one of those zen guys who understands anything dealing with cars.

FWIW. Here's what he had to say.

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0.15 min start
0.17 min - Idle
1.07 min - A single POP
1.24 min - Started fluxuating the RPM slightly
1.33 min - Fuel starvation starts adversely effecting Idle

The Engine is running out of fuel. This video does not give me any indication of bad gas, because if gas is bad, it is all bad and will not wait for 1.33 minutes.

The so called SMOKE is just condensation, which happens on all vehicles, and is not a large amount.

I'm sticking with fuel delivery problem. fuel filter, pressure regulator, pump. A Direct reading mechanical gauge is required for further troubleshooting to determine which is the cause.
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Did PQ pinch the fuel line?
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Where is the video, what page or site?
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Where is the video, what page or site?
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...88#post2725988

that will jump to his post.
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That sucks man. I hope you get it squared away. I'd be pulling my hair out too :(
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I watched the video. This is what I heard.

0.15 min start
0.17 min - Idle
1.07 min - A single POP
1.24 min - Started fluxuating the RPM slightly
1.33 min - Fuel starvation starts adversely effecting Idle

The Engine is running out of fuel. This video does not give me any indication of bad gas, because if gas is bad, it is all bad and will not wait for 1.33 minutes.

The so called SMOKE is just condensation, which happens on all vehicles, and is not a large amount.

I'm sticking with fuel delivery problem. fuel filter, pressure regulator, pump. A Direct reading mechanical gauge is required for further troubleshooting to determine which is the cause.


Just a couple of small observations....

That smoke in my opinion is more than just condensation...The kind of smoke that pouring out of that pipe looks like a cold start in Chicago when it's 19 degrees. Looked pretty mild where Randy's at....I could be wrong.

Fuel could be an issue....but keep in mind it's gotta be in open loop so it's getting extra fuel till the ecm starts taking input from all the sensors. If the car is starving for fuel at idle, you have a SERIOUS fuel problem on your hands. Get the fuel pressure gauge out and check.
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Just a couple of small observations....

That smoke in my opinion is more than just condensation...The kind of smoke that pouring out of that pipe looks like a cold start in Chicago when it's 19 degrees. Looked pretty mild where Randy's at....I could be wrong.

Fuel could be an issue....but keep in mind it's gotta be in open loop so it's getting extra fuel till the ecm starts taking input from all the sensors. If the car is starving for fuel at idle, you have a SERIOUS fuel problem on your hands. Get the fuel pressure gauge out and check.
It was in the low 30's high 20's that night and that was the first start the following morning.

What's weird to me is that it runs fine on start up then once it gets out of the cold start cycle (I don't know the exact term for it) it starts to surge and run rough....
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It was in the low 30's high 20's that night and that was the first start the following morning.

What's weird to me is that it runs fine on start up then once it gets out of the cold start cycle (I don't know the exact term for it) it starts to surge and run rough....

My guess is it's coming into closed loop at that point...at that time, it's taking info from all the sensors to make it's call on fuel & spark.

Randy...did the car always smoke like that on cold start? Have you pulled any plugs yet?
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Old 01-14-2011, 01:19 PM   #719
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Hang in there, it will be something simple. My AC would not work after my install, drove me nuts, until I found the sensor on the driver's side close to the radiator, that I mostly but not completely unplugged, when putting in the intercooler. I had to go completely through the install paper work and revisit the install step by step until I found it, and then it stood out like a sore thumb. I tend to doubt it's the tune per se (being the correct tune), but I do wonder if it is a corrupted file or something like that.
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the smoke on cold start seems normal to me. mine seems to do it when it's cool. As soon as the condensation in the pipes heat up, it starts and gets worse until cleared.


......Are the intake gaskets reusable? Could he be sucking air at one or both? If so the air would be off from what the MAF was telling the ECM????

(i stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, so take what I say, with that in mind)
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Did PQ pinch the fuel line?
Nope. In fact it will damn near squirt fuel right through the hood.

I know the hard way.

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He can't he got in a little heated debate with Ted.


But Ted did say he would fix it for 300.00 for a tune for his car.
I wouldn't say heated. He was just in a shitty mood. Too bad though.

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It ain't fuel. Simply because I've already willed it not to be.

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That sucks man. I hope you get it squared away. I'd be pulling my hair out too :(


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Randy...did the car always smoke like that on cold start? Have you pulled any plugs yet?
Nope. Never smoked like that. I haven't ;ulled a plug, I just don't think it's the problem. I'm so convinced it's in the tune.

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but I do wonder if it is a corrupted file or something like that.
I thought about that. But I don't see why.

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the smoke on cold start seems normal to me. mine seems to do it when it's cool. As soon as the condensation in the pipes heat up, it starts and gets worse until cleared.


......Are the intake gaskets reusable? Could he be sucking air at one or both? If so the air would be off from what the MAF was telling the ECM????

(i stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, so take what I say, with that in mind)
I checked all gaskets thouroughly.
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Talked to Magnuson. Good info. I think it's the tune. He told me to ziptie the actuator open. Essintialy making it a NA system to drive it to a tuner. He says he believes it to be my catless, long tube system espec with teh intake I have.
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Talked to Magnuson. Good info. I think it's the tune. He told me to ziptie the actuator open. Essintialy making it a NA system to drive it to a tuner. He says he believes it to be my catless, long tube system espec with teh intake I have.
Have you found said tuner? and we got to find you an Easy Button.
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Talked to Magnuson. Good info. I think it's the tune. He told me to ziptie the actuator open. Essintialy making it a NA system to drive it to a tuner. He says he believes it to be my catless, long tube system espec with teh intake I have.
This sounds like a conversation we had last night! LOL Glad you (maybe) have it figured out!!!!
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