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Old 04-17-2009, 08:35 AM   #1
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Halo Lights & Driving Lights

I talked to my salesperson yesterday about the Halo HID lights. I was asking if there was a way to change out the regular headlights with the halo lights. I didn't order the RS package since I'm not willing to pay $1200 just for the halo lights. I already ordered the 20" polished wheels. He said he would have to check into it after they could actually see the Camaro. He also said that he had recently been to a class on the Camaro. He said that anyone who ordered the RS package would not have a switch to turn on/off their driving lights. He said they were on all the time when your Halo HID lights were off and off when your Halo HID lights were on. If you don't have the RS package he said there is a switch to turn on/off the driving lights. He said the guy giving the class seemed to know that there was going to be a problem with some people on this item (taking away a switch to people that pay $1200 more for the RS package). Has anyone else heard anything on this topic?
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:49 AM   #2
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1200 is not just for the halo lights in the RS package your forgetting a couple more items
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:53 AM   #3
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He said that anyone who ordered the RS package would not have a switch to turn on/off their driving lights. He said they were on all the time when your Halo HID lights were off and off when your Halo HID lights were on.
While this is true as the fog lights are the DRL's, there is a switch to turn on the fog lights at night so you can have both the HID's and fogs on at the same time.

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If you don't have the RS package he said there is a switch to turn on/off the driving lights.
I've not seen any newer model car that had DRL's that allowed you to turn them off.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:55 AM   #4
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The switch difference is the fog lamp button is not included in the RS since there are no fog lamps. On the RS they are replaced by the DRLs.

I believe you will find it fairly difficult to just swap lamps there is more to it.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:57 AM   #5
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There have been other threads on this, though I'm not sure what the concensus was.

My '07 grand prix allowed me to turn off DRLs by rotating the headlight knob on the stick backwards... may have a similiar feature on camaro, not sure though.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:58 AM   #6
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The switch difference is the fog lamp button is not included in the RS since there are no fog lamps. On the RS they are replaced by the DRLs.
Oh man that's crap

Although with as bright as the HID's are, we may never need them.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:17 AM   #7
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Running standard halogen bulb foglamps with your HID's on looks goofy, fog lights are a cosmetic add for the most part anyway. I think you can defeat DRL's on the Corvette which means there is a pretty good chance you can do it on the Camaro.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:33 AM   #8
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I know there is more to the RS package, but I don't care for the dark wheels (since I ordered the 20" polished) and don't care for the darkened tail lights or body colored roof ditch mouldings. So, for my purposes, I would be purchasing the RS package just to get the Halo lights. That's why I was asking the dealer if they could change out the original & put in the Halos. They have to be the same size, right? The rest would be just getting the wiring to match up.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:37 AM   #9
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I would be interested in changing mine too....I was in the same boat...ordered the polished rims and didn't want to pay 1200 just for the lights.....
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:02 AM   #10
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Does anyone have pics of the regular head lamps?
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:55 AM   #11
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:14 AM   #12
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From what I understand, they can be swapped out! I have ordered the Halo Lights separate from the car order along with the ground effects, hocky stripes and the body color engine cover. Thinking of doing the darker tail lights later!
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:16 AM   #13
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It would be a royal pain. The C4 V retrofit with a group buy was like $1000 bucks.

Just saying your talking about at leat 1-2000 bucks worth of parts and then the labor. Unless your a mechanic it's about 500 bucks or more worth of labor.

If you want them order them for your car. Otherwise you'll just have to wait a while to see if aftermarket kits come out.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:57 PM   #14
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With all the extras on the rs pkg, it is well worth the 1200.00
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:59 AM   #15
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I saw pics the dark wheels are not as dark as you'd think
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:16 AM   #16
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when I chatted with Scott (fbodfather) at the philly auto show he stated that you can turn off the foglights/daytime running lights with the RS package.

When you turn on your running lights/side marker lights the Halos come on with them.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:36 AM   #17
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Always seems a little strange how folks get bent out of shape over various headlight switchs.
As far as HID conversion. To do a factory conversion I suspect will cost quite a bit. I am sure it can be done but doubt that the factory will make it cheap. Generally GM sells each component needed for something like this seperately.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:41 AM   #18
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when I chatted with Scott (fbodfather) at the philly auto show he stated that you can turn off the foglights/daytime running lights with the RS package.

