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Old 02-04-2009, 02:50 AM   #1
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If Any Dealer Wants My Business...

BTW, if ANY dealer wants my business.....

Real tired of non-informed sales people, dealers without ANY information, no prices, $3000 markups, acting like this car is the cats meow. It is and it isn't. The economy sucks, housing sucks, people losing jobs. If the launch of the Camaro did not coincide with the worst economy since the Great Depression, would I not be saying this.

I have read alot here at Camaro5 and learned. I am new here, true. But common sense dictates truth and direction. I have read many posts in particular from CamaroScotty and what he says makes sense..and I believe what he says. So, my post is not directed at anyone here period. Maybe some fodder for my banishment...

Here is my order...

2SS, IOM, MN6, RS, W1H, VZG, VYV.

$35,500 including tax (6%) tag and title.

I can get employee pricing, GSU, Credit Union..

And I can wait..until so offered. Here is your chance to get a quick, no B.S. sale, no calling you up on the phone "where is my car". I'll wait till December to pick it up. You keep any incentives or rebates, and I will put it in writing.

The buyer is the market now guys! NOT the seller. I suggest we decide what we pay, not the other way around. Banks have tightened up lending making this Camaro purchase a tough one. I personally would rather call 20 dealers, tell them what I want, and tell them where they are at in "line" and what I will pay and having them fight for my money.

Again, nothing personal towards anyone at all here. Only venting because of dealers posting GMS pricing for the above SS, getting emails and calls and in the end, only $1400 less than MSRP and $1798 more than GMS pricing edict.

So, If any salesman has allocation left, from their original allocation and not from "future" potential allocation, PM me. My price is firm, I'll put it all in writing!
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I've worked with Graff Chevrolet from Okemos quite a few times. Granted its a good hour from Detroit, but just letting you know its out there. They are accepting GMS, and I have it in writing. Last I knew they had 4 of their 11 allocated left. I've tried calling many dealers in the Detroit area, and most are clueless.

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Old 02-04-2009, 06:37 AM   #5
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Might be a hard task to pull off - I was under the impression the pricing might change after the sold preordering concluded....so if you're not a part of that, I don't see anyone wanting to "quote" a price for a car that far down the road.

And thanks for the comments!
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:19 AM   #7
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if you can wait, why don't you just wait?
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:40 AM   #8
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if you can wait, why don't you just wait?
Exactly..

If I order now, my wait, from crunching all the "information" will be just as long, maybe a little longer than waiting 6 months or thereabouts for GM pricing.

Order now, Car comes in no later than October. Wait till Sept. car comes in usually 6-8 weeks.

One of my subtle points is the "worth" of pre-ordering AND "not knowing" when the car will arrive.

I would make a substantive guess that If I ordered a Camaro now AND I ordered another exact Camaro the first day GM offered pricing/incentives that the differnce in delivery would be maybe 1-2 months.

All I am saying is that the "Idea" is so screwed up right now that it is entirely possible to wait for GM pricing and get the car around the same time as a pre-order. As well, dealers that sport GMS pricing or any variant thereof, are NOT EVEN CLOSE. Case in point, dealer "Y" The same Camaro as mentioned. Price without tax, tag, title? $36,400. Huh? That is GM employee pricing?
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:52 AM   #9
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Thats what I am talking about! Although not employee pricing, very nice $2100 off..
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Yeah I'm also sick of car dealers already, and I only went car shopping for the first time ever last week and I'm so not looking forward to doing it again in a few weeks/months. I blame a good percentage of the carpocalypse on greedy, ignorant, uninformed car dealers.
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I like it.

Scotty, why would you think pricing is going to change after preorders???? I mean the MSRP prices are published in GM documentation for the car. GM would be nuts to change them after the car hits the streets.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:34 PM   #12
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The only problem with waiting is that MSRP will probably go up for the non preorders. If you wait for a deal you may end up paying more...the only reason they are going for MSRP in some areas is because of the poor economy. The economy will rebound and price will go up.
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The only problem with waiting is that MSRP will probably go up for the non preorders. If you wait for a deal you may end up paying more...the only reason they are going for MSRP in some areas is because of the poor economy. The economy will rebound and price will go up.
Why do people keep saying this? The prices are published to the public. These are not "Pre Order" prices, they're published in the hard copy available to people asking about the car.
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BTW, if ANY dealer wants my business.....

