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Old 01-22-2011, 08:24 AM   #1
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FoMoCo:Correction customers, its a single piston not two.

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http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-calipers.html

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This is a screencap from the Ford website. It says the same thing on our window sticker and it says the same thing in every press kit and vehicle specifications page we've seen. The Brembo Brake Package ($1,695) gets you 19-by-9.0 Dark Stainless wheels, Unique ESC tuning and a Brembo Brake Package. This includes 14" Brembo rotors with four-piston fixed calipers and 11.8" rotors with two piston calipers in back.

Trouble is....this Mustang GT (just like the Convertible we tested earlier ) with the Brembo package has single piston rear calipers.

Reader cz_75 called us out on our Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Convertible Track Tested saying, "The rear brakes do have sliding calipers, but they have TWO pistons, not one." Sure enough, the specs say two, but our data sheet, which we compile ourselves, said one.

I scolded the guy who made the sheet and changed the data to reflect the spec chart. When we got our long-term Mustang GT in, I supervised the brake inspection.

"How many pistons."

"One." came the muffled response from under the car.

"how many?"

"One."

"Try again. How many?"

"One. Go look."

Hmm

So a couple of got dirty to check it out. Sure enough, the spec chart was wrong and our car, like the 2011 Ford Mustang GT500, has single piston sliders.


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We called Ford from the track to find out what was going on. Told them we'd bought the car off a lot and that it was not a press vehicle or any other sort of pre-production / tuner vehicle.

A few hours (an eternity for a response from a PR rep) we got a call back that the 2011 Ford Mustang GT with the Brembo package does have SINGLE piston sliding rear calipers and not the two-piston ones as advertised.

Media and consumer information is set to be changed as soon as is possible. Expect some pissed off Mustang owners.

Mike Magrath, Associate Editor Inside Line

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Old 01-22-2011, 08:59 AM   #2
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Guess Ford put the Mustang on a diet.

One Piston.. One Ford.. ommmmmmmm

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Old 01-22-2011, 09:11 AM   #3
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There is one on each side, so there are two, right?
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:06 AM   #4
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Doesn't even look like a Brembo caliper.

That's your basic cast iron made in China piece of crap caliper on 99% of the cars out there.
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:18 AM   #5
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They didn't call the rear's brembo's just the fronts...
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:31 AM   #6
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Thanks, that explains it. They should call it - Front Brembo Brakes. If I bought a Brembo Brake Package, I'd assume it was all 4 corners. But then again it is Ford, expect mediocrity.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:33 PM   #7
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But then again it is Ford, expect mediocrity.
Kinda like putting wheels weights on a brake caliper to solve a squealing issue, right? Or loose spoilers due to fasteners not being torqued properly. I mean, what kind of quality car company would do that?
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Kinda like putting wheels weights on a brake caliper to solve a squealing issue, right? Or loose spoilers due to fasteners not being torqued properly. I mean, what kind of quality car company would do that?
I'd rather have wheel weights than not having rear brembo brakes.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:59 PM   #9
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Kinda like putting wheels weights on a brake caliper to solve a squealing issue, right? Or loose spoilers due to fasteners not being torqued properly. I mean, what kind of quality car company would do that?
Chevrolet didn't lie about the number of pistons on their brakes.
You are comparing quality control issues to flat out lieing to all your customers.
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:59 PM   #10
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Chevrolet didn't lie about the number of pistons on their brakes.
You are comparing quality control issues to flat out lieing to all your customers.
False advertising anyone?
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:30 PM   #11
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I'd rather have wheel weights than not having rear brembo brakes.
Mine was built 11/09 and didn't have any weights. Doesn't squeel either. So I'm glad to have 4 Brembos, no weights, and no squeel.

I'd bet Ford had originally planned on all 4 Brembos. The car might be easier to change than the marketing literature. Probably determined the rears weren't needed, and pitched them for cost savings.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:01 PM   #12
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Mine was built 11/09 and didn't have any weights. Doesn't squeel either. So I'm glad to have 4 Brembos, no weights, and no squeel.

I'd bet Ford had originally planned on all 4 Brembos. The car might be easier to change than the marketing literature. Probably determined the rears weren't needed, and pitched them for cost savings.
All SS's had weights.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:09 PM   #13
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All SS's had weights.
wow, your right. I just looked with a flashlight and they are there.

Looks like they are painted black, and I never even noticed them. That would explain why they don't squeel.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:17 PM   #14
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wow, your right. I just looked with a flashlight and they are there.

Looks like they are painted black, and I never even noticed them. That would explain why they don't squeel.
Yup
They did change them 3/4 of the way on the 2010 from flat weights to some roller skate looking ones.
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:25 PM   #15
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Mine was built 11/09 and didn't have any weights. Doesn't squeel either. So I'm glad to have 4 Brembos, no weights, and no squeel.

I'd bet Ford had originally planned on all 4 Brembos. The car might be easier to change than the marketing literature. Probably determined the rears weren't needed, and pitched them for cost savings.
nope ford never had intention of putting brembos all around. Even the GT500 has single piston calipers in the rear. doesn't really matter performance wise...but it bothers me aesthetically
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:35 PM   #16
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The Brembo package only puts Brembos up front?

That's new to me......and interesting.
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i thought this was old news about it only having single piston calipers out back

i've never noticed that it said two piston calipers on the spec sheet.
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Interesting. Maybe I should check my GT500's... make sure I didn't get shafted.
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Interesting. Maybe I should check my GT500's... make sure I didn't get shafted.
you have single piston calipers...
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:34 PM   #20
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Thanks, that explains it. They should call it - Front Brembo Brakes. If I bought a Brembo Brake Package, I'd assume it was all 4 corners. But then again it is Ford, expect mediocrity.
If the Ford Mustang GT with the BBP stops shorter than it's two main competitors, and it does, how is that mediocrity? That reminds me of the Abercrombie phenomenon, the clothes are actually sub par when compared to most of the competition, but it's 'worth more' because it says A&F on it.

I think I'll just take the better stopping car however many pistons the calipers in back may have.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:11 PM   #21
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If the Ford Mustang GT with the BBP stops shorter than it's two main competitors, and it does, how is that mediocrity? That reminds me of the Abercrombie phenomenon, the clothes are actually sub par when compared to most of the competition, but it's 'worth more' because it says A&F on it.

I think I'll just take the better stopping car however many pistons the calipers in back may have.
Then I think you should look into something like a CTS-V, ZR1, Enzo, Gallardo..

Lord knows Ford doesn't have anything close.. And the Ford GT was just a "Yeah but.." stunt.
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Then I think you should look into something like a CTS-V, ZR1, Enzo, Gallardo..
The whole point is that we are talking about cars in the same price range. If car X has the best stopping performance in it's price range does it really matter if the rear calipers say Brembo on them? Or, does it just matter that car X is the best stopping car? As I said, given the choice, I'll choose the latter.
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What about the buyers who actually believed they were getting Brembos on all four corners...

Would Ford make it right for those buyers?
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Yes, because my descision is solely based on stopping distance.
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Realistically Ford should have put Brembos all the way around, but it doesn't matter because the only ones who will ever notice are guys that do road courses. Normal driving will never get to the point where you need the fade resistance that Brembo's offer. Next, people will want stainless steel braided line for better feel.
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