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View Poll Results: If the "HP edition" Camaro was called Z28:
Yes, I would still be interested in purchasing the car. 537 78.17%
No, I wouldn't buy it because that's not what I think it should be called. 150 21.83%
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:02 PM   #176
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I'm surprised at the number of people who would NOT buy if it wasn't called a Z28. Seriously, GM is about to give us a hoss of a perfomance machine and some of you guys are whining about the name. We not talking about performance we talkin about the name, not horse power but the name. Not about torque or handling but the name. Is the name that important?
It would seem so.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:36 PM   #177
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I was thinking why does it even have to have a name? It could be a trim level (3SS) let's say exept it can be the only trim level with magnetic ride suspension and the standard engine(LSA, LS9) only available in that trim level. Or just make it a SS-V since more than half of the damn car will be shared with the CTS-V?
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I was thinking why does it even have to have a name? It could be a trim level (3SS) let's say exept it can be the only trim level with magnetic ride suspension and the standard engine(LSA, LS9) only available in that trim level. Or just make it a SS-V since more than half of the damn car will be shared with the CTS-V?
That sounds possible.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:50 PM   #179
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:55 PM   #180
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It would seem so.
One thing for sure... We got a bunch of passionate Camaro followers on the site. At the end of the day... I think GM can count on the forum members to buy a car from them. Camaro is one success story of the great "GM Revival" history for sure.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:56 PM   #181
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One thing for sure... We got a bunch of passionate Camaro followers on the site. At the end of the day... I think GM can count on the forum members to buy a car from them. Camaro is one success story of the great "GM Revival" history for sure.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:32 PM   #182
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Abstaining from voting, because I wouldn't be able to afford it no matter what its called. Hell, I can't even afford an LS.

However, I don't care what GM names it as long as it kicks some snake arse.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:33 PM   #183
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Abstaining from voting, because I wouldn't be able to afford it no matter what its called. Hell, I can't even afford an LS.

However, I don't care what GM names it as long as it kicks some snake arse.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:06 PM   #184
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What about naming it I.R.O.C. like the 3rd gen. I'm just joking it wouldn't work but it is a good name.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:09 PM   #185
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With the Boss 302 being out, at this point I feel it would be best to give it a different name. As long as we are on this second coming of the muscle car era lets keep the names as they belong. The Big block cars of the 60's were SS cars. COPO or the ZL1, but unless they put a 427 in it, ZL1 is not the right choice. So my vote is to make it a SS package or a top of the line SS Supercharged. Then develop the light weight road race car that should have the Z/28 badge on it. Put the LS3 out of the Grand Sport in it. Forged internals and a dry sump. (6 speed cars only)
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:11 PM   #186
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1) At this point I would put money on the fact that it won't be named the Z/28.

2) Anyone who voted that they wouldn't buy it if it wasn't named Z/28 wasn't buying the car either way.
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The OP (me ) says you can vote if you'd like.
In that case, I vote "I don't care what GM calls it as long as it kicks some snake arse."
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Old 01-16-2011, 10:42 PM   #188
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Obviously they aren't going to call it Fatty McFatterson, but they need to be careful. If it doesn't sound like something a Camaro would be called, they need to step back.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:05 AM   #189
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This is new, I agree with at least half the people posting here xD

I think this car shouldnt be called Z/28, would that, or should it, affect mine or anyone's decision to buy it? No, not at all. The Z/28 was originally competitive as a track car, it was a detuned race car sold to the public and its main rivals were the Boss 302 and T/A Challenger. The Z/28 never competed with the GT500 so historically i dont think that should change now. With Ford unveiling its plans for a superpowered N/A detuned track Mustang named Boss 302 i think GM should do the same with the Z/28, a lighter, more powerful, more track oriented N/A car, just push the SS as utterly far as it will go performance-wise or legally for that matter without adding forced induction and thats the Z/28. Im not going to whine and say "its only a Z if its got a 302" cause thats not true at all, but i dont like the idea of a factory Z with forced induction. The Z should focus on huge weight savings, strip it of all unecessary luxury items, replace materials with lighter materials, give it an aluminum block, large performance cam, high flow heads, tuneable aspects like suspension and such, that's a Z/28.

