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Old 01-13-2011, 05:48 PM   #151
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HEY!... I live amongst those bug eaters!!! They hated when I'd open the cutout and my LTs left a nice, straight shot for my LS1 to scream around the neighborhood. They didn't like the tiresmoke coming off the driveway either...
Yea I forgot you had to live among them... Unfortunately it's not a whole lot better here down south. I have one of those tofu burger hybrid driving self righteous tree hugging clowns that lives in my neighborhood. He cornered me in a parking lot in a pansy-mobile not that long ago and started to chastise me about not caring about the environment and why would I drive such a loud monstrosity of a vehicle, to which I replied by turning on my car and yelling over the roar as she fired up, so I don't have to listen to schmucks like you.

Just cause they think they screwed up the environment does not mean that I should not get to have just as much fun as they did.

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Honestly [and perhaps I'm being biased] the MS on the Z06 (with Z07 package) and ZR1 is more effective/superior than the one in Ferrari, due to it's nature to put TQ down to ground. MS comes in very handy at launch time, like GT-R MS. I took a ride in the new Z06/7 and it's take off is more productive than without the MS. This alone will kill the GT500 in the race with the new Z28.

Ah, the only thing this car misses, is a true forged piston and rods. That's where I envy GT500. BTW, GT500 for MY2013 (production in 2012) will get the TVS2300 @ 600HP.
What about a road course though? That's what I am more interested in.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:53 PM   #153
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Meetings over...great info about lot's of
dealer stuff and ways Chevy is improving the buying
and ownership experience

We were shown a picture of a new Impala Sedan
no real info about any specs or timeline to build it but it was
really sharp!!

The GM Brass was really proud of the sales of Camaro over
Mustang and said many times, this is only the beginning!!
There was no mention of pricing with the HP model. Fbodfather
said the interior changes were not dramatic and he's right. It
looked more refined with some bright trim work, but the pics
flashed pretty quickly. No camera's were allowed. I was trying
to take as many notes as I could. The car looked awesome,
but again the pics went by pretty quickly.

The biggest surprise was it being called the "HP Edition" and no
mention of the Z28. Fbodfather has always said "what Z28?"

I was really exciting to be there and can't wait til 1/1/12 for
production There's no info for ordering at this time,
but stay tuned

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Old 01-13-2011, 05:57 PM   #155
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:07 PM   #156
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Think about it... with the Boss 302 coming out what is GM's proper reply? Z/28!
Yet this HP Edition is more of a Shelby GT500 competitor, right?
Your thoughts...
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:18 PM   #157
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:18 PM   #158
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Ok.........


...........let us repeat in unison:


WHAT Z28???


The script said nothing about "Z28"............
I imagine GM may just be doing two things:

1: Saving the hallowed Z/28 intro for the new platform (smaller, more nimble, new gen v8) I do recall some VP talking about the Z/28 intro coming with the new platform. So, by default that means 2014 or so.

2: STOP The current bleeding being given to the aftermarket boys by coming out with their of HP edition.... (thus using up alot of old parts on current V8 platform) and keep that share of the performance pie to themselves.


So, do you buy a GM HP version that has no Z/28 nameplate? hmmmmm. YESSSS!

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:19 PM   #159
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yea but ya know what milk they said the same thing about just the 2010 camaros coming out oh they wanna make sure they get it right blah blah blah thats a big excuse to me because it took forever for them and my iom ss along with many others has so many problems and paint flaws its not even funny makes me sick to my stomach.
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Ok.........


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WHAT Z28???


The script said nothing about "Z28"............
Having read some very intriguing posts in this thread, my impression and gut feeling is that Chevy MAY not be bringing back the Z-28 name after all for the Camaro 5. We have read and participated in much hype, speculation, gossip, and rumor for some time now. If in reality this comes to pass then I actually feel relieved! I am elated! Let it be the HP Edition then!!! Long live Chevy....long live the King! Retire the much vaunted and glorious Z-28 name.....it has a special place in Americana muscle car history and lure. It's a part of me, my fabric, and who I am. I was truely feeling squeezed about being able to get a new Z-28, I was getting a bit anxious because of the competition there was going to be in obtaining one of the limited few that would be available. If this was the S/C Z-28 558 HP or better reincarnation we were all expecting that was announced today I would have to absolutely, positively, no question about it have to get one. I can now sit back a bit, relax, and enjoy all this wonderfull news..at least for now while I dream about it...and look forward to all the wonder and excitement this new HP option will give us. And when and if Chevy does decide to bring back the exiled King Z-28, you know he's gonna kick a_ _ and take names!
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:23 PM   #161
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So, do you buy a GM HP version that has no Z/28 nameplate? hmmmmm.
big decision!
Exactly. I wasn't expecting this so now more to decide/think about.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:24 PM   #162
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Keep the profanity to yourself or don't post in this Community.

Allan - I'm sorry about deleting, but I couldn't stand the tone. It's one thing to express an opinion, but that just made me ill.

