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Old 11-16-2011, 10:32 AM   #1826
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I have no need for Rob's "purged" methanol...

I can't even look at his avatar anymore....



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Old 11-16-2011, 11:24 AM   #1827
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Very cool! The shift points, to me, and the clutch engaging/disengaging seems it would be the most violent stage on anything with boost. Now, next question, what happens to the spooled boost with 1200++ ponies when you do shift? Is there a dip? Or, at the hp level, would you even notice a dip??
There are a couple of ways to address this...
1. Deal with the dip in boost... As you lift to shift, the air flow through the motor diminishes, and consequently you loose boost... Not necessarily a bad thing as coming off the clutch at full power can blow the tires off... Loss of traction and it's inherent problems.... Bear in mind right now on my street tires, I can do a 110 mph burnout.... Now add 400-500 more hp... The dip in boost allows you time to set the tires with traction as you spool back up... Which with the size turbos I have, and 427 cubic inches is almost immediately...
2. Use a no lift shift box... If I understand it correctly is a hard rev limiter box that allows you to keep the throttle on the floor while shifting, and it cuts out whatever is necessary to prevent over revving the motor... Don't quote me on that as I'm still learning about it... I think some people call it a stutter box, and the only time I saw someone using one on these cars the motor cratered due to using it wrong....it's supposed to be used and started after the burnout, and this one was engaged for the burnout... mental error is all. I'm not bad mouthing the person it happened to, lord knows it could happen to me just ad easily...but with what we have in these motors, mental errors are very very costly...it's the nature of the beast....cubic dollars and green hp....not environmentally green either...
3. Learn to do partial lift shifts... Where instead of coming completely off the gas, you just lift enough to keep from over revving the motor while shifting... Probably the hardest to do consistently...

As B mentioned, the electronic controllers today are way faster than us... And for the hard headed folks like me that prefer a manual trans in my car, well... They are the way to faster times and more consistent runs...
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:27 AM   #1828
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Here are a few pictures of Brandi taken by a professional photographer. There were as you will see two cars, the second one being Booger belonging to Da Hose. I wish to thank Kyle Gilmour for arranging the photographer.
what kind of wing is that?
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:29 AM   #1829
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It looses all possible boost, but R compensates by ripping out a huge methanol fart directly to the turbo intakes... Sorry, had a Mental Squad relapse...
I'm rapidly approaching the mental squad standard... I'm sliding off a steep mountain into a really big gutter...

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I can't even look at his avatar anymore....



I know you've dealt with worse in your career...
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:31 AM   #1830
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what kind of wing is that?
It's the GMPP blade or Dovetail spoiler... There are two versions available... With or without the tail light... Mine has the light, DrJekyl doesn't... Not sure the user name is spelled correctly...
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:34 AM   #1831
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There are a couple of ways to address this...
1. Deal with the dip in boost... As you lift to shift, the air flow through the motor diminishes, and consequently you loose boost... Not necessarily a bad thing as coming off the clutch at full power can blow the tires off... Loss of traction and it's inherent problems.... Bear in mind right now on my street tires, I can do a 110 mph burnout.... Now add 400-500 more hp... The dip in boost allows you time to set the tires with traction as you spool back up... Which with the size turbos I have, and 427 cubic inches is almost immediately...
2. Use a no lift shift box... If I understand it correctly is a hard rev limiter box that allows you to keep the throttle on the floor while shifting, and it cuts out whatever is necessary to prevent over revving the motor... Don't quote me on that as I'm still learning about it... I think some people call it a stutter box, and the only time I saw someone using one on these cars the motor cratered due to using it wrong....it's supposed to be used and started after the burnout, and this one was engaged for the burnout... mental error is all. I'm not bad mouthing the person it happened to, lord knows it could happen to me just ad easily...but with what we have in these motors, mental errors are very very costly...it's the nature of the beast....cubic dollars and green hp....not environmentally green either...
3. Learn to do partial lift shifts... Where instead of coming completely off the gas, you just lift enough to keep from over revving the motor while shifting... Probably the hardest to do consistently...

As B mentioned, the electronic controllers today are way faster than us... And for the hard headed folks like me that prefer a manual trans in my car, well... They are the way to faster times and more consistent runs...
4. Buy 4L80 manual shift transmission.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:39 AM   #1832
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4. Buy 4L80 manual shift transmission.
Yeah there's that as well... Ild rather be known as a skilled driver in a fast car than a point and shoot freeloader... Step on the gas, steer, done.... Yes I realize you have to bump that lil lever every once in a while....
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:41 AM   #1833
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...And for the hard headed folks like me that prefer a manual trans in my car, well... They are the way to faster times and more consistent runs...


Looks like theres going to be at least 2 of us TT M6's running the mile this year!
I wanted that AMS1000 controller; guess I'll see the results with yours and may upgrade before March.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:41 AM   #1834
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Yeah there's that as well... Ild rather be known as a skilled driver in a fast car than a point and shoot freeloader... Step on the gas, close eyes, squeal like a school girl, steer, done.... Yes I realize you have to bump that lil lever every once in a while....
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:43 AM   #1835
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Looks like theres going to be at least 2 of us TT M6's running the mile this year!
I wanted that AMS1000 controller; guess I'll see the results with yours and may upgrade before March.
Cool, looking forward to meeting you there...
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:44 AM   #1836
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Fixed it for you.

Thanks Boss man....
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:55 AM   #1837
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I'm rapidly approaching the mental squad standard... I'm sliding off a steep mountain into a really big gutter...

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I know you've dealt with worse in your career...
LMAO yes... I've known a few guys who can clear a room...

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Old 11-16-2011, 12:05 PM   #1838
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Yeah there's that as well... Ild rather be known as a skilled driver in a fast car than a point and shoot freeloader... Step on the gas, steer, done.... Yes I realize you have to bump that lil lever every once in a while....
That's cool...stick to your principles...but you may also be known as a slow driver.
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:25 PM   #1839
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#1 sounds the best.
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That's cool...stick to your principles...but you may also be known as a slow driver.
maybe.... but as long as I'm in front of you, that's ok...

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#1 sounds the best.
certainly better than number # 4...
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:07 PM   #1841
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That's cool...stick to your principles...but you may also be known as a slow driver.
slow....... at 200 mph????
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Well yeah, he only corners at 199.
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Well yeah, he only corners at 199.
right up until I get Pedderized, then I'll just chuck the brake pedal out the window....









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maybe.... but as long as I'm in front of you, that's ok...
We both know that isn't happening, but at least you'll have an excuse. I can see it now.

"I lost, but that's because I'm a skilled driver and use a clutch. All you have to do is click your shifter forward twice."
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We both know that isn't happening, but at least you'll have an excuse. I can see it now.

"I lost, but that's because I'm a skilled driver and use a clutch. All you have to do is click your shifter forward twice."
Feel like the guy in a lounge chair stuck between youz too guyz. Kinda like watching a tennis match at center court. Banter - it's healthy.
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Feel like the guy in a lounge chair stuck between youz too guyz. Kinda like watching a tennis match at center court. Banter - it's healthy.
I have no built in excuses, what are you going to respond with when I smoke your butt... uhhhhh....I mis-clicked my shifter....
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Feel like the guy in a lounge chair stuck between youz too guyz. Kinda like watching a tennis match at center court. Banter - it's healthy.
Yes it is, but he's losing just like he will when we line up next to each other...
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I have no built in excuses, what are you going to respond with when I smoke your butt... uhhhhh....I mis-clicked my shifter....
I'll just say that I was honored that you spent thousands of dollars to make hundreds more horsepower just so you could beat me.
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