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Old 01-13-2011, 05:55 PM   #176
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As you and I had discussed before, I think the only thing I'd add to this car, would be a CAI, pulley and a tune. And if that breaks my warranty, I won't touch the car. I'm tired of driving "new" cars with no warranty. Dealers laugh at me

Anyone who wants to modify the suspension, shouldn't opt for MS. It's either/or.
I believe you're right. CB, CAI, tune, and maybe a pulley. There goes the warranty, lol!!! I feel the same as you though, LOL. They see $$$ when I drive up

Good to know. I was hoping that wasn't the case, but aren't too suprised.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:55 PM   #177
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So I don't want to start anything but how come no other dealership seems to know about this Z/28 news. I'm good friends with owners and salespeople at several Utah Chevrolet Dealerships and nobody knows anything.

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Am I the only one who thinks that "HP Edition" is a really stupid moniker. Kind makes it sound like "hey this edition has horsepower and the others don't". Idk I just don't like it.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:59 PM   #179
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:02 PM   #180
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I believe you're right. CB, CAI, tune, and maybe a pulley. There goes the warranty, lol!!! I feel the same as you though, LOL. They see $$$ when I drive up

Good to know. I was hoping that wasn't the case, but aren't too suprised.
They will probably do the same thing they did to the Cobalt SS/SC, give you an option to up the HP by adding a smaller pulley & belt, with new injectors and a tune... call it a Stage 1 or 2, depending on how they want to sell it and you can keep your warrantee.
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So I don't want to start anything but how come no other dealership seems to know about this Z/28 news. I'm good friends with owners and salespeople at several Utah Chevrolet Dealerships and nobody knows anything.

Explain that
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Camaro HP. I like the sound of it. I like break from the past (Z/28 was an internal code to begin with). I want it. I will buy it.

The MRC will be an awesome feature (option?). A possible side benefit of the MRC in the Camaro HP will be the possibility of adding this functionality to existing 2010/2011 SS models. A similar thing happened with the HUD - these were retrofitted to early production 5th gen Camaros in kit form.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:37 PM   #183
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how in the hell are they going to fit 330 in the rear with out it coming out over the rear 1/4 panel?
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #184
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Camaro HP. I like the sound of it. I like break from the past (Z/28 was an internal code to begin with). I want it. I will buy it.

The MRC will be an awesome feature (option?). A possible side benefit of the MRC in the Camaro HP will be the possibility of adding this functionality to existing 2010/2011 SS models. A similar thing happened with the HUD - these were retrofitted to early production 5th gen Camaros in kit form.

The original Z was just a normal Camaro with suspension upgrades
Kinda like the Z51 Corvette was just an internal code as well.

GS Corvette is now Z52
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:49 PM   #185
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:53 PM   #186
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I dont think this was supposed to be released to the general public. In all this detail. I sure hope someone didnt sign a agreement.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:54 PM   #187
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well just as I said last year...that the new "powerhouse" camaro should be the ZL1 that would compete with the GT500 and that the Z28 should have a lighter body and a high rev (maybe DI) 5.3L engine that would be focused on the BOSS 302..makes more heritage sense..guess that we will have to wait and see..I think that is what FBODFATHER is refering too when he said Z28 wasn't mentioned in the script
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:56 PM   #188
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Becky works for one of the best dealers in the country everybody. Every time I go into see her, she is on Camaro5. She is a Camaro fanatic just as we all are. You just don't see that kind of passion out of your typical dealer personnel. If you ever have the opportunity to buy a new Camaro, especially the new Z-28, or any Chevy product for that matter, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do yourself a favor and give her an opportunity to provide you with the best new car purchase experience of your life. She has bent over backwards for myself and I am confident that she would do the same for anybody else. Especially our Camaro5 family. Thanks for the Z-28 info Becky!!!
Ditto!

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:59 PM   #189
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They will probably do the same thing they did to the Cobalt SS/SC, give you an option to up the HP by adding a smaller pulley & belt, with new injectors and a tune... call it a Stage 1 or 2, depending on how they want to sell it and you can keep your warrantee.
OOOOooooo... I forgot about that! That little honey was forged, though, yes?... I'd totally bedown for that though!

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The original Z was just a normal Camaro with suspension upgrades
Kinda like the Z51 Corvette was just an internal code as well.

GS Corvette is now Z52
ZXX?
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:15 PM   #190
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I was under the impression that a vehicle produced in CY12 would be considered a MY13. If GM produces the Z28/HPE on the 1st of Janurary, 2012, it will roll off the line the same time as the 2013 Cobra. I have a feeling that it will be released as a 2013 Z28/HPE.

I would rather see the Z51 option over the MRC F55s, maybe they will reserve the Z51s for the real Z28. According to the ZO6 crowd, the MRC F55s actually over heat over extended road course duty. the F55s are also expensive and quite a heavy option vs. the Z51s.

with the 285/330 combo, the 12 inch wheel plus the 330 rubber would weigh close to 90lbs per wheel, thats almost 30lbs more over stock rears alone.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the convertible chassis strenghing techniques applied to this monster. From what I hear, the convertible's chassis treatment was spot on.

Either way, 2012 will be a big year for both... Ford will no doubt go all in with the SVT Cobra being its their 20th Anniversary and the last MY for the tired body style. Also, a good reason for GM to hold off on the HPE till 1 Jan, see if Ford will jump first.. details for the updated SE should be out around October/Novemeber 2011.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:25 PM   #192
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:26 PM   #193
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I think Scott might be toying with us
But if they do name it differently, I trust they will choose the name wisely.
Hmmmmmmmmm.....

Could it be that the SSX was the HP in cloak and dagger format at SEMA?
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:44 PM   #194
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One last thing: We are in the 21st century. CAFE for 2016 is 35.5mpg for the fleet - that includes Suburbans and Impalas and Silverados -- and the Administration in Washington is talking about raising CAFE to greater than 50mpg by 2021........

..........so anyone thinking that there will be a high performance V8 for a very inexpensive price - is going to be disappointed.
I'm confused as to how this is relevant for the current model (to be)? Or are you talking future iterations of v8 performance cars?
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There's no way this car is going to have 330 tires. No one even offers a 330 tire. I'm guessing it will be a 315 since it will have an 11 inch wide wheel.

Are we sure they are going to start production on a Sunday too?
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When Scott say's it's true, then I'll believe it.

Until then, speculation.
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I definately would have to see this car in its final production glory. Owning the "HP", I don't know if i'd be completely happy with it. I just don't want them releasing the Z/28 later on if it ends up happening after I already purchased the "HP Edition" Camaro.
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Am I the only one who thinks that "HP Edition" is a really stupid moniker. Kind makes it sound like "hey this edition has horsepower and the others don't". Idk I just don't like it.
Nope. I agree. I ordered '10 early, and if this car was going to be a Z28, I would be the first one lined up for it. If they call it the HP Edition, I'll skip it. Simple as that. Maybe its stupid to some people, but I'm out if they call it that. Hopefully we'll see a Z28 at some point. If not, the '10 and IROC will have to make due with each other.
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Everyone needs to calm down on the "HP Edition" moniker. This info was from the national dealer meeting and GM obviously doesn't want to let the name of this car out of the bag yet. This is obviously just a term they are using the describe the car at this time. The High Performance Edition. Do you really think that they would officially call it the "HP Edition"? Come on.
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