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Old 04-14-2009, 12:54 PM   #1
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Where are the Camaros?

I'm just wondering. When production first started it was stated that it would take 7 to 10 days for the cars to ship, which didn't happen. A couple of weeks ago we heard the Camaros have been released for shipment and still no one has one except for Hendricks. What is going on here? Do the Camaros have problems that need to be worked out or is GM holding them until the May reveal. If either of these are the case, please just let us know.

This lack of communication on the shipment of the Camaros is only causing frustration and speculation. If the cars need extra inspection, let the dealers know so they can let us know. If the cars are to be held until May, again, let the dealers know so we can know. Anyone who has ordered a car needs to know when to expect the car so they can set up financing, sell their other car, return their leased car or a variety of other reasons. GM really needs to communicate on what is going on with the shipment of cars so those ordering the car can plan accordingly.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Well if you haven't seen the news lately GM is pretty busy nowadays fighting for their survival. It may seem like a simple thing to provide more and better communication but even that stuff costs a lot of time and money, and GM is lacking both of those right now.
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I know there have been tons of threads on this already and people are getting impatient, however I agree with the original poster, why has nobody been given a definitive answer on this. I haven't ordered a car so it doesn't matter much to me other than I am excited to see them on the road, but with all these threads that keep popping up with angry/impatient people, if there was an actual definitive answer out there people would stop posting and wouldn't be so impatient/upset IMO
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Ok... listen up.. Hendricks has his because he owns the damn delaership...I'm pretty sure he's not driving them around.

the street date for these cars is May 6th.

MAY 6th... again..

So please do not throw negativity around... yes people are getting impatient. Trust me, I know, but its going to do no good to complain like this.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:05 PM   #6
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Well if you haven't seen the news lately GM is pretty busy nowadays fighting for their survival. It may seem like a simple thing to provide more and better communication but even that stuff costs a lot of time and money, and GM is lacking both of those right now.
I have to disagree with you here. GM had an IDL on 4/9, just last week, for dealers. They could have easily put this information into that communication.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:07 PM   #7
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Ok... listen up.. Hendricks has his because he owns the damn delaership...I'm pretty sure he's not driving them around.

the street date for these cars is May 6th.

MAY 6th... again..

So please do not throw negativity around... yes people are getting impatient. Trust me, I know, but its going to do no good to complain like this.
Where are you getting "the street date for these cars is May 6th"? Again, when the cars first went into production I, and many others, saw it would take 7 to 10 days for shipment. Again, just a couple of weeks ago there was a big thread which stated the Camaros are released for shipment. Neither of these communications said anything about May 6th.

I just want clear communication so I and others can plan accordingly.
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Where are you getting "the street date for these cars is May 6th"? Again, when the cars first went into production I, and many others, saw it would take 7 to 10 days for shipment. Again, just a couple of weeks ago there was a big thread which stated the Camaros are released for shipment. Neither of these communications said anything about May 6th.

I just want clear communication so I and others can plan accordingly.
Read further back.. its probably lost in a thread and im too tired over this to go digging.... The date Hendricks will be able to show the cars he has is a press day on May 6th, that same day the other dealers around the U.S. will be able to start allowing people to drive the demo cars they received (the one-per-dealer cars). If you think about it. thats just over 2 weeks away.. thats not that long.

I understand your issue. I really do. I've been on preorder since 10/13/08... I've been watching this damn thing come to life since 2006... But its not going to do any good to have these threads...
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:16 PM   #9
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Again, the main issue is communication so those who ordered can plan accordingly. I can't tell someone who wants to buy my car, "uh, I don't know when I can sell it to you". No one can run a business like that. People have to be able to plan for such a large purchase. If it takes GM to May 6th to deliver the cars, fine, just communicate that clearly so there are no bad assumptions and so I can plan my moves.
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When they have something to say or show you'll hear from them.

It's a waste of time for GM to give second by second makeready and shipping details..

Why? Cause they are fixing things and shipping things and are not a make to order company. They sell stock from lots. Like the Japanese and Koreans...
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When they have something to say or show you'll hear from them.

It's a waste of time for GM to give second by second makeready and shipping details..

Why? Cause they are fixing things and shipping things and are not a make to order company. They sell stock from lots. Like the Japanese and Koreans...
What??? Any business that is trying to sell something to a customer needs to communicate when shipment is expected. That is business 101. Just because this IS GM and we WANT the Camaro doesn't mean they can slack on the customer service.

Come on people, I'm just saying GM needs to communicate when expected delivery will be so we who ordered can plan for it. That is not a big issue, or shouldn't be one.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:29 PM   #12
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I'm kinda on the fence...I am an enthusiast bigtime but did not order a '10 Camaro,BUT a delay this long....without an explanation (of paid/customer cars), is kinda tough for those who ordered....why there are none at the dealers is kinda weird/unfair
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:31 PM   #13
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Most of the dealers in and around the Chicago area are having their formal unveiling and release to customers on May 6th. Our club has been asked to support many of these events.
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I understand the "unveiling" of the Camaro for the general public, but if this included paid "pre-orders" it was never communicated as such.
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...But its not going to do any good to have these threads...
No, it's a much better idea for GM to tell us nothing so the threads continue endlessly here and elsewhere. Brilliant.
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I know there have been tons of threads on this already and people are getting impatient, however I agree with the original poster, why has nobody been given a definitive answer on this. I haven't ordered a car so it doesn't matter much to me other than I am excited to see them on the road, but with all these threads that keep popping up with angry/impatient people, if there was an actual definitive answer out there people would stop posting and wouldn't be so impatient/upset IMO
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I have to disagree with you here. GM had an IDL on 4/9, just last week, for dealers. They could have easily put this information into that communication.
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I'm just wondering. When production first started it was stated that it would take 7 to 10 days for the cars to ship, which didn't happen. A couple of weeks ago we heard the Camaros have been released for shipment and still no one has one except for Hendricks. What is going on here? Do the Camaros have problems that need to be worked out or is GM holding them until the May reveal. If either of these are the case, please just let us know.

