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View Poll Results: Do you want to see an automatic option for the ZL1?
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:45 PM   #76
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im not bashing you auto guys, i know todays autos are faster shifting that a human shifted manual, its is just my personal opinion that you are removing part of the "driver" aspect when you go with an auto... again my Very biased opinion
I always said I miss the 'fun' factor sometimes. But I love my car the way it is. I've started my car for probably 30 of my clients from my office door so they could hear it. I bought the auto for the remote start and so I can eat and drink and relax AND drive crazy fast.
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:45 PM   #77
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honestly if they could get the paddle shifted auto to be compareable to the dare i say exotics..ie. ferrari and lambo...I would be more than on board..but we are far from it..i AM glad they are on the paddle shifted band wagon but untill they get into pneumatic shifted trannys, it is nothing but a dissappointment ....
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honestly if they could get the paddle shifted auto to be compareable to the dare i say exotics..ie. ferrari and lambo...I would be more than on board..but we are far from it..i AM glad they are on the paddle shifted band wagon but untill they get into pneumatic shifted trannys, it is nothing but a dissappointment ....
I won't argue with that. I don't use it. I suck at it. I'd rather a standard over the paddles as far as shifting.
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thank you...and i think if we can get companies like mastershift on the band wagon it will change the perspective of manuals...but untill then...
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...but untill then...
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:05 AM   #81
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No way. Why kill the fun. GT500 owners would laugh at you.
not when your pasting them
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:08 AM   #82
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Hey as long as we are asking for an automatic, why not ask GM to put a little more aggressive converter in there instead of the usual loose and lazy ones for us 1/4 mile guys.
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Would love an auto as long as it doesn't have AFM like my 2010 had. I know it could be tuned out but I didn't want to risk voiding the warranty so I got rid of it to wait for this ZL1 to come along.
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:31 AM   #85
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I voted yes. If the auto is offered I hope its actually faster than the manual.
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I always said I miss the 'fun' factor sometimes. But I love my car the way it is. I've started my car for probably 30 of my clients from my office door so they could hear it. I bought the auto for the remote start and so I can eat and drink and relax AND drive crazy fast.
You eat and drink in your Camaro? Oh, the horror!
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Would love an auto as long as it doesn't have AFM like my 2010 had. I know it could be tuned out but I didn't want to risk voiding the warranty so I got rid of it to wait for this ZL1 to come along.
That is a great point that I haven't seen mentioned so far in this thread.
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You eat and drink in your Camaro? Oh, the horror!
The key to that statement, however, is 'I' eat and drink in it. Me. And me alone.
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Automatic transmissions have advanced technologically. In my opinion they shift faster than humanly possible and quicker than even a professional driver. IMO the only advantage (other than price) that a manual would have is downshifting reducing wear and tear on the brakes.

The automatic transmission will make or break my decision on buying a 2012 ZL-1.
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It is baffling that people wouldn't even want the option available. Isn't that like asking for a color to be discontinued because you don't like it?
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It is baffling that people wouldn't even want the option available. Isn't that like asking for a color to be discontinued because you don't like it?
Worse than that. Actually a little communist if you ask me.
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I don't care about the technology an automatic transmission has or how much faster than me it can shift. I care about having fun when I drive my car.

I'd never buy a car like this with an automatic!
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:23 AM   #93
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I don't care about the technology an automatic transmission has or how much faster than me it can shift. I care about having fun when I drive my car.

I'd never buy a car like this with an automatic!
What does that have to do with having the option available to those who would drive a car with an automatic?
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I don't care about the technology an automatic transmission has or how much faster than me it can shift. I care about having fun when I drive my car.

I'd never buy a car like this with an automatic!
That's fair. If the car didn't have remote start, I'd have bought a manual too. That's how little I care either way. Remote start made my decision for me.

I knew of the 'Manly Man' and 'Cool' factors but didn't care. I grew out of that stuff.

People do ask me sometimes if it's the stick. My response is ALWAYS, "I want to win" and that's it. 99% of the time they assume it's the auto after I say that. They know.
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dont wanna get too off topic but i

just wondering here. who cares if this car sells more then the GT???

seriously?!?!
do you people work for GM? Do you guys own that much stock in the company?

it looks like GM has built a beast of a car. this version of the car looks bad ass. Hopefully they don't do what most car companies do, which is to end up offering a watered down version of the concept as a production model !! that's what you guys should be worried about, not worried about outselling the damn mustang !!

WHO CARES !! Are you guys gonna pull up to cruise nights with Tshirts that say "We outsold the GT !!"

come on !!
I am concerned about the long term success of the brand which is why I want the car to outsell the GT. This car is being designed, developed and produced to be a competitor to the GT500 and therefore if it does not outsell it or at least match it in sales then the ZL1 will be seen as a failure. It doesn't matter if the car outperforms the GT500 if Chevrolet doesn't sell enough of them to make it worth their while. Performance numbers alone don't pay the bills.

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Z06 has no slush-o-matic
ZL1 doesn't need one either.
If you can't shift with the big dogs, get off the porch!!!
You are right the Z06 doesn't have an option for an automatic option which is another stupid decision on GM's part. I guess you could argue that the Z06 is meant as a track car not a every day road car. The ZL1 has the ability to be both and as such is should offer both transmissions. To be honest though even if the Z06 is a track only car....it would be better on the track if they put the right automatic transmission in it

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personally...if you want to see this car in an auto...ask your wife for your balls back...
Ignorant comments like this bother me. If you want to drive a manual then fine drive a manual. There are those of us who prefer automatic (especially if they put a proper paddle shifting gearbox in it). I am not married and the decision is strictly my own. There is nothing more manly over the fact that you get to mash an extra pedal and jerk a little stick around with your right hand.
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It is baffling that people wouldn't even want the option available. Isn't that like asking for a color to be discontinued because you don't like it?
well, as far as the color thing goes... if not enough people buy a certain color... it gets discontinued.

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I don't care about the technology an automatic transmission has or how much faster than me it can shift. I care about having fun when I drive my car.

I'd never buy a car like this with an automatic!
you should drive a stalled automatic with a reverse manual valvebody and a transbrake....

you'll have fun... trust me.

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That's fair. If the car didn't have remote start, I'd have bought a manual too. That's how little I care either way. Remote start made my decision for me.

I knew of the 'Manly Man' and 'Cool' factors but didn't care. I grew out of that stuff.

People do ask me sometimes if it's the stick. My response is ALWAYS, "I want to win" and that's it. 99% of the time they assume it's the auto after I say that. They know.

you aren't a manly man...lmao
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you aren't a manly man...lmao
Apperently.

But my car is already warm when I get in it.
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But my car is already warm when I get in it.
Or cool when it is 115F out.
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It is baffling that people wouldn't even want the option available. Isn't that like asking for a color to be discontinued because you don't like it?
Exactly right.

And my guess is that many of the guys arguing the most passionately against an automatic wouldn't buy the car anyway.

Seriously, are there any legitimate buyers for a ZL1 who would decide against ordering one if an automatic were offered as an option?

I really, really doubt it.

And speaking as someone who owns a manual transmission 2010 SS, there are 100 better ways to define one's virility than by the ability to work a clutch.

I've had manual transmission cars off and on for 30 years. If my next one is an automatic, I'm not going to apologize for it.

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No way. Why kill the fun. GT500 owners would laugh at you.
Well..if you had an automatic you could laugh at the GT500 guys as they tear up looking at your tail lights.
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