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Old 01-26-2009, 08:47 PM   #1
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Launch Control, No-lift, New Zeta II platform, Stability Control, Traction Control

Seriously, what do all these things do. I've been driving a Nissan Frontier 4x4 for the last 6 years, so I don't know what they do.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:08 PM   #2
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Launch control - when engaged allows you to perform smoother launches. Basically you turn it on, mash the gas to the floor and it will control the throttle so that you get a decent launch. Many people feel that a good driver can outperform this automated method.

No-lift shift - shifting without releasing the gas. Allows for quicker shifting. I don't think the Camaro has this one.

New Zeta II platform - a bit of an adulteration as it's really still the Zeta platform with some enhancements versus a full new platform. This is the underlying chassis and suspension system of the Camaro. It was originally developed in Australia by GM's Holden division and has been used in the G8 here. It's been recognized as a very good platform however due to economic circumstances will probably end with the Camaro.

traction control - the car electronically manages the power to the wheels to keep them from spinning.

stability control - basicalyl traction control but for keeping the car from going sideways when turning. you can disable this and traction control in the camaro for times when you do want the tires to spin
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I am probably not the guy to answer these questions, but I will give you some links to fill in the gaps.

Launch Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_control_(automotive)

No-lift Shift You can keep your foot on the throttle the whole time you shift and it keeps the RPM's in the right range for the next gear.

Zeta II - platform the camaro is built on. Minor changes to the zeta platform (by Holden) and that is used in the G8 and some Vauxhall cars in Europe.

Traction Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_control_system

Stability Control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...bility_control

All of these are cool, but I haven't seen anywhere that says we get them all. Particularly the no-lift (used on the Cobalt SS).
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:11 PM   #4
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You beat me to it.
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Cool. Thanx! But what does "launch" mean? Take off from zero...stop light?
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:22 PM   #6
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Cool. Thanx! But what does "launch" mean? Take off from zero...stop light?
Typically drag strip but yea.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:25 PM   #7
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Cool. Thanx! But what does "launch" mean? Take off from zero...stop light?

You Didn't hear?... the old Camaro could turn into a robot but the 2010 production model has a special feature that when applied you can actually lift off from the earth's atmosphere and take it to the moon or any of the closest planets. A more fuel efficient model has been required by CAFE for 2012 that is supposed to travel to the sun and back on one tank of fuel!
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You Didn't hear?... the old Camaro could turn into a robot but the 2010 production model has a special feature that when applied you can actually lift off from the earth's atmosphere and take it to the moon or any of the closest planets. A more fuel efficient model has been required by CAFE for 2012 that is supposed to travel to the sun and back on one tank of fuel!
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Launch control is for people who can't drive, any real American rev those RPM's and DUMP THAT CLUTCH

and with that POS T6060 it might be a epic fail button lol............that's gonna come back to bite me
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:29 PM   #10
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Launch control is your electric throttle body and traction control working together to prevent the drive wheels slipping.

If you know what your doing you can do clutch less shifting, but no lift shift takes out the part of you knowing how to do it.

Traction control is like ABS on ice when stopping, but reversed. Stability control stops wheel slipping on turns. Basically both will prevent a wheel from moving significantly faster than the others using the ABS module. When one wheel is turning faster than the others ABS will slow it down to the correct speed. You probably can't do a donut when these are features are on.

ABS(anti-lock brakes) prevent wheel lockup by rapidly pumping the brakes faster than humanly possible, it also will massage your foot.

added that in case you didn't know what ABS was.

When I get mine I'll see if I can do a donut with these on. Then I'll do it with them off. Just need to find a good isolated parking lot.
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No-lift shift - shifting without releasing the gas. Allows for quicker shifting. I don't think the Camaro has this one.

I do believe the SS manual will have no-lift shift, but not LS/LTs. Just keep the pedal to the floor and punch the clutch when you want to shift. It keeps the engine RPMs steady at the point you hit the clutch, so you don't redline it in that instant with the gas pedal all the way down.
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I do believe the SS manual will have no-lift shift, but not LS/LTs. Just keep the pedal to the floor and punch the clutch when you want to shift. It keeps the engine RPMs steady at the point you hit the clutch, so you don't redline it in that instant with the gas pedal all the way down.
That's interesting. Have you seen this written somewhere? I have searched around and can't find comfirmation on it.

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that's the way it works on the Cobalt SS, but i've heard it ain't offered on the Camaro yet
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Besides what has been said, launch control holds the promise of predictable launches from a dead stop.

This theoretically negates the variables of throttle and clutch timing when launching to prevent overpowering the rear axle when launching, or otherwise making minor mistakes when letting the clutch "bite" as you raise the revs on the engine.

Those that are veterans of driving a manual transmission in drag racing conditions state it is a hinderence. Those that are inexperienced with manual launches of a powerful V8 might benefit from this assistance, until they grow beyond its predictability.

One can interpolate from there.
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How do you turn on the launch control on the Camaro?? Is it the same as the traction control button?
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it's in one of the DIC menus. the traction control is a separate system
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Launch control is for people who can't drive, any real American rev those RPM's and DUMP THAT CLUTCH

and with that POS T6060 it might be a epic fail button lol............that's gonna come back to bite me
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Launch control is for people who can't drive, any real American rev those RPM's and DUMP THAT CLUTCH

and with that POS T6060 it might be a epic fail button lol............that's gonna come back to bite me
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You Didn't hear?... the old Camaro could turn into a robot but the 2010 production model has a special feature that when applied you can actually lift off from the earth's atmosphere and take it to the moon or any of the closest planets. A more fuel efficient model has been required by CAFE for 2012 that is supposed to travel to the sun and back on one tank of fuel!

I'll bet you could come up with an interesting definition of the dead pedal too.
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I while back I asked this question too but dont think there is No-Lift Shift on any of the Camaro's trim levels. The reason for a No-Lift Shift is to keep up the boost up on a turbo when shifting. The Camaro doesn't have a turbo right now.

Also, doesn't the stability control brake in individual wheels to keep the car straight?
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Launch control is for people who can't drive, any real American rev those RPM's and DUMP THAT CLUTCH

and with that POS T6060 it might be a epic fail button lol............that's gonna come back to bite me
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I am amused that most people have stopped even reading or replying to your post and yet you continue. Do yourself a favor and lose the "master V8 tuner" thing and stop reminding us you like Dodge but spend all day on the Camaro forum. I'm sorry to get off topic and be so blunt but it's realy starting to get old. Seriously, I don't like sounding so rude but come on.
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I hope the Camaro doesn't have no-lift-shift. It ruins the fun. Let me explain: You wouldn't be able to rev the car up while its moving, dump the clutch and drift around a corner.
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I hope the Camaro doesn't have no-lift-shift. It ruins the fun. Let me explain: You wouldn't be able to rev the car up while its moving, dump the clutch and drift around a corner.
I think you can turn it off.
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I while back I asked this question too but dont think there is No-Lift Shift on any of the Camaro's trim levels. The reason for a No-Lift Shift is to keep up the boost up on a turbo when shifting. The Camaro doesn't have a turbo right now.

Also, doesn't the stability control brake in individual wheels to keep the car straight?
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I think you can turn it off.
I would think that the Camaro doesn't have no lift shift because it is for maintaining boost as stated above, but if it was, and if was like the cobalt ss, it would kick in at a set rpm, probably around 5500 rpm or so and set rpm to proper level for engaging clutch and it will only hold this for approximately 3/10 of a second if I remember correctly.
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