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Old 01-26-2011, 02:21 AM   #1
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Hurst to tall

I have installed a hurst shifter #391 6030 about week ago. I havn't drove the car because of the weather here. When I sit in the car the stick seems to be about 2 inchs to tall, it also sits a little right when in N. 3-4 center..I know it bolts to the right side of the stub and you can tell. For $300.00 + hurst should have fixed the small problems.What did they do make it to tall to put there name on it and come on get in the center of the console. Is there some guy in a suit thats good sell it, not my car? I just wanted it to perform, look, and feel good if I'm only going to get 1 out of 3 maybe they should sell them for a $100.00.
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:53 AM   #2
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I had the Hurst and went to the MGW. Love this shifter!

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Old 01-26-2011, 11:15 AM   #3
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I'm goinng to put the stock looking stick in and see if I can live with it. The chrome white knob looks good just to tall.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:27 AM   #4
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Did you get the extended stick Mine works perfect and sits the same height as stock. I love it

I have the chrome stick w/ white ball on it. Maybe it's installed wrong Post some pics if you can
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:35 AM   #5
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This is a race shifter. Have you ever seen a race car? Take a look at the interior of a dragster, Nascar, rally car, road course car, etc., etc... The shifter is taller. Why? because it's closer to the steering wheel for quicker transition. Short throw shifter means just that - shorter throws. Not that the stick is cut-off like all those Honda wanna-be's. Hurst sells all kinds of upper sticks that bolts right up to this shifter or any Hurst shifter... I'm sure you would be able to find one that puts the stick just about anywhere you like it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:48 AM   #6
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actually the billet plus 2 kit comes with a factory upper stick so you can put the factory ball back on
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:09 PM   #7
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the Hurst shifter height is almost identical to the stock height!
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:21 AM   #8
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Did you get the extended stick Mine works perfect and sits the same height as stock. I love it

I have the chrome stick w/ white ball on it. Maybe it's installed wrong Post some pics if you can
I just order the shifter kit #391 6030 I did not see or read anything about two chrome sticks,, one size one chrome stick and one stock for your knob and boot. A pic. do you have one of your shifter.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:59 AM   #9
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This is a race shifter. Have you ever seen a race car? Take a look at the interior of a dragster, Nascar, rally car, road course car, etc., etc... The shifter is taller. Why? because it's closer to the steering wheel for quicker transition. Short throw shifter means just that - shorter throws. Not that the stick is cut-off like all those Honda wanna-be's. Hurst sells all kinds of upper sticks that bolts right up to this shifter or any Hurst shifter... I'm sure you would be able to find one that puts the stick just about anywhere you like it.
Have you ever heard of mathematics, the fact is that the longer the stick is above a fixed pivot point the longer the throw. The longer your lower shifter lever under that pivot point the shorter the throw. All shifters work with this BASIS principle. Why? because math works today the same way it will tomorrow.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:07 AM   #10
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the Hurst shifter height is almost identical to the stock height!
Well maybe I'll grow to like it but , I'm not the only one on this forum to say something about the height .
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:22 AM   #11
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the Hurst shifter height is almost identical to the stock height!
Not true.....it's definately taller. At least with the chrome stick it is. Not by a bunch but it's enough to feel.



OP: Drive it for a little while and see if you like it. You can always pull it out and sell it. Do what makes you happy. It didn't work for me but there are plenty out there that like it.

If you do....then look at the MGW. More money and more work to install but the end result is great. They also have a bunch of shifter knobs to choose from.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:00 PM   #12
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Have you ever heard of mathematics, the fact is that the longer the stick is above a fixed pivot point the longer the throw. The longer your lower shifter lever under that pivot point the shorter the throw. All shifters work with this BASIS principle. Why? because math works today the same way it will tomorrow.
EXACTLY! This shifter has the shortest throw (44%) of any of the shifters out there and it moves the knob closer to the center-line of the steering wheel. What you're forgetting is that the pivot point can be moved when changing the design - this is what Hurst obviously did. They raised the pivot point (which effectively lengthens the lever under the pivot and shortens the length above the pivot as you said). Yes, Hurst could have made the throw even shorter by making the upper stick shorter - but why? 44% seems plenty. Any more would have been way over kill in my opinion.
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:22 PM   #13
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Not true.....it's definately taller. At least with the chrome stick it is. Not by a bunch but it's enough to feel.



