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Old 07-28-2007, 04:25 PM   #1
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Hello from the UK and a couple of questions

Hello, Newbie here so go easy
English guy born and bred who just stumbled upon this site today. I will admit I never used to be a fan of american cars, the old "don't know what a corner is" and "such a big engine so little power" stories floating around put me off....

and then a few weeks ago a freind showed me the 5th gen camaro concepts and I was awestruck. I have seen a few of the current mustangs over here but this cars is just...wow!

Anyway little intro aside, just as i start my search into personal imports rules and predicted retail prices I found a press release saying it will be sold here in RHD. But before I get carried aware with myself and head off to the chevy dealer to get put on the list I was wondering if the old hands here could clear up a niggling question for me. See im very big and tall im 6'5" and have a 48" chest. I've always had to go with big saloons/sedans just so I feel comfortable and because of this have never been able to contemplate a european sports car. THe Camaro seems a lot "rommier" but does anyone here think the 5th gen one will comfortably fit someone like me?


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Old 07-28-2007, 04:44 PM   #2
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Hi + Welcome!

If you want to get an idea for size I highly suggest you go and check out the Vauxhall VXR8(Zeta platform mate with the Camaro). The Camaro will be a "big" car for a coupe, and should have plenty of room up front. I'm the same exact height as you are. Trust me, if this car is built for Americans in these times, it's going to be a roomy car. Glad you set aside the pride and are taking a chance, you won't be let down. It can be hard to ignore the negative stereotypes of all things American abroad, but truth is they're just as good as anything else if not, in some cases, better. The Camaro will be able to keep up with any of the imports, and that includes in the corners. EVO wrote a glowing review of the VXR8 last month, really good read and should give some insight into how the Camaro wil perform, which will be nothing short of stellar.

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Old 07-28-2007, 04:48 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick update
i didnt know this car had so much in common with the monaro (the VXR8 as you know it) Every review I have seen it has been hailed as the bargain of the century and in essence an M5/RS4 for half the price. Pitty they are so rare I can't blag a test drive in one at a dealer
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:52 PM   #4
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Didn't the VXR8 just go on sale?

Here's a link to the EVO review of the Vauxhall VRX8 for those that are interested:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...hall_vxr8.html
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:57 PM   #5
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ah yeah that 4 door VXR has just come out, we had this http://www.carpages.co.uk/vauxhall/v...o-21-02-05.asp first, its forbear. same principal, big coupe esq care with an american V8. but only 2 door. cost the same as what the Camaro is rumoured to come in at which for what you get is very cheap.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:53 PM   #6
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I always figured the Camaro was mid-sized. When I think big, I think Caddy Eldorado. I guess big here is a bit different.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:43 PM   #7
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Let's just put it this way...the 5th Gen will be 5 1/2 inches wider than any other Camaro ever built. That means more room for the driver (I would think). Info was also released that the drivers seat (think it was in the Bob's Burger joint in Cali where they had the orange vert) would be lowered for the production model as well as the roof being raised some 14mm. A few people sat in it here on the boards. I don't know their exact heights, but all said there was enough room. Now, they did say that when they sat in the vert, they were looking at the headliner or top of the windshield because they were sitting too high. I'm 6'2" and I'm not tooooooo overly concerned with being able to fit in the new maro.
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A few people sat in it here on the boards. I don't know their exact heights, but all said there was enough room. Now, they did say that when they sat in the vert, they were looking at the headliner or top of the windshield because they were sitting too high.
I've heard that, too. But I guess GM is going to raise the windshield a little to compensate. During an interview, they basically said, it's a concept car, it's not supposed to be comfortable to drive!

And then, of course, it's not supposed to be like that, it'll be raised.


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A little off-topic, but not much. Rear seat comfort - GM said they wanted to mount the front seats on the side of the center bump, and the side of the car, to give room to the rear-passenger's feet.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:32 PM   #9
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Let's just put it this way...the 5th Gen will be 5 1/2 inches wider than any other Camaro ever built. That means more room for the driver (I would think). Info was also released that the drivers seat (think it was in the Bob's Burger joint in Cali where they had the orange vert) would be lowered for the production model as well as the roof being raised some 14mm. A few people sat in it here on the boards. I don't know their exact heights, but all said there was enough room. Now, they did say that when they sat in the vert, they were looking at the headliner or top of the windshield because they were sitting too high. I'm 6'2" and I'm not tooooooo overly concerned with being able to fit in the new maro.
I thought the production car is going to get quite a bit narrower than the concept
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:58 PM   #10
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I will admit I never used to be a fan of american cars, the old "don't know what a corner is" and "such a big engine so little power" stories floating around put me off....
Yea, when i watch reviews on top gear online. All they talk about is how bad american cars are. But usually they end the review with being surprised with how much they have improved. I still love that show, i wish they played them here.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:09 AM   #11
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I thought the production car is going to get quite a bit narrower than the concept
Partially true, I wish I could find the article...but the roof is supposed to be raised by fractions of an inch, the width shrunk by, what? 3/4 of an inch or something like that? and the length by a few mm.

So, no, not "quite a bit", just a Little teensy bit narrower. SO: still wider than ANY Camaro ever produced.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:12 AM   #12
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Is that 3/4" per side?
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:15 AM   #13
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No, it's overall. And 3/4 isn't the real number...I'm sure of that:p, but it's close.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:18 AM   #14
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No, it's overall. And 3/4 isn't the real number...I'm sure of that:p, but it's close.
Oh haha. Well I thought it was something around an inch and a half overall, give or take. Still wide. I'm just hoping that with some modifications it'll be a competent road racer, like the first gen Z/28
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:35 AM   #15
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Don't kid yourself, you know it will.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:04 AM   #16
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I thought the production car is going to get quite a bit narrower than the concept
No. If I remember correctly (and I'm 99% postitive of this), the concept Camaro was being shown, there was an interview and they were talking about the changes to the production model. It was said that the concept was 6 inches wider than any Camaro ever produced. They asked what was going to change. Along with other stuff, it was said that the width would shrink by a 1/2 an inch....still making it 5 1/2 inches wider than any Camaro produced. Give me a couple of min's. I know that thread is here somewhere.
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=change

and...an older thread...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=change
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and another one.....

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Take the coupe specifications and make these changes...
roofline - 12 mm higher
width - 1/2 inch narrower
wheelbase - 50mm longer.

I think this is right.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:14 AM   #19
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Well I'm glad it's keeping it's wide stance. Makes it look better in this case
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Heck yeah!!! IMO, the wider, the better. The better handling, the better cornering...and with the IRS??? Oh yeah... This one's going to ride like a beauty!
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I'm not leaving mine stock. Upgrading the chassis parts, the suspension parts, adding a cage. Not to mention a good bit of massaging some extra power from that LS3. I'm not just aiming for a straight line dragster, I want a well rounded car. Glad to see that GM is making that a reality
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:35 AM   #22
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I like your thinking.


However none of that is happening to mine until the warranty is out or I'm sure that it's not gonna break so I need the warranty after I mod it.

I can't figure out how to spell warranty, and Firefox apparently doesn't think it's a real world...it tries to spell it guarantee.

Eh.
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Warranty is correct. I added an instant dictionary to my Firefox, and dictionary.com accepted "warranty"
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:06 AM   #25
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well it seems more and more boxes are been ticked in the "pros" column
has it been confirmed that the Camaro will have IRS? or i9s that optomisitc speculation at this point?
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