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Old 06-05-2011, 05:29 AM   #1089
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Ok smarta$$ I was gonna compliment your bending skillz but I think I see a kink in one

How do you paint anything? Can't paint over rust but I'm betcha you can watch bare metal oxidize right before your eyes out there
We use a thick nap roller...


Actually, we use a needle gun and buffers and take the metal pretty much down to bare metal... What rust coating remains is treated with a compound that converts the rust to a form of primer. We then prime it, seal coat it and then apply the color. It takes time and we loose mil thickness.... While it didn't apply to this pump assembly, there are some pieces we have to be strategic with what gets painted or it wont go back together... A production riser hanger is one example... If you paint the steel pins and hinge locations, the areas that rust the worst, then the dang thing wont go back together... So, we clean it as best we can, wipe it down with paint thinner and grease the hell out of it....

We paint pretty much anything that doesn't move, including the occasional roustabout....

Roustabouts are entry level employees, (they chase the big yellow ball hanging from the crane) and there are a world of funny stories about them... Notable ones earn a life long nickname during this time... Tie Wrap is one that comes to mind... He had never seen a tie wrap when he first came offshore...He was playing with one and cinched it down on his finger... tightly... He thought there was a release... He had to go to the rig medic who used a ring cutter to get it off... Nope, no release, and he is known pretty much only as tie wrap now... You can call the office and ask where tie wrap is working and they'll 1.) know who you're talking about, and 2.) probably know which rig he is on...

We had a roustabout on a rig I worked on a few years ago that loved to lean on handrails... It mattered not where on the rig he was, he could manage to find a rail to lean on... (loved to watch work being performed)

The people that work out here are for the most part, a "little touched" and are very non-tolerant of laziness... So, I had seen this trend of laziness and decided to fix it...

I got two scrub brushes and cut slits in them so a belt would slide through it... I drilled holes and after slipping the belt in to them, I bolted the brushes in place so they would stay in front of the bearer... I added some suspenders, and presented it to the hand rail fixture... His crane operator (supervisor) watched the proceedings... I told him if he was going to lean on the rails all the time, he could at least be scrubbing them while doing so... He had to wear it the rest of his tour, (pronounced tower, cajun translation) including to dinner... He got the message and actually turned into a great employee...

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Yeah...the first couple pix of the waves and I"m like....that don't look bad. Then I see the next one and I'm like, "where'd the boat go?"

Oh...there it is...
I wish I could get and post video of it... As I type this, the worst of it has moved through for now... Now it's just dang cold and the wind is still blowing rain horizontally when the squalls move through... We are hoping the flight that couldn't land yesterday for part of the national crew change makes it today or tomorrows flights will be further backed up, making it tough for us to get off the rig...
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Looks like a dangerous place to work...Do ya'll watch "Deadliest Catch" video's and call em' pansies?

.... So... Robert.... What's your nickname?
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Those are some serious seas Robert. It is always so hard to get a sense of just how powerful the ocean is. Crazy stuff. Maybe someday (when it becomes public) you can see some of the stuff we are working on that allows unmanned vessels to operate in any sea state. People such as yourself that are familiar with open water really appreciate it.

Very cool pics.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:03 AM   #1092
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Looks like a dangerous place to work...Do ya'll watch "Deadliest Catch" video's and call em' pansies?

.... So... Robert.... What's your nickname?
It's only dangerous if you let it be... We pay attention all the time to our surroundings... We have to... Military pilots call it situational awareness, and if you don't have it when you first come out here, you soon develope it, for yourself and others as well...

we constantly look out for others to make sure their focus on a task doesn't cause them tunnel vision and get them in trouble...

Happy Feet... :(

I have a healthy dose of self imposed chicken factor...

When I was working in Mexico, we were suffering a really bad storm and it was decided that we were going to disconnect the completion conduit and testing hoses running down into the hole... There were some chicksan lines that had to be disconnected... This is hard to explain and probably harder to follow if you don't know the equipment and lingo, but I'll try...

