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View Poll Results: If the "HP edition" Camaro was called Z28:
Yes, I would still be interested in purchasing the car. 537 78.17%
No, I wouldn't buy it because that's not what I think it should be called. 150 21.83%
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:56 AM   #151
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hello....read the post! i just said the z28 was a race car for the streets! and sure it may have magnetic suspension....but nothings confirmed. this is all speculation. will the magnetic ride fix the understeer?
Understeer is added for safety reasons... It may understeer less, but it will understeer.
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It will be called the ZR1 Camaro with the LS9 and Magnetic Ride Control suspension and will be priced exactly half way between the 2SS Camaro and the CTS-V Cadillac.

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Old 01-16-2011, 08:24 AM   #152
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I want it to be Z28 as well.as for a boss killer,how bout taming the ssx just enough to make it street legal.One other possibility for a name could be 1LE.
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^^ the SSX. that may be possible the new name. SS-X.
you never know, as history recalls the first gen ss carried the big block 396 or 427 with big power, kinda simular to this. SS = ls3, SS-X = LSA/9(tvs1900/2300)
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:07 AM   #154
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I want it to be Z28 as well.as for a boss killer,how bout taming the ssx just enough to make it street legal.One other possibility for a name could be 1LE.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:19 AM   #155
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I think it shouldn't be called the Z28. As mentioned many times before, the Z was a beast, but a stripped down, all performance one that was affordable. From the sounds of this Camaro, it's not going to be affordable, it's going to be a loaded to the 9's beast.

For that reason, I say no. However, if it was made affordable, then I'd contemplate changing my vote.

Is it also possible they are working on a Z28 still? Or has this been confirmed not to be happening.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:27 AM   #156
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I think it shouldn't be called the Z28. As mentioned many times before, the Z was a beast, but a stripped down, all performance one that was affordable. From the sounds of this Camaro, it's not going to be affordable, it's going to be a loaded to the 9's beast.

For that reason, I say no. However, if it was made affordable, then I'd contemplate changing my vote.

Is it also possible they are working on a Z28 still? Or has this been confirmed not to be happening.
IF GM were to build a stripped down Z28, it would be in very low numbers and it would not be cheap. I don't see GM building anything stripped down to sell to the public.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:42 AM   #157
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Z-28 for sure.
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Old 01-16-2011, 10:03 AM   #158
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I don't care what it is called or will be called. If GM wants to name it something new and break from heritage then that will be fine. They will simply be adding another weapon to the arsenal. Call it a Mongoose, Panther or HiPer Edition or HP or whatever name they desire. All I know is that it will be badass and create it's own legacy.....and I will have one.
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Old 01-16-2011, 11:06 AM   #160
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The 1st gen. Z/28 was neither stripped down, nor was it, (in 1969 dollars) affordable.
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:13 PM   #162
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At this point, the thread and poll is all based on the ASSUMPTION that they're not sure what to call it. And that assumption comes from here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124078

The presenters never once mentioned the name "Z28" to attending dealers. It could be a marketing ploy....it could be an alias to preserve plausible deniability (What Z28? )...but just in case they weren't sure what to call it, I thought it would be interesting to hear what enthusiasts-at-large thought.



The more I think about it....and I've been thinking about it a lot, lately...it would be a HUGE mistake not to call this car a Z28. SLP has capitalized on the "ZLx" name, which rules out "ZL1" in my opinion...too much chance of confusion. And I don't think a car with this much interest can afford to be called something new. The heritage behind the Z28 name is monumental. I think the chances of yet another high-performance Camaro coming out for the 5th generation is slim-to-none...market interest and CAFE have seen to that....so if they don't use the Z28 name now....I'm afraid it'll never be used for a long time. Talk about a tragedy!!!

The argument against Z28 based solely on the first generation, I think is weak one. I mean, it's got some logic behind it...but what about every other generation of Camaro? I guess what I'm saying is that formulas change....who'd ever have thought the iconic Impala name would have been attached to a FWD car? But it has and one could argue successfully....

