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Old 02-01-2009, 09:07 AM   #1
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What cars will the camaro beat?

I am just wondering...cuz i have been searching the forums all day and cannot get consistent answers.

Yes i know the obvious

It will beat a mustang...maybe GT500...i said maybe people...do not flame me for it please

But WHAT ELSE?
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:13 AM   #2
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well the V8 will beat alot of Cars I mean 0-60 in 4.4 seconds is probably a reality so its almost corvette territory. The V6 on the other hand only a few cars
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:27 AM   #3
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Wow, since you didn't put any constraints on your premise, and I am assuming you are talking about the Camaro SS, then you are asking for a pretty long list. Take a drive down the road today and you can add at least 95% of those cars to your list.

Here, let me get this list started and other members can add to it:

Smart Car
Civic
Accord
Fit
CR-V
Element
FCX
Insight
Odyssey
Pilot
Ridgeline
S2000
4Runner
FJ Cruiser
Prius <<<--- Although it may be close for that power house
Tacoma
Avalon
Highlander
RAV4
Tundra
Camry
Sequoia
Venza
Land Cruiser
Sienna
Yaris
Corolla
Matrix
Mustang
Mustang GT

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I'm tired now... someone elses turn.
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we should put one column for the V8 one for the V6
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:34 AM   #5
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what about the challeneger, charger?

genisis?

WRX Sti?

Evo's?
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:41 AM   #6
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definately the mustang v6/gt but not even "maybe" a gt500, not with equal drivers anyway. but once you bring the driver factor in, just about any car can beat any car.
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definately the mustang v6/gt but not even "maybe" a gt500, not with equal drivers anyway. but once you bring the driver factor in, just about any car can beat any car.
The only reason i've said maybe was

I've seen numbers from 4.9 to 4.6 on the 2009 GT500

Then i saw a 4.6 all the way down to 4.3 for the KR

And all of these are on the forums

That is why i said maybe

And roots tend to lose thier advantage at high end
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:19 AM   #8
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This silly, what do you want to beat them in, off-road rally racing, around the Nurburing, 1/4 mile track, down the Rubicon trail? Seriously, to have any meaning posts like this need to specifically mention what is being compared. I'm guessing you want to compare straightline speed, in which case the Camaro SS should beat anything else under $40k, and the only cars that won't at least be reasonably close to are supercar types. The GT500 specifically should definately be faster straightline but it won't be as comfortable as the GT500 driver would like. Around a track the GT500 could very easily be the slower car. We really don't have solid numbers yet so don't get to excited either way. If you really want to compare theoretical numbers though 0-60 numbers are about the worst choice, 0-60 can give you some idea of how fast a car is but 1/8 and 1/4 times will give you a much better idea of how fast a car is.
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thats why i said we should break it down to V8 and V6 categories although the V6 will have a short list
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:25 AM   #10
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it can beat my moms minivan
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thats about it lol!!!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:33 AM   #12
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There are only a few cars under $25k that will be faster than the V6 Camaro, of course we're not 100% sure what that list is until some production models get to see track time outside of GM's hands!
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VW GTI, CobaltSS, Altima, Honda civic SI, Mazdaspeed3 to name a few that will BEAT the CamaroLT
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:06 AM   #14
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VW GTI, CobaltSS, Altima, Honda civic SI, Mazdaspeed3 to name a few
For the V6 theres no way in hell it will beat a Mspeed 3, Cobalt SS, and maybe the GTI. The two latter ones are 5 second cars. Especially the speed3. That thing will tear the camaro apart on the track and off. I took one for a test drive and I tell ya theres a reason that compact is at the top of the list and the name says it all. For a compact that is. Compared the V8 on the track maybe, in a straight line the SS Camaro would kill. If GM builds the SS Camaro like it did the Cobalt SS, I can see that thing smoke alot cars. Too bad Im not getting one because of gas prices. Although the LLT is still awsome for what I need it for.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:10 AM   #15
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Thats what im saying those are some of the CARS that will EAT UP the V6 read my posts man!!! I own a Cobalt SS thats why I am not buying the 6 its to sloW!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:17 AM   #16
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I think it would be wise to hold off and see some #'s put down on paper for the 1SS first.

I mean...you really can't say x will beat y (when hypothetical #'s are comparable) without having hard facts.

How about we wait for two months (...like that? TWO MONTHS!) till we get #'s and then we can compare all.....day.....long!
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well the SS is gonna take alot of cars out, numbers or not. the 6 will be taken out by alot numbers or not sorry no disrespect
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:21 AM   #18
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I think it would be wise to hold off and see some #'s put down on paper for the 1SS first.

I mean...you really can't say x will beat y (when hypothetical #'s are comparable) without having hard facts.

How about we wait for two months (...like that? TWO MONTHS!) till we get #'s and then we can compare all.....day.....long!
I'm not wasting my time looking up stats on the competition until we have official 0-60's and 1/4 times for V6 and V8 Camaros.
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:22 AM   #19
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but not even "maybe" a gt500, not with equal drivers anyway. but once you bring the driver factor in, just about any car can beat any car.
going by all the numbers i have seen for the GT500 it would be a drivers race, I have seen numbers as high as 4.9 IDK about the 1/4 the GT500 would probably take it at least I would hope with 500 ponies. In the twisties however the camaro would make the GT500 its bitch.
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VW GTI, CobaltSS, Altima, Honda civic SI, Mazdaspeed3 to name a few that will BEAT the CamaroLT

2009 Civic SI - 15.0 1/4 mile
2009 Altima Coupe 3.5SE - 14.7 1/4 mile
2009 GTI - 14.6 1/4 mile
2009 MazdaSpeed3 - 14.1 1/4 mile
2009 Cobalt SS - 14.0 1/4 mile


The V6 Camaro should be mid 14s beating the Civic and Altima (which is starting over $26,000), and probably edging out the GTI. Off the top of my head for other fast/cheap aside from the MazdaSpeed3 and Cobalt SS I would add the Caliber SRT-4 and the new WRX (barely squeaking under $25k but it's 13.5 1/4 mile is impressive)

So likely four cars faster in the 1/4 under $25k, I might be missing some but I think that's actually it. Now there are a lot of more expensive cars what are/will be faster but that's just the old gotta pay to play!
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No way an SS is doing 0-60 in 4.4. A professional driver will get it in 4.6. The vette and gt500 are not in reach for a stock camaro.
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what are you talking about tally114 the G8 GXP does it in 4.6 same car same engine with more weight!!! So .2 seconds shaved off by the Camaro is not reasonable?? What are you saying man!!
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Thats what im saying those are some of the CARS that will EAT UP the V6 read my posts man!!! I own a Cobalt SS thats why I am not buying the 6 its to sloW!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:20 PM   #25
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2001 on up stock cars in 1/4 mile
All the hondas except a blown NSX.
All the mazdas.
All the gm cars minus vettes.
All the subarus. U R A BUS

That should be right. these are the cars my dealer sells.
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