A chicksan is a high pressure pipe with a hammer union swivel on each end... we use them to run from say the Choke/Kill manifold to a cement head on the drill string... the pipe going down into the hole...

The pipe going into the hole is held by the elevators, which are held by lifting bails... Think of a dog bone 15-20 feet long, solid steel with a hole at each end... they weigh several thousand lbs each...

so, the roughnecks were hiding behind the draw works since the chicksans were clattering from flat on the deck to fully extended as the rig was heaving up and down...

The driller and asst driller were trying to hammer the union loose, with a 16 lb sledge hammer, and since they were at risk of getting hit by the chicksans, I got a rope and lassoed the chicksans and was holding them back from the Driller and AD, and warning them when the pipes were coming back down so they could move...

Well, about this time the olmstead valve on the drill string compensator locked and so the top drive and stuff were no longer heaving with the rig... The elevators hit the drill floor, the bails started leaning out to the side,, the chains on the link tilt broke, and by the time the rig heaved the other way, the bails were close enough to me I could have tiptoed and kissed them... Yup, my feet were going 90 to nothing, but I wasn't going anywhere... I wanted to, but I was still trying to keep the chicksans off the driller and AD... hence... Happy Feet...Most of the guiys on this rig dont know that though... the AD does, he was over on the other rig when this happened... he was off tour but on the rig...
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Nice to meey ya, Happy... you can call me Fluffy... Like a cotton ball, there's a lot to me, but when you tear into it, it just doesn't go very far
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Those are some serious seas Robert. It is always so hard to get a sense of just how powerful the ocean is. Crazy stuff. Maybe someday (when it becomes public) you can see some of the stuff we are working on that allows unmanned vessels to operate in any sea state. People such as yourself that are familiar with open water really appreciate it.

Very cool pics.
AUV's, or UAV's depending on the company that designs them...???

I've worked on one or two in the past...
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..... we use a needle gun and buffers and take the metal pretty much down to bare metal... ...
OMG... totally having flash backs... One of the very worst experiences of my life...

As a Helo crewman/SAR guy... ship's company hated us... we got head of the line during flight ops, wore flight suits, had time to work out (mandatory), worked behind closed doors due the the classified stuff related to our jobs...

One time when I was pretty junior, (met the ship while they were already on cruise). I accidentally called a Senior Chief Boatswain's Mate, "Chief" while in my flight suit headed back to the shop...

I ended up going TAD for a week to the Foc'sle (Forecastle) and working for him....

needle guns, buffers, strippers, nappy rollers with paint the consistency of Jello... brasso... I've always been a hard worker. worked a few miserable jobs as a young man before I joined the Navy... But damn man, that sucked... I earned the BMCS's respect, he didn't think I'd last the week... but I would have rather he hated me than have to go through that week again....

Sorry I keep hijacking your thread... but you just keep reminding me of my time at sea.



I used to love to get up early and go to the Fan Tail (most aft part of the ship) and watch the water churn behind us... it's weird... you can't hear anything but the water churning... No ship noise, no wind no engine noise, not even flight deck noise... it's like the churning water just Nulls every other sound out...

I also used to love going to the cat walks and looking at the different colors the ocean would turn... Some days it would be black like black marble.. so black it wouldn't reflect anything.. other days it would be green or so blue you'd swear you can see 7 miles deep.... And everything in between... The ocean has many personalities...

The first time I saw a wave spray over the bow of the aircraft carrier 70' up..
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Hi-jack away...