Still....this is all one big "What If"...and it's very interesting to see the pulse of the community on this subject.
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:29 PM   #163
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Z/28, no question if you ask me. if this car is not named Z/28, then it will be a while before they use that name again, if ever. too many ppl are excited about the Z/28, not a nameless beast-maro. they want the beast to be a Z/28. i dont have the money to buy this car, and wouldnt have it for a looong time. but if i did, id buy it either way, and if it wasnt called the Z, id just order some Z/28 logos and put them on myself. id want the Z, so id get the Z either way
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^^ the SSX. that may be possible the new name. SS-X.
you never know, as history recalls the first gen ss carried the big block 396 or 427 with big power, kinda simular to this. SS = ls3, SS-X = LSA/9(tvs1900/2300)
While there were regular production 396 BBs in the first gen. Camaro, there were no regular production 427 BBs, they were all COPO. And using the '69 model year, the SS350 sold 22,339 units while all of the 396 versions available sold a total of 13,970 units, almost two to one 350 vs 396. There was limited COPO production in the '68 model year with most of them going to Yenko. The '69 model year had four different 427 COPO packages available (not including the ZL1), when you add them together there were 1,084 427 COPOs built plus the ZL1 package which had 69 units built for a total of 1,953 427 COPOs. So what you propose might make some sense as compared to the first gen. history, now we need to wait and see what Chevrolet decides.
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The 1st gen. Z/28 was neither stripped down, nor was it, (in 1969 dollars) affordable.
It was at least as affordable as the SS Camaro in the first gen., usually more so since you did not have the added cost of auto tranny, vert, or AC. I could have bought either one as a twenty year old in 1969 (of course I was working a full time job and two part time ones), I chose the Z/28 based on it's performance.
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:10 PM   #166
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I think they should call it Z/28. Not Z28. Not HP Edition. Not some new name.


Its like a no brainer to me.

Magnetic ride control...sounds like its made for the twisties.
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:23 PM   #167
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Z28 yes or no i dont mind
The Z28 is its heritage ....its history, and history is made every day!
Maybe its time for the next chapter in Camaro history.
Maybe the the baddest Camaro ever made needs a new name? a name that we will remember 25 years from now? like the Z28 from the past.

We all have been screaming about a new Z28 since the new 5th gen, I think if GM was going to name this one the Z28 they would have in the recent dealer meeting instead of an "HP edition".
All we can do is wait, time will tell!
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:56 PM   #168
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My 1st inclination is "who cares what they call it with 550+ horse"! 67 Z/28 simply had hood and trunk stripes to differentiate. The RPO was Z28 and could be ordered with many other but not all options. The SS was top dog in the line up. I would simply make it a performance package option then drive another option with a track suspension (Z28). The track or Z28 option could be limited to the HP engine really making it special. Ordering a 67-69 Z meant disc brakes, better front swar bar, 4speed trans and different front/rear springs. The car laid low in stance and handled better than an SS Camaro.

Over time the Z28 became more and more appreciated. That 4x3 engine really screamed and made some decent HP above 5K RPM. RPO the LSA option then give us the chance to add a Z28 suspension with less understeer and better traction. I'm down for that!
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I wouldn't buy anything but a Z28 over an SS RS. That's what I want. If they don't come out with Z28 then I will buy a used 2010, S/C it and be done. I would have no payments. Screw HP edition without Z28 name.
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Personally, I'd love for GM to hold off on using the Z/28 name until the 6th gen. Due to the fact the I won't be able to purchase another auto till then. I just bought the 2010 and now it's the wife's turn to buy. And she won't entertain the thought of anything other than a Jeep. I'll have the 2010 paid off in 2013, just it time (hopefully) for the Alpha platform Z/28. But, I know that'll leave a bunch of people pissed.
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Personally, I'd love for GM to hold off on using the Z/28 name until the 6th gen. Due to the fact the I won't be able to purchase another auto till then. I just bought the 2010 and now it's the wife's turn to buy. And she won't entertain the thought of anything other than a Jeep. I'll have the 2010 paid off in 2013, just it time (hopefully) for the Alpha platform Z/28. But, I know that'll leave a bunch of people pissed.
I can live with that concept. After all... The original RPO Z28 was Special Performance Package. Perhaps, GM can make a new Special Performance Package on the Alpha platform with Corvette C7 engine in three years time. That would be cool... and it would be "Special" indeed.

HP Edition... just doesn't sound as impressive. I don't see anything "special" if it is just High Performance. We can call HP Edition... Z/27.

btw: Does any one know why there is a "/" between Z and 28?
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I can live with that concept. After all... The original RPO Z28 was Special Performance Package. Perhaps, GM can make a new Special Performance Package on the Alpha platform with Corvette C7 engine in three years time. That would be cool... and it would be "Special" indeed.

HP Edition... just doesn't sound as impressive. I don't see anything "special" if it is just High Performance. We can call HP Edition... Z/27.

btw: Does any one know why there is a "/" between Z and 28?
Z27 was the SS RPO
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:00 PM   #175
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I'm surprised at the number of people who would NOT buy if it wasn't called a Z28. Seriously, GM is about to give us a hoss of a perfomance machine and some of you guys are whining about the name. We not talking about performance we talkin about the name, not horse power but the name. Not about torque or handling but the name. Is the name that important?
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