OP: Drive it for a little while and see if you like it. You can always pull it out and sell it. Do what makes you happy. It didn't work for me but there are plenty out there that like it.

If you do....then look at the MGW. More money and more work to install but the end result is great. They also have a bunch of shifter knobs to choose from.


with the chrome stick it is about 3/4 in taller. With the stick utilized to re-use the STOCK knob, the height is the same
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:57 PM   #14
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I just order the shifter kit #391 6030 I did not see or read anything about two chrome sticks,, one size one chrome stick and one stock for your knob and boot. A pic. do you have one of your shifter.
What I meant is they have different sticks that will make it taller. Dont know if they have any shorter ones. I went out and looked at mine and sits the same as yours. But I also put it in neutral and looked through the back glass and it was right in the middle

But like somebody else said....Drive it for a while and if you dont like it somebody here will buy it. I tried to buy mine from somebody here and I always got beat to it so I just bought a new one.

One other thing, I believe Hurst is the only one to offer such a big reduction in throw (44%) compared to most others that are 25% and up to 33% I believe.

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Old 01-28-2011, 12:51 AM   #15
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Not true.....it's definately taller. At least with the chrome stick it is. Not by a bunch but it's enough to feel.



OP: Drive it for a little while and see if you like it. You can always pull it out and sell it. Do what makes you happy. It didn't work for me but there are plenty out there that like it.

If you do....then look at the MGW. More money and more work to install but the end result is great. They also have a bunch of shifter knobs to choose from.
Definately taller,, I will drive it with the chrome stick for a while to see if I will change my mind about it, weather permitting. If I don't change my mind I will put the other stick in that came with the kit. I was thinking it would be shorter but I see that subzero05 says there the same. I like the look, the firmness, the short throw of the shifter, but when I set in that car I want that stick to be in the right spot, in my hand easy,,comfort,,feel good you know.. The way it is now I want to grab it under the knob.
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Old 01-28-2011, 01:06 AM   #16
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Note: Called Hurst and they said the stick that comes with #391 6030 is the shortest one they make.. You can get a taller one.
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:03 PM   #17
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Took my exhaust cat-back off today, I have a corsa ordered. Well while having the exhaust off I dropped the shifter out to see if I had done something wrong with the install. Everything look good, checked the socket were the pivot goes up into, wiped it out everything looked good. Took some pics of the sticks , one pointing out the pivot on the hurst alot of difference from stock. Doe's anybody know how much I should ask for the exhaust?
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LOL....love the busted knuckle! Let me guess....from the inside of the center console. That's the one that got me good.

Search around on to see what others are selling exhausts for but don't be surprised if it's little or nothing and hope you don't pay someone to take it away.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:29 AM   #19
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I just order the shifter kit #391 6030 I did not see or read anything about two chrome sticks,, one size one chrome stick and one stock for your knob and boot. A pic. do you have one of your shifter.
I personally think that looks awesome. The Hurst look is classic and I wouldn't change a thing. That thing looks almost identical to the Hurst unit that came stock from the factory in the 1971 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 that I once owned. It's a retro and timeless look that no other shifter has.

The one in my '05 Mustang GT looks the same as yours, and though there may be smoother shifters out there, the Hurst is a definite improvement over stock and no other shifter looks as good, IMO.
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LOL....love the busted knuckle! Let me guess....from the inside of the center console. That's the one that got me good.

Search around on to see what others are selling exhausts for but don't be surprised if it's little or nothing and hope you don't pay someone to take it away.
Yes, everytime I work on something there seems to be some blood involved and your right every little or free.
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I personally think that looks awesome. The Hurst look is classic and I wouldn't change a thing. That thing looks almost identical to the Hurst unit that came stock from the factory in the 1971 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 that I once owned. It's a retro and timeless look that no other shifter has.

The one in my '05 Mustang GT looks the same as yours, and though there may be smoother shifters out there, the Hurst is a definite improvement over stock and no other shifter looks as good, IMO.
I have been spending a lot of time with that shifter and it growing on me.
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Yea same at first my dad was alittle worried about the height. But after a few drives he likes it more than stock.
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