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Old 02-09-2011, 11:17 PM   #1
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so this is called the zl1 (which makes sense in terms of power) no reason to bash it because it not called a z28 because just in a year the z28 will probably be out if not earlier than a year. Why do i say that? because, the camaro trims seemed based on the transformers movies for example: the concept bumblebee is our beloved v6 while in transformers 2 its the zl1, so after seeing how the styling of bumblebee in t3 is I'm sure that its the z28 *jay leno* it makes perfect sense.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:20 PM   #2
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IDK about that. lol

but I think GM is gunna build the Z28 to compete for the Boss 302.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:21 PM   #3
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they better build the Z28
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IDK about that. lol

but I think GM is gunna build the Z28 to compete for the Boss 302.
but the boss is a waste of money IMO. my friends 5.0L with some mods is already faster then the boss. if the z/28 turns out like the boss then that will be a waste to i feel like. it would have been so epic to see that z/28 with a supercharger
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i think there will be a Z28 built at some time.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:44 PM   #6
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I still expect a Z28, especially after the discussion pointed out that there isn't anything in the Boss-fighting spot. The GM reps acknowledged that point and suggested that they might be interested in going that route in their classic, cryptic way.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:01 AM   #7
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but the boss is a waste of money IMO. my friends 5.0L with some mods is already faster then the boss. if the z/28 turns out like the boss then that will be a waste to i feel like. it would have been so epic to see that z/28 with a supercharger
I don't think the Boss 302 is a waste of money at all. I personally think that's its reasonably priced.

IMO you can't compare the Boss to a 5.0 because there's allot of features the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. Like for example the Recaro Racing Seats, Dual Mode Exhaust, Track Ready Suspension, and a factory Race Tune. thats just a couple feature the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. and the best part you get all that with a Full Factory warranty.

I don't think a moded/stock 5.0 will be faster than a moded/stock Boss 302.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:28 AM   #8
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but the boss is a waste of money IMO. my friends 5.0L with some mods is already faster then the boss
IMO its a waste to compare a modded car to a factory spec car.....
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:43 AM   #9
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The Z/28 should be a car with 475HP, suspension capable of over 1g, weight reduction, lighter rims, great braking, short throw shifter, special seats, new hood/spoiler, full length racing stripes mandatory, (like convertible concept) splitters, wider tires, special exhaust, and anything else to make it a true attainable top-level drivers car. That right there is enough to make people forget about the Boss and run to the Z28.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:51 AM   #10
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Im pretty sure theyll be going after the BOSS and heck you never know, it might actually be the twin turbo 6 like the leno car
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:58 AM   #11
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Im pretty sure theyll be going after the BOSS and heck you never know, it might actually be the twin turbo 6 like the leno car
I sure hope not!!
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:00 AM   #12
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:45 AM   #13
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A nice LS7 in a Z28 would rock. Do not supercharge it but have be full of low end torque for road racing. And put a great track handling package on it. Would then put a price right between the SS and ZL1.
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the Z28 should come with lsx 454 from factory
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:30 AM   #15
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A nice LS7 in a Z28 would rock. Do not supercharge it but have be full of low end torque for road racing. And put a great track handling package on it. Would then put a price right between the SS and ZL1.

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Old 02-10-2011, 08:50 AM   #16
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If they do in fact make a Z28, I sure hope it is a lot lighter with full track package and a 302 cid and take Ford on head to head like they did in 67-69. Show what GM can do with a high revving 302 for road course racing applications. The Boss is specifically designed for road courses, so IMO for GM to give the Z28 name plate justification it has to go back to those roots.
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I don't think the Boss 302 is a waste of money at all. I personally think that's its reasonably priced.

IMO you can't compare the Boss to a 5.0 because there's allot of features the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. Like for example the Recaro Racing Seats, Dual Mode Exhaust, Track Ready Suspension, and a factory Race Tune. thats just a couple feature the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. and the best part you get all that with a Full Factory warranty.