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:26 PM   #163
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What about a road course though? That's what I am more interested in.
The MS has an overall effect of gluing the car down even on twisters, but where it shines over your normal third party suspension upgrade, is it's launch mode that is tightly governed by the computer. If anyone gets the car with this option, then you don't want to go and mess with the shock or spring or lower the car. You will ruin the whole calibration that was designed to work with the software. I bet this will be an option rather than STD, since it adds a good amount of coins to the car.
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Honestly [and perhaps I'm being biased] the MS on the Z06 (with Z07 package) and ZR1 is more effective/superior than the one in Ferrari, due to it's nature to put TQ down to ground. MS comes in very handy at launch time, like GT-R MS. I took a ride in the new Z06/7 and it's take off is more productive than without the MS. This alone will kill the GT500 in the race with the new Z28.

Ah, the only thing this car misses, is a true forged piston and rods. That's where I envy GT500. BTW, GT500 for MY2013 (production in 2012) will get the TVS2300 @ 600HP.
Isn't it the same system (I thought I heard Ferrari traded the CF brakes for the MS...)? The one video I saw, recently, of a GT500 vs. a CTS-V Coupe seemed to really show a lot better bite, and I guess weight transfer, of the CTS-V's IRS. The shot wasn't really good, but it hooked a lot better than the GT500. I'm sure some of it had to do with the better tires, but I know those shocks will help. I do hope they're AT LEAST an option for Z28. It'd be a real shame if they weren't. I really believe Z28 needs them to make up for the weight it's probably going to gain.

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Yea I forgot you had to live among them... Unfortunately it's not a whole lot better here down south. I have one of those tofu burger hybrid driving self righteous tree hugging clowns that lives in my neighborhood. He cornered me in a parking lot in a pansy-mobile not that long ago and started to chastise me about not caring about the environment and why would I drive such a loud monstrosity of a vehicle, to which I replied by turning on my car and yelling over the roar as she fired up, so I don't have to listen to schmucks like you.

Just cause they think they screwed up the environment does not mean that I should not get to have just as much fun as they did.

Me... I don't trust air I can't see...
I just noticed where you live, LOL!!! I feel you though. Great story!!! They have no clue what they talk about much of the time. I'm sure he "green" car polutes more from cradle to grave than these cars ever will.

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #165
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As glad as I am that the Z/28 is returning and finally has a production date, can someone ask BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet about the much-rumored "Chevy G8....aka...Chevy SS sedan" and when it's due at chevy dealerships.
Yes please! Any word on this?
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They didn't let us down with the 2010's and I'm sure they won't with the Z or HP Model... whatever its called!!...
99% of us want a Z/28. If they come out with an HP model, I'm sure it WILL be an ultra refined and wonderful car. No doubt about it. I'm sure GM hates to see all those dollars going to Hennessey, SLP, Berger and on and on and on......

But I hope they do ONE more thing when they launch HP. Let the community know that when Gen6 arrives it will not revive the Z/28 name. If not on the HP model, lets retire the name for posterity forever. Can't we agree on that?

I'm on the buying list for the HP for sure. I just don't want to feel two years later that the HP verison was just "not the real one"
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The MS has an overall effect of gluing the car down even on twisters, but where it shines over your normal third party suspension upgrade, is it's launch mode that is tightly governed by the computer. If anyone gets the car with this option, then you don't want to go and mess with the shock or spring or lower the car. You will ruin the whole calibration that was designed to work with the software. I bet this will be an option rather than STD, since it adds a good amount of coins to the car.
I've been worrying about this... It looks like it has a great stance as it is, but I'd like adjustable coilovers, but I'm not going to argue any of that stuff is better, overall, for Z28. I wonder about swaybars...
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I still feel like releasing a 45th Anni edition- after breaking off production 8 years would just invite scorn from the Stang crowd.... And the rest of the logical Earth.
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Allan - I'm sorry about deleting, but I couldn't stand the tone. It's one thing to express an opinion, but that just made me ill.

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I still feel like releasing a 45th Anni edition- after breaking off production 8 years would just invite scorn from the Stang crowd.... And the rest of the logical Earth.
GOOD! I hope it does!!!

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Looks like I'll be trading in my '10 camaro!!
it'll probably only have 8500 miles by then.
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I've been worrying about this... It looks like it has a great stance as it is, but I'd like adjustable coilovers, but I'm not going to argue any of that stuff is better, overall, for Z28. I wonder about swaybars...
As you and I had discussed before, I think the only thing I'd add to this car, would be a CAI, pulley and a tune. And if that breaks my warranty, I won't touch the car. I'm tired of driving "new" cars with no warranty. Dealers laugh at me

Anyone who wants to modify the suspension, shouldn't opt for MS. It's either/or.
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Looks good, I get back from deployment December 2012, perfect timing. My next car will be kept forever, I'll have to see what the C7 looks like though too....
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I'm exited about this new model (whatever it will be called), but I'll be upset if they don't call it Z28. I know its just a name and that GM will come up with a good name for it so I'll just have to remember that all this z28 hype was created by us and that GM never even acknowledged this cars existence. I can't even afford an LS, so I guess I can't be too upset about a car I'll never afford. Looking foward to pics and final specs.
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