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Old 01-29-2011, 01:41 PM   #1
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Question 2SS exhaust Vs Mustang GT sound...

OK- sorry if this question sounds rediculous... and even more sorry I'm actually trying to emulate Ford... but, hey- they've been doing this one detail right for years!

I'm looking for an exhaust to best replicate that deep, compressed bass sound that Ford Mustang GT's are famous for. Everyone who has any interest in muscle cars can pick out a GT exhaust from miles away, it just has that bad a$$ sound...

That said, my 2SS LS3 is being built next week, I've listened to all the sound clips on C5, you tube, etc... but an amateur video clip broadcast through computer speakers doesn't quite represent the real-life sound, so I'm looking for someone who's personally heard the different exhausts and can best guide my purchase.

So far, from what I've heard, I'm leaning heavily toward the Flowmaster American Thunder... I'm about to purchase, but I wanted one last shot at input.

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Old 01-29-2011, 01:58 PM   #2
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I personally think the Camaro's stock exhaust is louder than the GT's and it has a deeper idle rumble. Even the stock exhaust is music to my ears. I want to upgrade, but if you haven't had a chance go listen to the SS exhaust before you make your choice.
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Old 01-29-2011, 02:06 PM   #3
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I personally think the Camaro's stock exhaust is louder than the GT's and it has a deeper idle rumble. Even the stock exhaust is music to my ears. I want to upgrade, but if you haven't had a chance go listen to the SS exhaust before you make your choice.
I have heard a few stock, and I just don't hear much coming from them (personally.) I've also heard a 2SS L99 equipped with a Corsa and still didn't notice much difference.

Perhaps the GTs I'm thinking of do have some type of exhaust on them (as I'm sure most do)- but they all seem to sound similar, and like I said, I can recognize them long before I even see it drive by. It's very unique.
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Old 01-29-2011, 02:09 PM   #4
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The older GT's I would agree with you. The new ones, not so much.
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Old 01-29-2011, 02:15 PM   #5
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The older GT's I would agree with you. The new ones, not so much.
Yeah, your probably right, im thinkin circa early-mid 2000s. Although I had a 2008 stock v6 for work for awhile, and although it didn't have that huge aggressive sound, it was still a much.lighter version of the sound im talkin about.
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I have heard a few stock, and I just don't hear much coming from them (personally.) I've also heard a 2SS L99 equipped with a Corsa and still didn't notice much difference.

Perhaps the GTs I'm thinking of do have some type of exhaust on them (as I'm sure most do)- but they all seem to sound similar, and like I said, I can recognize them long before I even see it drive by. It's very unique.

You'll need to listen to lots of exhaust clips. There's so many exhaust options available. But in my opinion an L99 or LS3 needs long tube headers. There's a special quality (exhaust sound quality) you get from long tubes that you just can't get from a catback or axle back exhaust.

And I agree with you about the stock Camaro exhaust. I've never been impressed with the stock exhaust on the L99 or LS3. At least the LS3's exhaust is a little louder/aggressive vs the L99s (which is ridiculously quiet stock).
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Old 01-29-2011, 02:51 PM   #7
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Having own both 2010 Camaro 1SS L99 and 2011 Mustang GT 5.0, I can tell you, with little money for moddings (Axle back and K&N air filter), the Mustang 5.0 sounds really mean. For the Camaro, you have to put in a lot of money (headers, HFC, Catback system) to get an aggressive sound.

The 5.0 has a faster rythm and high tone rumbling V8 sound while the L99, with all mods, has a slower rythm and lower tone rumbling V8 sound. I like them both because everything about them are uniquely different in a car.

I believe the fast rymths and high tone exhaust sounds from the Mustang allow you to pick up a Mustang car from a far distance away. However, with the right exhaust mods, my wife can tell my Camaro coming home from 1/4 away.
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All I did is put on high flow cats and the car got quite loud. It growls quite nicely now.
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:39 PM   #9
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All I did is put on high flow cats and the car got quite loud. It growls quite nicely now.

got a sound clip or a vid ? lol
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You will never get the same sound as the mustangs, unless you buy one. The heads are totally different, and that's where they get that "Stang" sound ...
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the new 5.0L for sure have a better stock exhaust IMO. looks better and sound better BUT i feel the camaro sounds better with a exhaust over a 5.0L with a exhaust
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You will never get the same sound as the mustangs, unless you buy one. The heads are totally different, and that's where they get that "Stang" sound ...
Im sure i'll never hit the exact tone, just looking for the closest avaliable right now...

Again, anyone with any recommendations?