I don't think a moded/stock 5.0 will be faster than a moded/stock Boss 302.
The Laguna Seca version 302 is a pretty interesting animal. A mix of old and new technology. For example, it has dual sets of keys for running the car in two different performance modes, but the rear seat delete option with cross bar bracing and six way manual adjustable shock absorber valving is archaic in my opinion. Not practical for the street, and seems limited for road racing competiton. Besides, by their very nature just look more like aftermarket additions than modern factory designed hardware. It's still pretty cool. To each his own.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:20 AM   #18
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A nice LS7 in a Z28 would rock. Do not supercharge it but have be full of low end torque for road racing. And put a great track handling package on it. Would then put a price right between the SS and ZL1.
that would be just like the Base Corvette, Z06 and ZR1 I dont see why they couldnt do that
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #19
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This is just MHO....There is already a DI V8 coming very soon. We have heard of different displacements, the most popular has been the 5.5l and the 6.2. Strangae as this sounds, I would love to hearken back the the high revving 302 in the 1st gens, and load a 5.5 VVT DI with some special cam, let it redline at something really stupid like 8000 rpm, put a DCT 8 speed (I know, don't be hatin') and watch that thing turn 12's.
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I don't think the Boss 302 is a waste of money at all. I personally think that's its reasonably priced.

IMO you can't compare the Boss to a 5.0 because there's allot of features the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. Like for example the Recaro Racing Seats, Dual Mode Exhaust, Track Ready Suspension, and a factory Race Tune. thats just a couple feature the Boss have that the 5.0 doesn't. and the best part you get all that with a Full Factory warranty.

I don't think a moded/stock 5.0 will be faster than a moded/stock Boss 302.
i know what your are saying. i guess i really wanted the z/28 to be better then isn't going to be
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:04 PM   #21
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The Z/28 should be a car with 475HP, suspension capable of over 1g, weight reduction, lighter rims, great braking, short throw shifter, special seats, new hood/spoiler, full length racing stripes mandatory, (like convertible concept) splitters, wider tires, special exhaust, and anything else to make it a true attainable top-level drivers car. That right there is enough to make people forget about the Boss and run to the Z28.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:09 PM   #22
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I want the Z/28 when/if it comes out, not the ZL1. Pull the LSa, drop a pumped up LS7, and put the car on a factory diet.....I'll buy it, as long as it has the Z/28 moniker on it. Or just wait til the 6th gen platform comes out and build it lighter. I just hate to have to wait that long.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #23
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The only thing I'll say is this....

I've seen too many comments today dogging on the ZL1 because of its name, or a number of other unknowns at this point. These comments are in the minority -- but in my opinon, any one of them is too many.

So I ask:

Whatever happens...please don't take out your passionate frustrations on other members...other Camaro drivers...other "family". From the LS to the ZL1...they're all CAMAROS....and I don't think anyone here can deny that every offering in the Camaro line is absolutely amazing in its own right.

Know that the Camaro team is as passionate, and enthusiastic as you are - and that they're listening.

And remember the name Camaro means "friend, pal, or comrade", as Fbodfather always says. Enjoy what we have, look to the future, and don't be nasty about it.

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the Z28 should come with lsx 454 from factory
Well, short stroke smaller cubed high rpm engines with close ratio gear boxes are best suited for the twisties...long stroke big cube motors run best down the straightaways. The smaller outruns the bigger in turns, and visa versa in the straights. Ford is producing a high reving short stroke 302 for the Boss 302, Chevy stopped making an equivalent along time ago. So.....whats is gonna be then for the Z28....current LS displacements are too big for true road track racing IMHO. I can only wonder what they are gonna cook up!.
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The only thing I'll say is this....

I've seen too many comments today dogging on the ZL1 because of its name, or a number of other unknowns at this point. These comments are in the minority -- but in my opinon, any one of them is too many.

So I ask:

Whatever happens...please don't take out your passionate frustrations on other members...other Camaro drivers...other "family". From the LS to the ZL1...they're all CAMAROS....and I don't think anyone here can deny that every offering in the Camaro line is absolutely amazing in its own right.

Know that the Camaro team is as passionate, and enthusiastic as you are - and that they're listening.

And remember the name Camaro means "friend, pal, or comrade", as Fbodfather always says. Enjoy what we have, look to the future, and don't be nasty about it.

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