Real tired of non-informed sales people, dealers without ANY information, no prices, $3000 markups, acting like this car is the cats meow. It is and it isn't. The economy sucks, housing sucks, people losing jobs. If the launch of the Camaro did not coincide with the worst economy since the Great Depression, would I not be saying this.

I have read alot here at Camaro5 and learned. I am new here, true. But common sense dictates truth and direction. I have read many posts in particular from CamaroScotty and what he says makes sense..and I believe what he says. So, my post is not directed at anyone here period. Maybe some fodder for my banishment...

Here is my order...

2SS, IOM, MN6, RS, W1H, VZG, VYV.

$35,500 including tax (6%) tag and title.

I can get employee pricing, GSU, Credit Union..

And I can wait..until so offered. Here is your chance to get a quick, no B.S. sale, no calling you up on the phone "where is my car". I'll wait till December to pick it up. You keep any incentives or rebates, and I will put it in writing.

The buyer is the market now guys! NOT the seller. I suggest we decide what we pay, not the other way around. Banks have tightened up lending making this Camaro purchase a tough one. I personally would rather call 20 dealers, tell them what I want, and tell them where they are at in "line" and what I will pay and having them fight for my money.

Again, nothing personal towards anyone at all here. Only venting because of dealers posting GMS pricing for the above SS, getting emails and calls and in the end, only $1400 less than MSRP and $1798 more than GMS pricing edict.

So, If any salesman has allocation left, from their original allocation and not from "future" potential allocation, PM me. My price is firm, I'll put it all in writing!
WOW! Salespeople should be jumping at the chance to do business with you.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:21 PM   #16
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WOW! Salespeople should be jumping at the chance to do business with you.
As a matter of fact, I got the above described SS for $35,730.96 out the door from a board member and Michigan dealer. I said $35,500 was my max, but I had to add $180 DOC and another $12 tax to my figure.

Sent me a PDF file with my information, car workup and purchase agreement on dealer letterhead. Order going in first thing in the AM and getting order number then.

So, to answer your question, yes they did jump. As a matter of fact, I got 4 replies and two auto book pdf's with attached purchase agreements before noon today, all from bonafide dealers.

The guy I am working with is very knowledgable and very helpful. And I thank him for clearing any disillusion I had with the other dealers.

Don't be hatin'!
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Might be a hard task to pull off - I was under the impression the pricing might change after the sold preordering concluded....so if you're not a part of that, I don't see anyone wanting to "quote" a price for a car that far down the road.

And thanks for the comments!
so what are you saying that the price will increase.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #18
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I like it.

Scotty, why would you think pricing is going to change after preorders???? I mean the MSRP prices are published in GM documentation for the car. GM would be nuts to change them after the car hits the streets.
George Bush once said..."READ MY LIPS....." then we had a tax increase.

GM says *Subject to change

And, I heard it somewhere that pricing will be evaluated. Pricing changes all the time, and all the line up.....This car isn't going to be immune from them. Any supplier increases, labor etc - it all gets passed along. I hope NOT, but......
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:14 AM   #19
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Thank you for the nice words about dealers. I know there are a lot of dumb ones out there, but that doesn't mean we are all like that. Some of us actually keep up on the products we sell and don't blow smoke up people's butt. I'll have everything around this morning for you.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:17 AM   #20
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Matt,

Thanks! Got my order number and agreement as described and discussed.

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Thanks! Got my order number and agreement as described and discussed.

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Awesome!

I e-mailed Basil about the $500 over invoice deal on Monday and never heard back from them.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:01 AM   #22
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Can't wait..

The T/A has 140k, still running great. But as stated, nothing like the smell and feel of a new Camaro!

Actually, nothing like dreaming of it, talking about it, deciding about how you want it..and finally, seeing YOUR choice as you turn the corner at the dealer and see that wonderful sight..

If all goes as planned, I will take Matt out for a Steak dinner. He deserves it after all I went through. You hear me Matt?
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Tom,

Thanks for the offer and I guarantee everything will go smooth. Just as it has so far.
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I love this thread and hope it starts a trend, not just for our beloved camaro, but for car buying in general. Not only is it a wonderful way for the consumer to get the best deal, it's a great way for a good dealer to take a more active role in the buying process. They can go online and actively find customers instead of waiting in a building for people to contact them.
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