Anyone with a AT can give me a comparison from experience?
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:11 PM   #13
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I personally think the Camaro's stock exhaust is louder than the GT's and it has a deeper idle rumble. Even the stock exhaust is music to my ears. I want to upgrade, but if you haven't had a chance go listen to the SS exhaust before you make your choice.
Really? I find the stock exhaust way too quiet. And have to say the stock 5.0 exhaust is much better.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:01 AM   #14
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Really? I find the stock exhaust way too quiet. And have to say the stock 5.0 exhaust is much better.
Well maybe it's because I have the LS3 as somebody else mentioned. the L99 is quieter. I never payed attention to the L99s because I was drooling over the MT Camaros
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:33 AM   #15
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I could listen to a number of cars with my eyes closed and pick out the LS3 both at start up and with revving...it has a sound of it own and as your love affair with your Camaro blossoms, you will grow to love that distinct sound too.
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All I did is put on high flow cats and the car got quite loud. It growls quite nicely now.

I was going to recommend this .....
back in my gt days that wast the first thing we did. for the camaro.
their are 4 cats and 2 resonators. pull all that out .
put in 2 (1each side) Hi flow cats.cost of around 300 for the cats and 200 to get installed. so for about 500 bucks. you get great sound and BETTER performance.the stock mufflers flow pretty good. hey 500 bucks why not?
if you want a cat back system later you did not wast any $$$$$$$$$$$
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With my 2005 Mustang GT, all it took to wake it up was a Borla S-type axle-back (the only sound clip I have is on the Dyno...)


As others have stated, you won't be able to duplicate it... but (IMO) the Stainless Works Chambered w/o headers sounds AWESOME!
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:08 AM   #18
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Here's a basic idea of what I am looking for (even with the exhaust, the tone is fairly similar, just louder)



This is the FM, AT I'm looking at:



Closest thing I can find so far, has that tight, bassy compressed sound.... (if that makes any sense)

Just so hard to tell from video clips... (recording quality, camera placement, other mods, etc..etc...)
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The distinctive sound you are after is due more to the engine than the exhaust system behind it.
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Well maybe it's because I have the LS3 as somebody else mentioned. the L99 is quieter. I never payed attention to the L99s because I was drooling over the MT Camaros
True about the L99. Either way the trash cans have to go IMO
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The old GTs sound GREAT! The 05+ they are just ok.
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I think a lot has to do with the firing order of each engine because the old 4.6 mod motors were designed to sound like the old 4.9 they replaced, they sounded good with upgraded exhaust but they never was a powerful threat to the LS1-3 gm engines which themselves have a much different firing order from the original chevy small blocks. Ford did change the firing order in the new 5.0 engines and they do not sound like the previous engines at all but more like a traditional american v8, I guess they felt power was more important than sound. And do not forget that ford equips the gt with shorty headers stock from the factory to get every bit hp out the engine to compete with the Camaro. GM could have emulated the ford sound but they knew we would not stand for that, so they just gave us a unique sound of our own.

Remember the rear cans on the SS has a unique resonance/drone eliminating design that makes the car really quiet until you get down on it. Just removing the cans sounds really great with no need for a cat-back in my opinion. The BEST sounding V-8 by a huge margin is the LS9 ZR1 Corvette which is LS3 based, so it's not without reason to assume that we can duplicate THAT sound in the Camaro with a little trial and error engineering.

I wonder what the LS based engines would sound like with a 180 degree exhaust headers like they run @ Daytona and Talladega super speedways on the nascar race engines which make them sound like the old Indy car V-8's from the turbo charged days. That WOULD be unique.
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I personally like the sound of the LG Motorsports Super-Pro long tube headers and exhaust system even though I have yet to hear one in person.

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Get the flowmaster cat back... I am not a big flowmaster fan, and had spintech and other brands on my old cars...but flowmasters on the LS3 is the best way to get that real old school muscle car sound that I think you want. I have heard and drove an SS with headers and 1 chamber flowmasters and it sounded so increadable! Yes it will drone, but drone does not bother me. I am getting 1 chamber flowmasters and headers in march. There is chambered pipe systeme out there that sounds good too, cant remeber the name off hand. The youtube vids just dont cut it, but there is one with a SS with a mild cam and flowmaster cat back... sounds just like the old school small blocks, but even better!
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With my 2005 Mustang GT, all it took to wake it up was a Borla S-type axle-back (the only sound clip I have is on the Dyno...)


As others have stated, you won't be able to duplicate it... but (IMO) the Stainless Works Chambered w/o headers sounds AWESOME!
If I could just hear one of these Stainless Works Retro Chambered kits in person, I think i could finally make my exhaust decision!
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