I had a friend in the navy way back when... He is quite a bit older than I am... He served on the Kitty Hawk... Went on a West Pac to Yankee Station, you probably know when... He said the stopped in Pearl to rep up, and then headed to Yankee Station... Enroute they ran into a typhoon... Had the Port Fwd elevator down for some reason and a wave took it off... completely... the Captain got relieved... He said at one point in the storm the destroyer escorts would literally submarine, come up shaking like a dog and do it at the next wave... He said that out of 3000+ men, 2500 were huddled a-mid'ships trying to minimize the pitch effects on themselves...
he didn't realize how big the seas were unitl they had two feet of blue water run all the way down the deck... He said they crested one wave, buried the bull horns in the next wave and when the bow came up,, it brought literally tons of water and it ran the length of the deck... spilling off the side the whole way... Now I have to take this friend with a grain of salt, but working out here, I came to realize just how big the seas can get... so...

I'm amazed how big the seas can get and how quickly it can happen... Slick calm now and four or five hours later your looking for some relief...
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The first time I saw a wave spray over the bow of the aircraft carrier 70' up..
Holy *hit............ Serious? How big were those freaking waves? Damn.
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Cool stories... Why did he get pist at you calling him Chief?

Chris, thanks for your service, and Robert, thanks for your gas

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Hi-jack away...

I had a friend in the navy way back when... He is quite a bit older than I am... He served on the Kitty Hawk... Went on a West Pac to Yankee Station, you probably know when... He said the stopped in Pearl to rep up, and then headed to Yankee Station... Enroute they ran into a typhoon... Had the Port Fwd elevator down for some reason and a wave took it off... completely... the Captain got relieved... He said at one point in the storm the destroyer escorts would literally submarine, come up shaking like a dog and do it at the next wave... He said that out of 3000+ men, 2500 were huddled a-mid'ships trying to minimize the pitch effects on themselves...
he didn't realize how big the seas were unitl they had two feet of blue water run all the way down the deck... He said they crested one wave, buried the bull horns in the next wave and when the bow came up,, it brought literally tons of water and it ran the length of the deck... spilling off the side the whole way... Now I have to take this friend with a grain of salt, but working out here, I came to realize just how big the seas can get... so...

I'm amazed how big the seas can get and how quickly it can happen... Slick calm now and four or five hours later your looking for some relief...
That story about the Kitty Hawk is pretty well known... I don't think people understand how big an elevator is on the carrier... Like big enough for 2 F14 or F18s to fit side by side not opposing.....

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Holy *hit............ Serious? How big were those freaking waves? Damn.
Not necessarily 70 feet but when the carrier is pitching the flight deck can be as low as 30 ish feet above water... So you more plow through the next wave... But I can tell you this... We been crossing the Indian Ocean... and when you are sitting in the Galley on a ship the size of an Aircraft Carrier and your food is launched off the table cut the wave hits the bow so hard it's like she ran aground... That will rattle any one's cage...

I've been flying looking for good weather.... Literally, they'd send the helo's out to try and get above the clouds and look for clear weather to run flight ops... and just as we lifted off the flight deck the destroyer next to us literally disappeared.. I mean GONE... underwater... I thought for sure I was gonna have to rescue someone in that weather... but I'll be dammed if she didn't just breach the other side and shake it of like a dog getting out of a pond. I was astounded...



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Chris, thanks for your service, and Robert, thanks for your gas

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Well surface guys are pretty anal about their actual rank..
Chief, Senior Chief, and Master Chiefs all wear different rank insignia...

And since I was an airdale on board ship, junior airdale on board ship, who called him by the wrong rank.... (You really only call Chiefs "Chief" Senior Chiefs "Senior" and Master Chiefs... "Master Chief"... Or CMC but only if they are the "Command Master Chief")..... He decided I was gonna be the example...

so to call a Senior Chief just "Chief" is robing him of one rank... and the fact that I was an "Air Wing" guy didn't help much...

And you are very welcome.. I'd be glad to paddle that creek with you guys should the need arise.
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Cool stories... Why did he get pist at you calling him Chief?

Chris, thanks for your service, and Robert, thanks for your gas

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Inferiority complex... ???


