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Old 01-07-2011, 10:39 PM   #76
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I like it ! I am impressed with the Et's ...... The fatty is no slouch.......
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:43 PM   #77
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That being said I've not driven a coupe or convertible yet. Is the A-pillar that bad in the coupe or is it a 'oh hey' when you first drive and then you learn how to work through it.
Visibility is fine in this car. That A-pillar is no worse than any other new car on the road today thanks to rollover mandates and side-curtain airbags. As far as I've noticed, the majority of owners say it takes a few miles of getting used to...but you do get used to it, and then its fine.

But your 'bad' and my 'bad' may be different, so I encourage you to test drive one and see for yourself!
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:09 PM   #78
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Kudo's to GM for the vert and the positive write up. No its not for me but to have the option of buying one as apposed to going the Ford, BMW etc... route is well worth it. Its all about options, thank god not everyone has the same taste! Wouldn't it suck if everyone drove a Camaro Coupe?
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:09 PM   #79
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I can't wait to see a Z28 convertible!
This I don't understand.

GM is offering a 6.2L V8 drop top with a 6-speed, and you're waiting for them to slap a Z28 badge on the side?
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:13 PM   #80
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:33 PM   #81
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I hate to disappoint...I don't think you'll see a convertible Z28. For the same reason you can't get a targa top on a Z06. They’d have to put another brace or add more to the frame to control flex which would result in even more loss in performance.

I wish they had incorporated a fiberglass panel to cover the top like most companies have migrated to.

Still happy with my coupe!!!
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:51 AM   #82
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That being said I've not driven a coupe or convertible yet. Is the A-pillar that bad in the coupe or is it a 'oh hey' when you first drive and then you learn how to work through it. I'm going to be calling some dealers and doing the V6 vs V8 comparison (fuel mileage concerns) but otherwise is this motor trend being motor trend (they hated my TT too, and my A4 Cabriolet, clearly they let someone who hates convertibles drive both)
The forward visibility isn't bad, but if you plan on taking corners the pillars are annoying. Any left corner over 45 degrees will make you lean to the passenger side or towards your window to see the road, right turns are not so bad. Rear visibility is bad but that is almost any sports coupe.

Depending on how tall you are, wearing a helmet without reclining the seat (which makes the dash overwhelming) might be necessary. I suggest a Simpson X bandit or something from the Simpson line that fits close to the head. Ricky Bobby head gear will not work if your Ricky Bobby size...

There is always the Ace Ventura option but hard to do while wearing a seat belt.
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Old 01-08-2011, 02:29 AM   #83
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I'd say almost completely irrelevant for 90+% of Camaro buyers, hardtop or not.
Exactly. If this car was built for and marketed to just those people who want to race the thing, it would have been built in one trim only - 1SS coupe - and it would have fell flat on its face.

Contrary to what the performance purists seem to want to believe, the Camaro was never designed to be just for people who want to autocross or go around a track. Sure, the most famous ones could do that, but that didn't make the other models and trims illegitimate. Convertibles (and V6's, the only thing the purists hate more than convertibles) have always been part of the lineup, and there's no reason for it to not be now. For that 90%, the Camaro is more about affordable performance and looking good while doing it, it's about making the engine roar accelerating up an on-ramp all the way to the blistering speed of... 5-10mph over the speed limit? Most of the SS owners probably aren't going 0-60 as fast as the V6 does it at every light anyway, and most of the V6's are doing it as slow as the Challenger SE - so how many among that part of the buying population is REALLY going to notice if the convertible is a tiny bit slower? At the risk of being tossed out of the forum for heresy, dare I say that for most SS owners, the ones who own it to cruise around in it rather than regularly smoke Mustangs at a track, that 400+hp may be pretty blatant overkill?

But who cares? In every form this car is a lot of fun, no two ways about it. For the hardcore performance junkies, there will be the Z28, and there is the body-in-white (because when performance rules, nothing less will do right?). For the rest of us, there are lots of options depending on our own tastes and environment and budgets. Just like it always has been with the Camaro.

And for my part, I think the convertible looks great! Not so much with the top up, but that's true of any convertible. The trunk space thing is no big deal - I've nearly talked some relatives of mine into getting a Camaro convertible to replace their Miata, and when I told them about the trunk space complaints for the Camaro they laughed! The XM antenna is another thing that doesn't really bother me - it's a goofy location, but I don't like it any more on the coupe where I think it's even more prominent and not paint-matched, so who am I to split hairs. On the other hand, the way the top-down look exaggerates the coke-bottle shape of those big hips looks ridiculously cool.

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Old 01-08-2011, 03:03 AM   #84
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What? they didn't say an word on the car's SUN ROOF? lol
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Old 01-08-2011, 03:56 AM   #85
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Haters gonna hate.

I live in Phoenix, enough said. The top would have been down for me today. March/April can't come soon enough!
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Old 01-08-2011, 07:20 AM   #86
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As long as it doesnt come with Z28 on it, I think its a home run.

Will we ever see a Synergy Green Convert though?
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Old 01-08-2011, 07:29 AM   #87
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Like I tried to say in our trip thread..........if you like convertibles and you like Camaros you'll love the Camaro convertible.

There is no convincing anyone who doesn't like convertibles to like this.

"It looks bad with the top up" - of course it does. You'll never get the lines even in a hardtop convertible. I'll say it here - no convertible looks as good as the coupe WITH THE TOP UP. JMO

I'll recap our trip from Thanksgiving - "there isn't anything that comes close to driving this car on a warm night with the top down, your significant other in the passenger seat and some nice music on the radio". This car was so fun I rarely implimented the L99. Could have easily been an LT.

