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Old 01-19-2011, 11:48 AM   #1
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M3 Who??? Cadillac ATS-V Coming With 470 Horsepower V-8


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Small cars and Cadillac haven't, historically, gone hand in hand. But they will in the near future, as General Motors is already stepping up work on its new 3-Series and C-Class rival.

The latest addition to the Cadillac lineup, dubbed the ATS, will slot in below the current CTS and should be on sale in time for the 2014 model year. It will be available in several different flavors, including a base four-cylinder model and range-topping ATS-V complete with a next-generation small block V-8.

GMís new small block engine family will have improved fuel efficiency through direct injection as well as an advanced combustion system design. The engines will rely exclusively on aluminum blocks, which are lighter and contribute to their improved fuel efficiency. In addition to being E85 ethanol capable, these engines are being designed with the capability to meet increasingly stringent emissions standards expected throughout this decade.

However, the biggest revelation comes by way of an alleged ATS spec sheet on the Cheers & Gears forum. Though we canít confirm its authenticity, most of the details match what we already know.

First and foremost, the new Cadillac ATS-V will feature a 6.2-liter V-8 developing 470 horsepower and 428 pound-feet of torque.
Thatís more than the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG, the bad boy of the current crop of executive sports sedans.

New features of the ATS-Vís engine will include full aluminum construction, direct injection, variable valve timing and cylinder deactivation technology.

Transmissions will include either a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic, the latter seeing the new sports sedan return a possible 16/25 mpg city/highway fuel economy.

Other models in the ATS family will include a mid-level V-6, which will sport the same 3.6-liter V-6 from the CTS and output 330 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque.

Rounding out the ATS family will be an entry-level four-cylinder model powered a 2.0-liter turbocharged mill with 270 horsepower and 250 pound-feet of torque on tap. Understandably, it will be the most fuel efficient of the bunch with an expected fuel economy of 22/32 mpg city/highway. Interestingly, this particular model is expected to sport a new eight-speed automatic transmission.

We'll keep you updated on any news as it breaks. In the meantime, check our previous story for details about coupe and convertible variants of the new 2014 Cadillac ATS.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:02 PM   #2
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See?? Shit like this makes me SMILE from ear to ear. .

the 3.6L 330 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque. will probably be debuting in the Camaro in 2012.. possibly with 320HP tho, with the bump going to Caddy as an exclusive. I think the 2.0-liter turbocharged mill with 270 horsepower and 250 pound-feet of torque is underrating tho... considering the Regal is gonna have the 255hp/295lbs
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:04 PM   #3
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Looks promising and I like the DI. It shouldn't have any problems beating the current M3 but who knows what the German's will bring to the table in the next gen M3.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:18 PM   #4
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Looks promising and I like the DI. It shouldn't have any problems beating the current M3 but who knows what the German's will bring to the table in the next gen M3.
Agreed... but Cadillac and GM as a whole have doing really well countering the Germans as of late.

I see the Direct-Injection as 470HP being phenomenal for both Corvette and Camaro buyers as well. A single intercool Supercharged version of that will easily push 590-600HP.. a double (ZR1type) would be in the 700s
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:21 PM   #5
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Looks great. Give me the V8. The 3-series (non-M3) and C-Class look kind of frumpy to me anyway.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:26 PM   #6
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If the Bavarians panties aren't in a wad over the Mustang running neck and neck with the M3, this will well and truely do it.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:45 PM   #7
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Grain of salt.

Engine lineup may be accurate, but power/fuel economy figures are purely speculation.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:39 PM   #10
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And Eight speeds for the 3.6 and 2.0T? SWEET!
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Grain of salt.

Engine lineup may be accurate, but power/fuel economy figures are purely speculation.
But in a smaller car like this. Having a v8 as an option is the RIGHT choice! I can see this being a sleeper.
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But in a smaller car like this. Having a v8 as an option is the RIGHT choice! I can see this being a sleeper.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:58 PM   #13
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I just **** my meal when I read this!!

YES!!
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Would anyone care to speculate what to associate pricing with this one with? Obviously below a CTS but how far below?
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Forget grain of salt. Boulder of salt.

Nothing more than an enthusiast's predictions from another forum.

Like I said before, the engine lineup is probably accurate...everything else? That's up in the air.
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probably high 20's low 30's for the 4 cylinder i'd assume
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Forget grain of salt. Boulder of salt.

Nothing more than an enthusiast's predictions from another forum.

Like I said before, the engine lineup is probably accurate...everything else? That's up in the air.
What is the world coming to when we can't trust the numbers for a car 2 years away from production?


That said, the numbers do look a bit conservative on the ATS-V. The fuel economy is the same as the Camaro SS with the L99, in a (supposedly) lighter car that has a next generation engine. The power/torque are lower than I would have thought for a DI 6.2 but I'd say they are still plausible
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:27 PM   #18
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Newp, the engine lineup isn't accurate either.

This spec sheet is a load of crap.
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The world is ending tomorrow and the redhead in the car next to you wants you - badly.

The next generation Camaro will seat 6 COMFORTABLY, will have a 20-speed transmission, and will attain 65 mpg on Ethanol fuel while delivering 1000 horsepower - all backed with GM's new 20 year /unlimited mileage warranty. Pricing for the top of the line model is expected to be below $20,000 for the coupe and $19,500 for the folding hardtop convertible - you read that correctly folks: The convertible will be cheaper than the hardtop coupe!

See? It is easy as pie to make this stuff up.
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I wonder what the M3 will be bumped to in 2014?
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I wonder what the M3 will be bumped to in 2014?
Well, the one for 2012 is supposedly going to get a tuned version of the n54 so...we will see I guess.
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That ATS looks like some type of awesome! If its one step below the CTS, what would the expected price for the ATS-V be? Mid 50s?
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:39 PM   #24
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That ATS looks like some type of awesome! If its one step below the CTS, what would the expected price for the ATS-V be? Mid 50s?
That's just a Photoshopped XTS.
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