It's like the Stool pushers, I mean tool pushers out here... I kinda work for them, but mostly I work for the OIM and the Subsea Supervisors in town... I've run a tool pusher out of the moonpool for getting in the way... And I've been on the floating piece of junk iron for 28 days, surviving mostly on a diet of french fries... You don't want anything from me... except maybe the oil we drill for when we are working...

I eat so much potatoes out here, I think I probably pass vodka...
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Inferiority complex... ???


It's like the Stool pushers, I mean tool pushers out here... I kinda work for them, but mostly I work for the OIM and the Subsea Supervisors in town... I've run a tool pusher out of the moonpool for getting in the way... And I've been on the floating piece of junk iron for 28 days, surviving mostly on a diet of french fries... You don't want anything from me... except maybe the oil we drill for when we are working...

I eat so much potatoes out here, I think I probably pass vodka...
LMAO Don't let the rest of the crew know that.. They's start following you to the head with a flask...

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That story about the Kitty Hawk is pretty well known... I don't think people understand how big an elevator is on the carrier... Like big enough for 2 F14 or F18s to fit side by side not opposing.....



Not necessarily 70 feet but when the carrier is pitching the flight deck can be as low as 30 ish feet above water... So you more plow through the next wave... But I can tell you this... We been crossing the Indian Ocean... and when you are sitting in the Galley on a ship the size of an Aircraft Carrier and your food is launched off the table cut the wave hits the bow so hard it's like she ran aground... That will rattle any one's cage...

I've been flying looking for good weather.... Literally, they'd send the helo's out to try and get above the clouds and look for clear weather to run flight ops... and just as we lifted off the flight deck the destroyer next to us literally disappeared.. I mean GONE... underwater... I thought for sure I was gonna have to rescue someone in that weather... but I'll be dammed if she didn't just breach the other side and shake it of like a dog getting out of a pond. I was astounded...





Well surface guys are pretty anal about their actual rank..
Chief, Senior Chief, and Master Chiefs all wear different rank insignia...

And since I was an airdale on board ship, junior airdale on board ship, who called him by the wrong rank.... (You really only call Chiefs "Chief" Senior Chiefs "Senior" and Master Chiefs... "Master Chief"... Or CMC but only if they are the "Command Master Chief")..... He decided I was gonna be the example...

so to call a Senior Chief just "Chief" is robing him of one rank... and the fact that I was an "Air Wing" guy didn't help much...

And you are very welcome.. I'd be glad to paddle that creek with you guys should the need arise.
funny story about needle guns... There was a female roustabout on a rig in the gulf of Mexico, several years ago... I was still working for Oceaneering at the time... If there was any chipping and buffing to be done, she would throw her hat in the mix before anybody else had a chance to... and everybody hates chipping... well most everybody...

She would get a five gallon bucket, her needle gun and hoses and go at it... funny thing is she would stop chipping every so often.... kind of shake a little, and go back at it... Over and over and over again... I often wonder if she needed a cigarette as often as she had the shaking spells...
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funny story about needle guns... There was a female roustabout on a rig in the gulf of Mexico, several years ago... I was still working for Oceaneering at the time... If there was any chipping and buffing to be done, she would throw her hat in the mix before anybody else had a chance to... and everybody hates chipping... well most everybody...

She would get a five gallon bucket, her needle gun and hoses and go at it... funny thing is she would stop chipping every so often.... kind of shake a little, and go back at it... Over and over and over again... I often wonder if she needed a cigarette as often as she had the shaking spells...
Well that may have been the same knucklehead who would take care of the the flight deck pad eyes at 2 am... Our berthing was directly under the waist cat waterbrake... or basically one level below the flight deck.. and every night for a frakin month some deck hand would be up there at 2 am.... hammering away...

Talk about wanting to throw some one over board...
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Well, Act made some adjustments to my clutch, and it should have shipped out today.

Corey should have the newly rebuilt upgraded tran in his hands tomorrow, so I'm hoping to be able to pick it up Friday, but Saturday or Monday may be more realistic...

Have no doubt it will be better though...
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