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View Poll Results: Do you want to see an automatic option for the ZL1?
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:00 PM   #101
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Well..if you had an automatic you could laugh at the GT500 guys as they tear up looking at your tail lights.
You could do that with a manual, too...the automatic would just let more people do it.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:06 PM   #102
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:59 PM   #103
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No automatics. This would end up equating to too many ZL/1's on the road.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:36 PM   #104
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No automatics. This would end up equating to too many ZL/1's on the road.
And that is a problem how? Chevrolet is in the business of selling cars, the more options that they have to achieve that end, the better. The only reason I haven't voted is I want a manual (and right or wrong I feel it is not right to vote for something I would not purchase); however, the option for an automatic, or a convertible does not diminish the car whatsoever. They made 20k + '69 Z/28's and they still go for a pretty penny these days, so I am not worried about future resale value. Seriously, we are not talking about Chevrolet making this rental car fodder.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:53 PM   #105
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Im no good at manual trans driving. hook me up with an auto!
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:58 PM   #106
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And that is a problem how? Chevrolet is in the business of selling cars, the more options that they have to achieve that end, the better. The only reason I haven't voted is I want a manual (and right or wrong I feel it is not right to vote for something I would not purchase); however, the option for an automatic, or a convertible does not diminish the car whatsoever. They made 20k + '69 Z/28's and they still go for a pretty penny these days, so I am not worried about future resale value. Seriously, we are not talking about Chevrolet making this rental car fodder.
I'm not worried about what it will be worth after I'm pushing up daisies. I just don't want to pass myself around every corner. That's one nice thing about the GT500. You don't see a ton of them riding around. Besides, I'm sure GM is not producing this car to be a high volume seller. That's what V-6's and SS automatics are for.
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No automatics. This would end up equating to too many ZL/1's on the road.
You're right about that. And that's the odd part of no auto offered.
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no! but gm will decide not me. and i'm shure it will shift faster than the manual..
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no! but gm will decide not me. and i'm shure it will shift faster than the manual..
Yes, with your with the foot to the floor for 12 seconds.

In any other situation, a driver makes the best decision on gear selection.
Oh, and that gear selection process... is a lot of fun.
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I can't decide which one. I know I'll have more fun playing around and powershifting and all that jazz with the M6, but I know it will be faster at the strip with some tranny tuning, sticky tires, and looser converter. It'll probably be easier on the rest of the driveline, too. I know if I would get an auto', it'd definately have a converter and tuning in it
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There are very few downfalls in offering the Hydra-Matic 6L90. The first would be cost, NOT to GM but to the buyer. GM produces the 6L90 and was specifically designed for the engines GM produces. The cost to the buyer would add an additional $1800-$2500 dollars to the MSRP. Second, would be the torque rating on the 6L90. The 6L90 is rated at 550tq and could possibly hinder GM from pushing the LSA any higher than it already is (551tq). Third is weight, at 240lbs wet, the 6L90 is still about 40lbs heavier than the 6060 w/Twin mass flywheels and Dual clutch... but its only 40lbs... and lastly, production cost.. offering two different drivetrains could push MSRP up into the unpleasant... separate transmissions, driveshafts, final gear ratios and having the flywheels, clutches/clutch peddle assembly and torque converter on hand to produce what is demanded.

There are far more advantages to just offering the 6L90 in the ZL1 but if GM waited they could have a solid idea of what the demand is for an auto ZL1. They could also avoid the risk involved by offering two ZL1s in the first year and maybe generate some profit. They could also store the 6L90 for next year to generate a buzz by offering something new.. People are already excited, no need to go all in right now..
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No automatics. This would end up equating to too many ZL/1's on the road.
I doubt it. However you cut it, it's still going to be an expensive car.

And if there were.....I don't see it as a problem?
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As long as it doesn't effect the price of a manual - sure, why not? However, I'll take mine with both feet please.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:53 PM   #114
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IMO the only advantage (other than price) that a manual would have is downshifting reducing wear and tear on the brakes.
I've done that with every auto I've ever owned.
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Automatic transmission!!! - Yes

I vote yes! Would love to have it in automatic
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I doubt it. However you cut it, it's still going to be an expensive car.

And if there were.....I don't see it as a problem?
I agree, I don't think it will be as common as the typical RS and SS we see everywhere these days. I don't see too many GT500's compared to the regular Mustang. Not everyone will be able to afford it. Im not sure if I will be able to afford it myself. Thus resulting in fewer ZL1's on the roadways.
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I predict no auto for the ZL1. I think Chevrolet wants to release a no nonsense brute for the hardcore Only. It should mirror the GT 500 in that respect and surpass it in performance (which it will) It could even be a marketing angle. "The ZL1 makes babies cry, puppies pee, and sets off car alarms at a cruising idle, Oh yeah- and did I mention it only comes in stick?!" Or "The New ZL1 can be your grocery getter...if you like broken eggs". First year ZL1s no. Later years have AT? maybe. Hey GM! Who would you rather chafe cowboys who won't drink whisky in a saloon that serves rootbeer. Or rootbeer drinkers? In a few years cars like this won't be possible. History is watching! Make an "Mythical, unfriendly Camaro ZL1"
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So I guess America is still an automatic car country...

Personally I'd never choose an automatic in such a car. I already hated the fact that I had to buy the Range with an automatic as no other options available...
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Absolutely yes.


I will/want to buy a manual. However, I'd like to see the Z be available to as many enthusiasts as possible!!
This!

No need to snub the guys that didn't cut their teeth on a clutch pedal! Spread the love!
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I personally would not buy an auto unless it is able to get past the gas guzzler tax. The M6 has at best a very small chance of getting by without the tax and the automatic virtually no chance of getting by without having the tax. The auto will be a $1200.00 option and the gas guzzler tax another $1200.00. Too much of a penalty for the auto. Right now I am just crossing my fingers that the ZL1 M6 will not have the gas guzzler penalty.
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I doubt it. However you cut it, it's still going to be an expensive car.

And if there were.....I don't see it as a problem?
Do you know something we don't?

I don't really think $50,000 is really all the expensive for a car these days.
Many people spent more on SUV's and Trucks. If they made automatics there would no doubt be a lot more of them around. (Unless GM limited production to keep them rare)
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I personally would not buy an auto unless it is able to get past the gas guzzler tax. The M6 has at best a very small chance of getting by without the tax and the automatic virtually no chance of getting by without having the tax. The auto will be a $1200.00 option and the gas guzzler tax another $1200.00. Too much of a penalty for the auto. Right now I am just crossing my fingers that the ZL1 M6 will not have the gas guzzler penalty.
That EPS may be the saving grace from the gas guzzler. I'm not saying I'd necessarily be disappointed in the big "technology" push from GM if ZL1 doesn't manage to eek by the GG tax, like the Shelby does, but that wouldn't look too good, IMO. However, it takes gas to make power, and it ZL1 delievers the power and performance, I won't think twice.
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I personally would not buy an auto unless it is able to get past the gas guzzler tax. The M6 has at best a very small chance of getting by without the tax and the automatic virtually no chance of getting by without having the tax. The auto will be a $1200.00 option and the gas guzzler tax another $1200.00. Too much of a penalty for the auto. Right now I am just crossing my fingers that the ZL1 M6 will not have the gas guzzler penalty.

Yes but if someone is willing to pay the extra 2400.00 they should be able to have the automatic
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I would like too..I love manuals, but I would not be able to convince the wife to trade up without an auto. She drives my SS once in a blue moon..
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