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Agree.

Agree.

Agree.

I will continue to wait for my Camaro. But I would like to know more info. on delivery dates for the cars that have been made.

The ones I feel sorry for the most, are the early pre-orders whose car has been made and is sitting there at the factory w/no explanation of WHY it's just sitting there.

Out of all the things GM has done for this car, I've loved everything............all except this one thing.
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No, it's a much better idea for GM to tell us nothing so the threads continue endlessly here and elsewhere. Brilliant.
Exactly my point as I stated above. Without clear communication on assumptions and frustrations will occur.
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Dealers DONOT have to wait for May 6th for deliveries, test drives or selling the display car - it's THEIR choice. They are advised NOT to hold up the deliveries.

GM response to any delivery delays:

GM's goal is to deliver as many units as quickly as possible, but our number one goal is to ensure these initial Camaro models exceed our quality standards. As the old saying goes, "you only have once chance to make a first impression," and everyone at GM wants to make sure this first impression for consumers is long lasting and worth the wait.

We now return to regular programming.....
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I'm just wondering. When production first started it was stated that it would take 7 to 10 days for the cars to ship, which didn't happen. A couple of weeks ago we heard the Camaros have been released for shipment and still no one has one except for Hendricks. What is going on here? Do the Camaros have problems that need to be worked out or is GM holding them until the May reveal. If either of these are the case, please just let us know.



This lack of communication on the shipment of the Camaros is only causing frustration and speculation. If the cars need extra inspection, let the dealers know so they can let us know. If the cars are to be held until May, again, let the dealers know so we can know. Anyone who has ordered a car needs to know when to expect the car so they can set up financing, sell their other car, return their leased car or a variety of other reasons. GM really needs to communicate on what is going on with the shipment of cars so those ordering the car can plan accordingly.
We never had bulletproof info the cars would ship that soon.

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Again, the main issue is communication so those who ordered can plan accordingly. I can't tell someone who wants to buy my car, "uh, I don't know when I can sell it to you". No one can run a business like that. People have to be able to plan for such a large purchase. If it takes GM to May 6th to deliver the cars, fine, just communicate that clearly so there are no bad assumptions and so I can plan my moves.
Although I agree with you (because I am impatient), the biggest problem I see is that GM gave us any information at all. We all seem to think that because we pre-ordered a car (that we don't currently own), we have a right to know everything about the car immediately, but unfortunately we don't.

We know for a fact that GM has been listening to what is being said on these boards -- and others like this -- and I have to say... even if the economy wasn't in the tank, they would probably never do this process again. Everyday there are dozens of GM and dealer bashing threads, because people don't have their cars yet, and it pisses me off.

There are a lot of lurkers from other car forums who read this stuff -- if this were happening to the Mustang, I would think very little of Ford -- and lately, we as a whole are giving GM a bad reputation just because they aren't delivering a product that never had been promised by a specific date.

What I'm trying to say is... we should just be happy for the opportunity we have been given, but we are not... :(
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Back on 2/21, I posted that nobody will see their car before May 6th - on GM national PR day. I was called an "idiot", and so was my dealer who told me that. "Your full of BS, I will get my Camaro in early Apirl", I guess a few people may be eating a little idiot crow soon!
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Ok... listen up.. Hendricks has his because he owns the damn delaership...I'm pretty sure he's not driving them around.
Actually, he has his because he forked up 350k for vin 0001. fork up that amount a cash and you can get yours now too
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What??? Any business that is trying to sell something to a customer needs to communicate when shipment is expected. That is business 101. Just because this IS GM and we WANT the Camaro doesn't mean they can slack on the customer service.

Come on people, I'm just saying GM needs to communicate when expected delivery will be so we who ordered can plan for it. That is not a big issue, or shouldn't be one.
No car company gives you an exact build date, a tracking number for your shipment, or a day in which it will be delivered. There are way to many variables. You think you're upset now, what if they had told you it would've been here on April 5th, and there's some hold up and you didn't get it for another month? You'd probably cancel your order! Its just how things are done in the car industry. Does it suck? yes, a bit. But we can't expect everything on a silver platter with this car. If it had been a normal release, we'd be clueless about the entire thing until it showed up on the dealer lot. I personally like this way a whole lot better.
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We never had bulletproof info the cars would ship that soon.



Although I agree with you (because I am impatient), the biggest problem I see is that GM gave us any information at all. We all seem to think that because we pre-ordered a car (that we don't currently own), we have a right to know everything about the car immediately, but unfortunately we don't.

We know for a fact that GM has been listening to what is being said on these boards -- and others like this -- and I have to say... even if the economy wasn't in the tank, they would probably never do this process again. Everyday there are dozens of GM and dealer bashing threads, because people don't have their cars yet, and it pisses me off.

There are a lot of lurkers from other car forums who read this stuff -- if this were happening to the Mustang, I would think very little of Ford -- and lately, we as a whole are giving GM a bad reputation just because they aren't delivering a product that never had been promised by a specific date.

What I'm trying to say is... we should just be happy for the opportunity we have been given, but we are not... :(
I have to disagree with you on this point. First let me start by saying I put down a deposit on a purchase which the dealer/GM has. So I deserve/expect information on the delivery of what I put money down on. Second, if GM didn't want all of this going on they should have never had the "Pre-order" business. They must take the bad with the good.
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The above was a clear communication.
So, what do I tell my financier about when I can expect to take the loan?
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