If convertibles were that great, they wouldn't come in coupes. So all you guys that keep wanting to say you hate it and it's not for you..........you are right. That is why there is also a coupe. For some the trade offs to have an easily removable top are worth the experience of open air motoring. For others it isn't.

No one is trying to convince you "haters" that this car is better than your coupe. It's just a different flavor of an excellent car.

Now here is what I don't see............do you "haters" at least understand why we like convertibles so much?

And they aren't "for women" by the way. They are simply for folks that love open air motoring. It's why we have a Sky Redline in the garage. It's just that enjoyable to drive with the top down. The top in Sky is rarely up.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:49 AM   #88
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"Our early build tester arrived during what's been called the "storm of the decade" for Los Angeles and, naturally, the roof leaked in two places along the windshield header. As if that wasn't enough, the rear window decided to dislodge itself from the soft top. Is this really the same top supplier that builds the Corvette Convertible's roof?"

I hope the roof leaked only because it was a pre-production model. Even after 21 years, our Miata never leaks! ...and it's the original roof.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:07 AM   #89
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I disagree with them... I think the Coupe looks better
Absolutely. I actually laughed out loud when I read the part about how it looks so much better, and specifically how the roof looks better. I am on the other side of the country from my '10 SS but before I left my house I just stood in my garage staring at my car. The rear quarter view with the flared quarter panels, and the way the roof comes down, the quarter windows, the double-bubble roof (yay no sunroof) and even the trunk line are all striking. The convertible takes all of that away.

Still, I can't wait to rent one next time I go back home to Hilo! Wonder when/if they will hit the rental car circuit at least in small batches. I used to rent Camaros every time going home..

I saw a V6 Camaro that looked like my SS bombing down the 495 in the snow and ice on the way into Manhattan last week and I almost asked the taxi driver to try to follow the car...

EDIT: Crap, I just read some of the other posts and realize that by not saying "OMG IT'S SOFA KING OSSUM" I will be categorized as a convertible hater. I am definitely not, and I cannot wait to drive both the V6 and SS models. I just don't think it looks better than the Coupe is all. My car before the SS was an '02 Toyota MR2 Spyder.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:19 AM   #90
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Yeah, I get it. Some don't like convertibles. That's just fine. I own a coupe, last Camaro was a convertible.

I like them both. If you haven't driven any great amount of time in a 'vert, then i really don't get your constant slamming of a convertible.

You like racing or autocrossing , well, just ducky. It doesn't make you any better than anyone who isn't into it.

The Camaro is a mass marketed automobile. We have economy oriented models, we have performance oriented models, we will soon have open air cars, and a much higher performance model. Something for everyone, something for a broad range of tastes, and a damn good looking car, where ever you are in this market.

The MT article is pretty damn complimentary. It will help boost sales.

Haven't seen much in the way of why so many get so damn upset about this next step in the life stream of the Camaro.

Keep improving the Car GM. keep building in the quality Oshawa Team!

I have mine, I love the Car! I love the performance! It is pretty much, the fulfillment of what I dreamed of when I was kid!
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:03 PM   #91
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nice,good looking car,im sure they will sell like hot cakes (as the saying goes)i plan to get the tower brace for my coupe,but not available yet

You can get it now.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:05 PM   #92
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Just not a big fan of this vert, I'll stick with my coupe.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:06 PM   #93
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I still think the XM antenna looks horrible there.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:30 PM   #94
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This article is a great distraction while I wait for mine.


My convertible is in the queue waiting to be built. Status 3400
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:27 AM   #95
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Where does the supercharger go???
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 AM   #96
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Old 01-09-2011, 09:08 AM   #97
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Amazing how the color of a car can change the body lines so dramatically. This Fire Red car looks 10 times better than the lazar red (metallic cinnamon) car by a long shot And I liked that one the first time i saw it as well.

Top up....top down...full spped...half speed, I still like it. It's gonna look BAD with a cage...And mean in a GOOD way
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:21 AM   #98
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Id like to take this time to personally thank the 217,374 people who have posted at various times the simplistic comment "I don't like it." Because, it wasn't until that last 217,374th time I read it, that that incredible, bullet proof arguement convinced me that after waiting 9 yrs to purchase a Camaro convertible I was inevitably wrong! I mean, who can argue with that? "I don't like it"- brilliant, genius!!!!!!

Oops, dealer says its too late, mines being built next week... too bad for me... "I don't like it"... brilliant!!!!!

Please ppl- just cuz you don't, others do. Redundant comments make it a pain to browse the forums....
So, are you saying opinions only count if you like the vehicle? Perhaps, some of the feedback will make it a better vehicle for all you vert lovers.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:37 AM   #99
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Why would you? you live way up north!



I've owned two convertibles in my life time and it is nice to drive around with the top down.
For me though, it gets old...and I stopped using it.
But when I first bought a convertible..top was always down..except when it rained. I didn't care if it was 20º outside..top was down and had heater on full blast
Detroit is further north than where I live so, let's not get into the ignorant Canadian weather debate.
The analogy of a car with no roof is like a house without proper support beams. Once you cut the roof off the vehicle you simply lose a very large portion of the stability. Why would someone pay for that?
The article clearly shows that the vehicle without the roof now weighs in more than the coupe because they have to put numerous support braces all over the vehicle to compensate for the lack of a missing roof.
So personally for me, I could never "understand" why someone would pay for a less performing "muscle" car.
If we were commenting on a vert BMW, or Mercedes, then I would understand, but not on a Vette or Camaro. But, then again, it's obvious vert lovers aren't purchasing the vehicle for performance.
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I hope they fix the leaks before I get mine. Me and my wife had a bad accident last July on our Harley.I broke my neck and I am still recovering. my wife is OK. We sold what was left of our Harley and purchased a convertible so this will be just our summer ride but we do take some long trips (5000 miles plus) so I hope we don't get wet.
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