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Old 01-14-2011, 09:50 PM   #376
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Could be. Either way they're friggin' WIDE......which alone will help to put the performance of it over the top.

Yeah I just looked again at the spy shots of that Z28(HP), they do look wicked in the back. I wonder what those replacement tires are going to run, oh well its only money.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:51 PM   #377
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It was called a Z/28 from it's very first presentation to the automotive press in 1967 (October of that year I think). So it was called and named Z/28 from the day it was announced, it took a while before they decided to put emblems on them, originally in '67/'68 the wide "rally stripes" were Z/28 only, so they felt no need to put emblems on them. Eventually the stripes could be ordered on any Camaro.
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Rally stripes only came on Z/28s, Z10s, and Z11s.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:53 PM   #378
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You forgot convertible, first gen. Z/28s could not be ordered as a vert. Though there was one built for Pete Estes, who if I remember correctly was a Chevy VP back in the day.
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The convertible was a model not an option. UPC C05 was used to indicate the top color when a convertible was ordered.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:01 PM   #379
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Yeah I just looked again at the spy shots of that Z28(HP), they do look wicked in the back. I wonder what those replacement tires are going to run, oh well its only money.
A set of Goodyear Eagle F1 are about 1600, and Michelin PS2s are roughly 1850....not cheap by any means....
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:14 PM   #380
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A set of Goodyear Eagle F1 are about 1600, and Michelin PS2s are roughly 1850....not cheap by any means....
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:17 PM   #381
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It's only about double the price of a set of shoes for the SS!!

How does that saying go, "you've got to pay to play"? If this is true, I guess I can feel a little glad that they offer such huge wheels and tires from the factory, there's much less need to go aftermarket for wide rubber.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:23 PM   #382
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It's only about double the price of a set of shoes for the SS!!

How does that saying go, "you've got to pay to play"? If this is true, I guess I can feel a little glad that they offer such huge wheels and tires from the factory, there's much less need to go aftermarket for wide rubber.
Hey I just noticed your from Buffalo NY, I grew up in Syracuse NY as a kid, and all I remember is snow from my childhood
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:47 PM   #383
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I think I will sell my car by this summer & then save up to get a new Z-28. Its would be just too hard knowing its a supercharged camaro from the factory with all the upgrades I want to do to my car already done. Plus It wont be too many models on the road because the new bodystyle will likely be in by 2014. Its a win win for me
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:23 PM   #384
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not sure about the ZL1 moniker, this is from the SLP website...they are building only 69 of these to commemorate the ZL1 of 1969????? http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl1/
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:27 PM   #385
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not sure about the ZL1 moniker, this is from the SLP website...they are building only 69 of these to commemorate the ZL1 of 1969?????
Yep, I would think that lends some credence to the claim that SLP owns the ZL1 name....

(On a side note, I'm glad to see they opted to work on the front facia...but I wish they would have been a little more original.....)
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yeah kind of looks like all of the other "suspected" Z/28 or HP edition camaro sketches we have seen on this site for the past year? Some originality might have scored them some points.
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:35 AM   #388
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Rally stripes only came on Z/28's, Z10's, ans Z'11's.
You are correct, the stripes were made available on the Z10 and Z11 Indy Pace Car versions.
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:39 AM   #389
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The convertible was a model not an option. UPC C05 was used to indicate the top color when a convertible was ordered.
Call it what you will, convertible was available in any version from 6cyl. to SS396, it was not available on the Z/28 and was specifically listed as one of "things" that could not be ordered on a Z/28.
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Back In July I posted this about the Z/28 intro

It was VP Stracke being quoted that the Z/28 WOULD be introduced on the ALPHA platform. So, is the HP Edition just bridging the gap until that time or are they going to intro ALPHA early like RHLMARINE stated on post 368.? Still the biggest open issue of the thread! And I believe when you take comments from "those in the know", we are getting the BRIDGE EDITION (unless we are all surprized)... due to fact Ford is making so many leaps. I would love to see ALPHA come out early for what its worth... (with full testing of course)...


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Yep, I would think that lends some credence to the claim that SLP owns the ZL1 name....

(On a side note, I'm glad to see they opted to work on the front facia...but I wish they would have been a little more original.....)
Especially for 80K.... PLUS the cost of your car.

How could GM let the ZL1 name get away?
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Especially for 80K.... PLUS the cost of your car.

How could GM let the ZL1 name get away?
Well they didn't really let it get away. SLP has been and continues to be a big help to GM. I would say that although they would rather have it to themselves it's in good hands. Without SLP the 4th gen wouldn't ever have even had an SS.
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No complaints regarding SLP. I've just envisioned a super Camaro ZL1 just as the concept car in 2000.

9.4L V8 770/683 0-60 2.7 top speed 230 MPH. I lusted over that car for years......
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Old 01-15-2011, 10:37 AM   #394
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OOOoooohhhh... That makes sense. That makes my appreciate of Becky sharing the information even greater! Were you at the meeting?

No, my GM and owner were. They were very tight about taking pictures but info was flowing and circulating.

Becky is spot on with all the info and it's greatly appreciated.
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After you pay sales tax I Guarantee you'll be OVER $60K out the door.
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Old 01-15-2011, 10:59 AM   #396
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I know I'm breaking with tradition here, but I really do not care what they call it. The rebirth of the Chevrolet Camaro has been a smashing success. The Camaro brand is as strong as ever. I could see GM developing some other, maybe new, brand with this new High HP model. The car makes the brand name. The brand name has NEVER made the car. We have witnessed this throughout history with car companies applying iconic brand names to sub-par automobiles in the late 70's, 80's and 90's. I think this High HP version of the Camaro is going to be awesome, and I am sure the product team will get the brand right. The car will make whatever they brand it as iconic. I can't wait for it to get here!!!
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The price mark up will be insane on the new Z28 as dealers know how much Camaro fans have anticipated it's arrival. If I were to buy one I'd wait a while an let the "overpricing" period pass.
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The price mark up will be insane on the new Z28 as dealers know how much Camaro fans have anticipated it's arrival. If I were to buy one I'd wait a while an let the "overpricing" period pass.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:07 PM   #399
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As reported on HOMEPAGE.

This just in from BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet, who has just attended a National Chevrolet Dealer's meeting where among other things, the upcoming "Camaro Z28" or "HP Edition" model was confirmed and discussed!

Here are the confirmed details from the meeting:
  • Production begins January 1, 2012
  • Internally referred to as the "HP Edition" model (it was not actually referred to as "Z28" during the meeting)
  • 6.2L supercharged engine
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  • Hood design to have louvre/slat design seen in spy photos (dealers in attendance were shown a gray Z28 model)
  • Slight (not major) updates to the interior, with some brighter trimwork

As for the 2012 Camaro generally, the 45th anniversary edition (which we discussed here) will be for both coupe and convertible models. It will come in carbon flash color with all black interior and unique wheels.
adman, you need to censor, this makes the 2011 5.0 Mustang look bad....
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I think what I most excited about is the magnetic ride suspension.
I can't wait to feel it first hand, since no one will let me test drive a cts-v or corvette with it.
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