Anyone with 500-550rwhp able to hook with drag radials on street? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 07:06 PM

Hey everyone I am about to send my car off for a stall small 2400 with Livernois 2C cam to accompany my current 501rwhp Magnacharged auto. It is projected that I will see 530-550whp on the dyno with some hp hidden by stall. What I am wondering is if with this power is there anyone that is able to use a drag radial on 20" wheel that will hook at these levels at a roll or from a dig. I will have the BMR trailing arms, non adj toe rods, and rear cradle inserts along with Nitto 555R. With these stock tires I already have some turbo diesel trucks that can give me a run for my money due to my car spinning and getting squarly. They never get by me lol but I feel that I could be much further ahead especially once I add this power but I need to get it to hook and I know the stall can make that worse. Any opinions suggestions would be great.

Huck1974 · 01-26-2011, 07:08 PM

305 555r and a big no from me.

2010 SS RS · 01-26-2011, 07:17 PM

My gosh guys..what temps are you having down there to even think about running DR right now.

They are like hard plastic when below 60 degrees and not very effective.

Of course PZeros are just as bad but at least you wont be cracking them.

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 07:24 PM

Yes my car might as well be on ice all the time in 30 below. Just sucks when a big heavy trunk can hold you because of it lol. Thanks for the info on not running the dr's in winter though that way I will know I need to have mine changed back over to stock atleast for winter. man I was hoping for some luck on hooking atleast from a roll!

jrpxxii · 01-26-2011, 07:48 PM

When it is warm you will see a HUGE difference running DR on the street. I also vote for either the 555 or 05.

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 07:58 PM

I can say I have heard the 05 is not great for mileage. I drive my car about 12k a year so I think the 555r would allow me a full years use which would be most cost effective but I really want the car to hook I did do ok one pzeros this past summer I spun but once it hooked it went and now winter is really sucky so I was thinking atleast in the summer on dr's I could hook pretty good.

FASST 1 · 01-26-2011, 08:01 PM

I have about the same HP with an auto and 555 DRs on the OE wheels. I could not tell much difference between the Nittos and the PZeros when driving on the street. Now when you can let some air out and heat them up like at the track there is a huge difference.

Supercharged SS · 01-26-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jsharp

I can say I have heard the 05 is not great for mileage. I drive my car about 12k a year so I think the 555r would allow me a full years use which would be most cost effective but I really want the car to hook I did do ok one pzeros this past summer I spun but once it hooked it went and now winter is really sucky so I was thinking atleast in the summer on dr's I could hook pretty good.

It will be better with the 555's but if you squash the pedal my guess is that it's still gonna spin. So much low end tq on an unprepared surface.

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 08:08 PM

Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!!

Supercharged SS · 01-26-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jsharp

Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!!

Pretty much. 4wd/awd will win out all most everytime on the street and short runs. Instant traction is hard to beat.

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 08:17 PM

Well then I wont give um the time of day to beat me then lol unless we are at 40-50 mph which then I hook and go good and will kick that azz!

Huck1974 · 01-26-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jsharp

Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!!

Until it warms up out there.

jsharp · 01-26-2011, 08:31 PM

Thats the spirit!

speedster · 01-26-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jsharp

Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!!

If you are willing to go down in rim diameter you can gain some traction back. Also M/T is coming out with 20" drag radials.

Huck1974 · 01-26-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster

If you are willing to go down in rim diameter you can gain some traction back. Also M/T is coming out with 20" drag radials.

Smaller wheels are hard with the brakes. Its about time for some competition in the 20" drag radial market.

Roger Ramjet · 01-26-2011, 09:05 PM

You might want to try installing an orifice in the supercharger bypass valve hose. It delays boost to allow better street tire traction. I have a 0.016 inch Harley CV carb pilot jet in my brand X car. Works good!

JUISSD · 01-26-2011, 09:07 PM

With a built engine and 2.3L Whipple in my Lightning I was making 614whp/674wtq and running on 305/45-18 NT555R's. Despite the huge low end torque it made, I could hook it on the street if I launched it just right. I had to get them VERY hot though.

Huck1974 · 01-26-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet

You might want to try installing an orifice in the supercharger bypass valve hose. It delays boost to allow better street tire traction. I have a 0.016 inch Harley CV carb pilot jet in my brand X car. Works good!

I'm considering the flux capacitor in my turbo car. Once I hit 88mph I will go back to when I did not have a ten pound beer gut.

Control of boost is awesome, but nobody is hooking in January unless you live in Florida.

Roger Ramjet · 01-26-2011, 10:04 PM

With the orifice and 9 psi of boost, mine does OK down to 40* with 3.73 gears.