As for THIS car, i saw someone talk about "no mention of 3rd gens" well here you go haha, i think it should be called the 1LE personally, after the race inspired 3rd gen Irocs. Plus it just fits with the "hood louvers" they mention as part of the design, an essential staple of any Iroc haha. Plus with them naming this something else it makes everyone happy, the people who really want this supercar along with all the comforts of a modern home get it and the people who want a stripped down, no BS Z/28 get that too, best of both worlds.
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Although as an afterthought i think maybe GM should just contract SLP to build this car for them...i mean Ford went to Shelby to do it to theirs, cant SLP be our Shelby?
Food for thought =P
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Although as an afterthought i think maybe GM should just contract SLP to build this car for them...i mean Ford went to Shelby to do it to theirs, cant SLP be our Shelby?
Food for thought =P
No. I will never buy it.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:21 AM   #192
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ZL1 = Most powerful Camaro more suited to fight Mustang GT500

z28 = Racer Camaro more suited to fight new Mustang BOSS 302

MY CHOICE = ZL1


ANYONE OBJECT AND WHY?
(SLP's ZL1 fights the GT500)
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ZL1 = Most powerful Camaro more suited to fight Mustang GT500

z28 = Racer Camaro more suited to fight new Mustang BOSS 302

MY CHOICE = ZL1


ANYONE OBJECT AND WHY?
Because ZL1 belings to SLP. I will not buy from them.
Has to be GM made.
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:41 AM   #194
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I WANT TO SEE IT ALREADY! (That's what she said) I honestly don't know what it should be called.. I think badging the top dawg camaro w/ "Z/28" would be kinda wierd.. and I don't really care for the "HP Edition" title either. I've always heard that you're paying mainly for the name if you go with HP. I could be wrong. Either way, it will be nice.
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Because ZL1 belings to SLP. I will not buy from them.
Has to be GM made.
It would be GM made, it would just be SLP modified/tuned, just like the GT500, speaking of which i dont think ive ever heard a Mustang guy say "nope, built by Shelby, not Ford, i dont want it" haha.
Personally i trust SLP, i mean they have decently long ties to Camaro/Firebird already, they were the ones responsible for the 4th gen SS Camaro and WS6 Trans Am and as far as i know there was no drama between SLP and GM there, in fact people are still fanatics about the WS6 T/As, myself included haha
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:19 AM   #196
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Although as an afterthought i think maybe GM should just contract SLP to build this car for them...i mean Ford went to Shelby to do it to theirs, cant SLP be our Shelby?
Food for thought =P

Not on Topic, but the current Shelby has nothing to do with Shelby. It is all SVT and built by Ford in Flat Rock Michigan. Only the Super Snake packages are Shelby work, its more of an aftermarket mod.
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Because ZL1 belings to SLP. I will not buy from them.
Has to be GM made.
^ This.........I still hope the car is called Z/28.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:28 AM   #198
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I'd drive the Chevy McLovin' if they want to name it that.

Seriously though, I'm sure the GM folks have enjoyed reading this thread and getting everyone's take on the name so they make sure they make the right marketing move.

Well done folks.

With no mention of anything but Z28 thus far regarding this vehicle, I find it hard to believe they'll name it something else.

More interestingly, why does everyone focus on the 1st gens when it comes to the Z28 nameplate? The name has been dragged through the mud in the late 70's and early 80's. It's not untarnished. They started moving in the right direction again with the 4th gens, but I don't see it as a hallowed nameplate. It was just a popular RPO code in the first place.

That being said, I think this is just a test to see how much value the consumer places in a name and I'd be surprised to see them not use Z28 when looking at results in this poll and likely others around the web.
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1) At this point I would put money on the fact that it won't be named the Z/28.

2) Anyone who voted that they wouldn't buy it if it wasn't named Z/28 wasn't buying the car either way.
False to 2). I called my dealer Friday morning and told him I wanted to be first in line for this IF it is called a Z28 and let me know when to come put a deposit down if I need to. But, if its not a Z28, pull me off the list. If they announce it's a Z28, I'll have the check written before the announcement is over.
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NOT calling it a Z28 would be the biggest blunder GM could possibly make in the wake of rebuilding their company and brand(s)!

Camaro fans have not been calling for a "HP" Camaro for the last 2 years -- they've been demanding a Z28. A surefire way for GM to alienate their customers and prove they're back at "business-as-usual" ignoring their customers, would be to ignore 2+ years of consumer demand and go with a "HP" designation that means nothing--absolutely nothing--to the current target audience Camaro fan.

IMHO, to the naysayers that are still holding onto the "SS was supposed to be more powerful than a Z28" argument: let it go. This isn't 40 years ago, or even 10 years ago. It's not "your fathers' Camaro" anymore; and if you're the actual father in that analogy, time to give up a useless fight and get behind the company bringing you Camaros in the first place
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