When you turn on your running lights/side marker lights the Halos come on with them.
I think you're missing the point that's trying to be made...took me a minute to get it too....

With RS package.....

During the day...you CAN turn off the 'fog' lights (which serve as DRL)

At night...when you turn on the Headlights (HID)...you CAN NOT turn off the 'fog' lights as there is not a separate switch for them (as they serve as the DRL)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

The bad part is...as someone mentioned...halogen lamps as fog lights look strange when the headlights are HID.

If this is correct...looks like one of my early mods will be to rewire the fog lamps to a new switch. Looks like we'll need the part # for the switch that's installed in the non-RS cars...****calling CamaroScotty...calling CamaroScotty*****
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:29 PM   #19
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With all the extras on the rs pkg, it is well worth the 1200.00


What about the package wouldn't someone want?
Body colored gutter strips are nice... better than black...
The head lights alone are worth it to have factory/stock on the vehicle, the RED SS or the RS logos look nice, the darker tail lamps are cool (if you want darker just get some darker ones anyway again the HID's alone are worth the cost) What did I miss? I'm missing something...
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:41 PM   #20
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I think you're missing the point that's trying to be made...took me a minute to get it too....

With RS package.....

During the day...you CAN turn off the 'fog' lights (which serve as DRL)

At night...when you turn on the Headlights (HID)...you CAN NOT turn off the 'fog' lights as there is not a separate switch for them (as they serve as the DRL)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

The bad part is...as someone mentioned...halogen lamps as fog lights look strange when the headlights are HID.

If this is correct...looks like one of my early mods will be to rewire the fog lamps to a new switch. Looks like we'll need the part # for the switch that's installed in the non-RS cars...****calling CamaroScotty...calling CamaroScotty*****
When you turn on the HID's, the fog lamps turn off...Technically they are not fog lamps with the RS package since they are not needed when you have HID's. What they are are daylight running lamps only and are for decoration purposes as well..
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:05 PM   #21
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If you've never been around DRL's, guys, you don't know what you are missing. They are literally wonderful things to help you be seen in traffic in the daytime. They really add to safety as other traffic will see you coming.

At night, they're OFF...like the description says, DAYTIME running lamps. They will be controlled as fog lamps when the HID's are on or will be totally overridden...either way is a good thing.

Yes, they will be available from the parts department. Think front end collision replacements. But, the question will be "can you afford them" and can you install them yourself? HID's have a really biga$$ed capacitor in them to store energy to fire them up. One misstep around that thing and you'll light yourself up like a cheap roman candle...no kidding. You should find a BMW X5 and read the warning label on theirs.

It's a lighting system, people, not an incurable disease diagnosis. You'll live through it somehow....
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:18 PM   #22
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When you turn on the HID's, the fog lamps turn off..
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At night, they're OFF...like the description says, DAYTIME running lamps. They will be controlled as fog lamps when the HID's are on or will be totally overridden...either way is a good thing.
Is this a 'fact' as you've witnessed or speculation? (just curious)



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It's a lighting system, people, not an incurable disease diagnosis. You'll live through it somehow....
Jesus...no ones freaking out...just having a discussion...no need for a comment like this.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:48 PM   #23
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The fog lamps on a RS model will ONLY be on during the day.

Turn the switch to the parking lights, and halos and side markers come on, fogs off.

One more click and the HID's come on with halos still on.

You cannot control the fog lights at all, they are only for DRL's. I'm not sure if you can over ride them and turn off during the day, me and Number 3 were confusing oursevles.

I played with fbodfathers yellow car, "Thor" when Number 3 drove it to Orlando.
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It looks like there is an off option. If it follows the precedent of other GM models, DRLs (foglamps on RS package) will default to on in the daylight, but can be manually switched off. Every time the car is turned off and then back on it will default to DRLs on.
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It looks like there is an off option. If it follows the precedent of other GM models, DRLs (foglamps on RS package) will default to on in the daylight, but can be manually switched off. Every time the car is turned off and then back on it will default to DRLs on.
Yes you can switch the DRL's off in the daytime. However at night they automatically turn off once the car senses it is nighttime and the HID's turn on with the Halo's. stovt001 above explains that you can turn of the DRL during the day manually everytime you start the car and control the Halo as well as the HID's wether you want to run them or not..
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