Detoxx03 · 01-26-2011, 10:22 PM

If Mickey Thompson is coming out with a 20" DR i'd wait for that

SRT10KLLR · 01-27-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsharp

Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!!

You have to learn to roll into the throttle to avoid spinning.

I can't go full throttle for quite a bit on the Silverado on the street tires or on the DR's with normal tire pressure.

On the Camaro with with a 200 shot making 640rwhp and 800rwtq it will hook with the Nitto NT05R's with no problem on the street. Comes in handy when handing out a can of whip ass on the Mustangs. That was before the 3000 stall went in now you have to feather the throttle a little bit.

So your options are limited. You can get the O5R's and sacrifice a lot of mileage as the tires will wear very fast. Or you can learn to take off without spinning the tires. I know it is hard to do when someone is next to you and you want to beat them but if you practice enough you will eventually be able to do it.

Rick@Livernois · 01-27-2011, 02:54 PM

As others have mentioned, you have to get a Nitto pretty hot, but they work very well.

I've been 9's on a 20" Nitto 555R and 10.4 @ 134 mph with a 1.55 60' in Midgard's 650 RWHP auto Camaro on a 20" NT05R. They work excellent on the street as well if they are warm.

-Rick

paul2010 · 01-27-2011, 05:02 PM

My 555s hooked up very well with 15 psi and a sticky track. Over 900 rwhp and made a 9.84. They are very good sticky tires. I think you won't even notice the 2400 stall. Mine is a 3200 and sometimes can't really tell it's there.

midgard · 01-27-2011, 06:57 PM

Never had any problems hooking up on the street when it was 50 degrees or higher out.

LS3*LLY · 01-27-2011, 09:26 PM

I have the same situation with the diesels. I am going to get a cam and tune on my car tomorrow and will have @ 450 rwhp but I also have an 05 duramax im waiting to get my built motor, twin turbos, and dual feulers so once I get my dmax broke I should have around 800 to 850 rwhp

01-26-2011, 07:06 PM	#1
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	Anyone with 500-550rwhp able to hook with drag radials on street? Hey everyone I am about to send my car off for a stall small 2400 with Livernois 2C cam to accompany my current 501rwhp Magnacharged auto. It is projected that I will see 530-550whp on the dyno with some hp hidden by stall. What I am wondering is if with this power is there anyone that is able to use a drag radial on 20" wheel that will hook at these levels at a roll or from a dig. I will have the BMR trailing arms, non adj toe rods, and rear cradle inserts along with Nitto 555R. With these stock tires I already have some turbo diesel trucks that can give me a run for my money due to my car spinning and getting squarly. They never get by me lol but I feel that I could be much further ahead especially once I add this power but I need to get it to hook and I know the stall can make that worse. Any opinions suggestions would be great. __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 07:17 PM	#3
2010 SS RS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM Black Polished Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,141	My gosh guys..what temps are you having down there to even think about running DR right now. They are like hard plastic when below 60 degrees and not very effective. Of course PZeros are just as bad but at least you wont be cracking them. __________________ 418 Stroker, 621RWHP 648 lbs TORQUE Built by Laramie GM Auto Center Tuned by Nick at Mac Autosport. EForce SC, 2 3/4pulley,LPE dual fuel pump, JRE Twin fuel rail upgrade, posi clutch kit, RX oilcatch can and breather, Callies Compstar crankshaft and rods, Racing bearings, CP -13.8 race pistons, steel rings, Comp Cams X6 blower cam, Springs, HD timing chain and tensioner, Doug Thorley Tri Y LT headers, 89.7lb injectors, RPM rollbar, DSS1400 shafts, Simpson 5 pt harness, BMR Toe rods and trailing arms, led lights, RPM input and output shafts

01-26-2011, 07:24 PM	#4
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	Yes my car might as well be on ice all the time in 30 below. Just sucks when a big heavy trunk can hold you because of it lol. Thanks for the info on not running the dr's in winter though that way I will know I need to have mine changed back over to stock atleast for winter. man I was hoping for some luck on hooking atleast from a roll! __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 07:48 PM	#5
jrpxxii Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 427ci Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 3,003	When it is warm you will see a HUGE difference running DR on the street. I also vote for either the 555 or 05. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...2994113&type=1

01-26-2011, 07:58 PM	#6
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	I can say I have heard the 05 is not great for mileage. I drive my car about 12k a year so I think the 555r would allow me a full years use which would be most cost effective but I really want the car to hook I did do ok one pzeros this past summer I spun but once it hooked it went and now winter is really sucky so I was thinking atleast in the summer on dr's I could hook pretty good. __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 07:08 PM	#2
Huck1974 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 834	305 555r and a big no from me.

01-26-2011, 08:01 PM	#7
FASST 1 Drives: Black 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 430	I have about the same HP with an auto and 555 DRs on the OE wheels. I could not tell much difference between the Nittos and the PZeros when driving on the street. Now when you can let some air out and heat them up like at the track there is a huge difference. __________________

01-26-2011, 08:08 PM	#9
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	Gotcha. So basically you guys are telling me I am going to have to put up with all these damn diesel trucks kicking my ass because I got so much power with no traction!!! Damn!! __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 08:17 PM	#11
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	Well then I wont give um the time of day to beat me then lol unless we are at 40-50 mph which then I hook and go good and will kick that azz! __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 08:31 PM	#13
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,335	Thats the spirit! __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Nitto 555R@25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

01-26-2011, 09:05 PM	#16
Roger Ramjet Motor Head Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So MD Posts: 493	You might want to try installing an orifice in the supercharger bypass valve hose. It delays boost to allow better street tire traction. I have a 0.016 inch Harley CV carb pilot jet in my brand X car. Works good! __________________ History Camaro's: 83, 93, 95, 98, & 10.

01-26-2011, 09:07 PM	#17
JUISSD Drives: 2010 White/IOM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,206	With a built engine and 2.3L Whipple in my Lightning I was making 614whp/674wtq and running on 305/45-18 NT555R's. Despite the huge low end torque it made, I could hook it on the street if I launched it just right. I had to get them VERY hot though. __________________ 2010 White/IOM Camaro 2SS/RS M6

01-26-2011, 10:04 PM	#19
Roger Ramjet Motor Head Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So MD Posts: 493	With the orifice and 9 psi of boost, mine does OK down to 40* with 3.73 gears. __________________ History Camaro's: 83, 93, 95, 98, & 10.

01-26-2011, 10:22 PM	#20
Detoxx03 Futral Motorsports Beast Drives: 2008 Corvette Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 546 View My Garage	If Mickey Thompson is coming out with a 20" DR i'd wait for that __________________ D1SC Procharger 700/602 8PSI A Futral Motorsports Creation www.calloutsnola.com

01-27-2011, 02:54 PM	#22
Rick@Livernois Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 763	As others have mentioned, you have to get a Nitto pretty hot, but they work very well. I've been 9's on a 20" Nitto 555R and 10.4 @ 134 mph with a 1.55 60' in Midgard's 650 RWHP auto Camaro on a 20" NT05R. They work excellent on the street as well if they are warm. -Rick __________________ HOME OF THE FIRST ZL1 IN THE 9's! Click here to check out Livernois Motorsports on YouTube

01-27-2011, 05:02 PM	#23
paul2010 Drives: 2012 ZL1 #1278 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,218 View My Garage	My 555s hooked up very well with 15 psi and a sticky track. Over 900 rwhp and made a 9.84. They are very good sticky tires. I think you won't even notice the 2400 stall. Mine is a 3200 and sometimes can't really tell it's there. __________________ 2012 ZL1 #1278 2010 2nd Place Fastest 4 5th Gen LSX Shootout 2011 2nd Place Fastest 4 5th Gen LSX Shootout

01-27-2011, 06:57 PM	#24
midgard Drives: red jewel camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 482	nittos nto5rs Never had any problems hooking up on the street when it was 50 degrees or higher out. __________________ 2010 Red Jewel Camaro ss/rs 815rwhp/783rwtq @ 5800 RPMS!! 9.96@ 142.01 Livernois Muscle 2nd Place Car Camaro5 Fest SSJ1....Original Build 13 psi/nittos.....10.44@134 SSJ2....3.6KB/3.5 pulley/Stock t/b..Best 9.967@142.01 SSJ3...coming soon..Dry Shot....mid 9s?Rossler 6l80E Transmission KB 3.6LC,17" Bogarts, Thanks to Hendrix 9", Thanks to Pfadt original T/b and converter, 419ci stroker (NO LSX Block)

01-27-2011, 09:26 PM	#25
LS3*LLY Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Santa Fe, Tx Posts: 84 View My Garage	I have the same situation with the diesels. I am going to get a cam and tune on my car tomorrow and will have @ 450 rwhp but I also have an 05 duramax im waiting to get my built motor, twin turbos, and dual feulers so once I get my dmax broke I should have around 800 to 850 rwhp __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 ETMC stage 2 blower cam, 2" Kooks headers & exhaust, CAI's cai, Catch Can, TSW wheels & invos, Barton STS, BMR suspension, Hawk HPS pads 483hp & 450tq

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