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Old 02-10-2011, 02:03 PM   #1
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2012 ZL1 LSA Engine and Transmission photos.

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Old 02-10-2011, 02:45 PM   #2
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:56 PM   #3
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very nice, thanks for the images.
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What i wanted was diagrams of the radio controls! Gzus! JK


What would be nice is to absolutely be able to get a complete mechanics shop manual as soon as it becomes available. No telling what non-dealer shops would do to ruin a good car by not knowing exactly how to service this swiss watch!
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Old 02-10-2011, 07:08 PM   #6
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:05 AM   #7
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Hay...
Most of your pics are not the 2012 ZL1 LSA engine...
I think only the 1st 2 pics are the real deal...
The supercharger has changed for 2012...
The front view belt layout is all wrong too, as the 2012 ZL1 gets an electric
power steering pump, + water pump , alternator, pulleys, specific to the Camaro chassis...
New ZL1 specific stainless cast exhaust manifolds to fit the Camaro exhaust...
etc , etc , etc

This thread shouldn't be a 'Sticky' , unless it's the real deal....

Since your a 'mod' ,change the title of this thread to:
General 2009-2012 LSA Engine and Transmission photos (hi-res engine porn)

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Old 02-11-2011, 01:49 AM   #8
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Hay...
Most of your pics are not the 2012 ZL1 LSA engine...
I think only the 1st 2 pics are the real deal...
The supercharger has changed for 2012...
I know. But it is the exact same engine except for very minor components. The supercharger is the same, the only difference in the top is the color of the intercooler cover. Trust me I know. I will update with actual ZL1 LSA pics as soon as they become available.
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We have that nice ZL1 LSA blow-up though I'm sure that MG9 is going to be exactly the same as CTS-V, too. If I run across something, before you find it, I'll send it to ya'. You KNOW I'll be looking

Like Brando', I will be making sex it my engine, too, LOL!
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:06 AM   #10
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:57 AM   #11
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Have you guys noticed the crank is not pinned.
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:56 PM   #12
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Hay...
Most of your pics are not the 2012 ZL1 LSA engine...
I think only the 1st 2 pics are the real deal...
The supercharger has changed for 2012...
The front view belt layout is all wrong too, as the 2012 ZL1 gets an electric
power steering pump, + water pump , alternator, pulleys, specific to the Camaro chassis...
New ZL1 specific stainless cast exhaust manifolds to fit the Camaro exhaust...
etc , etc , etc

This thread shouldn't be a 'Sticky' , unless it's the real deal....

Since your a 'mod' ,change the title of this thread to:
General 2009-2012 LSA Engine and Transmission photos (hi-res engine porn)
Once again......
These are the differences
■Black intercooler housing with unique heat exchanger and plumbing to accommodate the Camaro engine compartment
■Cast stainless steel exhaust manifolds for enhanced thermal management
■Camaro-specific oil pan
■Revised accessory drive with unique alternator and air conditioning compressor
■Idler pulley in place of the conventional power steering pump pulley, because of the use of electric power steering
■Special engine cover in red

So the only visible differences are in the first three full engine pics, which clearly have wither the Cadillac emblem or the white intercooler housing that we all know belongs to the CTS-V.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME.
The block, heads, crank, etc. IS THE SAME AS THE ZL1 LSA.
So we are using these for now since we don't have pictures of the full ZL1 engine.
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Have you guys noticed the crank is not pinned.
WHAT?! I have to look again ...

I'm reporting Milk' for posting naughty pictures.
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That is one bad ass engine, and best of all it finally looks good, as long as it comes looking as above.
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I would make the sex with that engine.

True Dat.


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Question Synthetic Oils in other components??

Differential?
Transimission?
Steering?
Brakes?
Intercooler?

I am wondering if there is a benefit or risk to using synthetic in each of the above? It seems on the surface that synthetics are the way to go, but I have heard that in superchargers, it can cause overspin and failure..

Anybody have any overviews on this subject to share?
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:40 PM   #20
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Differential?
Transimission?
Steering?
Brakes?
Intercooler?

I am wondering if there is a benefit or risk to using synthetic in each of the above? It seems on the surface that synthetics are the way to go, but I have heard that in superchargers, it can cause overspin and failure..

Anybody have any overviews on this subject to share?


I believe there may be a thread for this somewhere else, but since you asked I'll tell you a personal story that illustrates the point that sometimes you can get too slippery.

I had just gotten my Hayabusa broken in at about 5k miles when a buddy started telling me about how awesome Amsoil synthetic is. I did some research and a few people were claiming 5+ additional horsepower just from lack of friction. I figured heck, why not, I need 175 hp instead of 170.

It only took about another thousand miles for my roller bearing in the clutch basket to wear grooves because it was sliding instead of rolling.

Repair & replace oil.

Moral of the story: Use a fluid recommended by the manufacturer or at least one with the same specifications.


You may now return to your regularly scheduled engine thread.


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I believe I read somewhere that Procharger uses sythetic oil. That's specifically formuled, though, so I'd just go with what the manufacturer says. GM was using Mobile 1 in 'Vettes since LT1s, that I can recall (I don't honestlt know about now, though - I haven't noticed). SLP SSs and WS6s came with a synthetic oil package in the 4th Gen, too, if I remember right (Quaker State I think).

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I believe there may be a thread for this somewhere else, but since you asked I'll tell you a personal story that illustrates the point that sometimes you can get too slippery.

I had just gotten my Hayabusa broken in at about 5k miles when a buddy started telling me about how awesome Amsoil synthetic is. I did some research and a few people were claiming 5+ additional horsepower just from lack of friction. I figured heck, why not, I need 175 hp instead of 170.

It only took about another thousand miles for my roller bearing in the clutch basket to wear grooves because it was sliding instead of rolling.

Repair & replace oil.

Moral of the story: Use a fluid recommended by the manufacturer or at least one with the same specifications.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled engine thread.

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A story like this really makes me concerned. I've only used sythetics in the motor and rear end for as long as I've owned cars (not my near-20-year-old 4Runner, though - that thing would just piss it out of all the leak zones, lol). I don't doubt your experience at all, so I would just like to make that clear.

I've read stories about your oil, and RP making almost 10 more RWHP on cars going from straight petro' to sythetics, front-to-back. I don't know how scientific the tests were, but I remember those, too.

Over at LS1tech, there was a 'Vette guy that literally spent tens of thousands of miles testing almost all of the major brand oils in his 'Vette. He would actually send samples off to a lab to check for the different metals and other qualities after a given amount of miles. I'll try to remember his name, and you'd have to search through posts from almost 10 years ago, but he did find sythetics did make a difference. Whether or not that difference was beneficial in all applications, I don't know, but he tested on his LS1 C5, so that's what I know.
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Red face Don't mean to be off topic..

so i apologize if so. But this IS about tranny's & engines and I know many of you WILL use synthetic in the engine. I see no problem there. I, too, have read stories that overspin can happen in superchargers.

But, in the interest of making our cars last as long as possible (while some may be driven much less than others) its nice to have lubricants that really do improve reliability. Not necessarily performance, but RELIABILITY.

I could care less about 5 or 10 more horespower, but I would like to make my master cylinder last longer, make my brake lines less likely to collapse, keep the transmission gunk free, etc etc.......

Thanks for not booting me fellas! I'm just trying to educate myself and not let anyone convince me to do the wrong thing with this piece of heritage when I get it.
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so i apologize if so. But this IS about tranny's & engines and I know many of you WILL use synthetic in the engine. I see no problem there. I, too, have read stories that overspin can happen in superchargers.

But, in the interest of making our cars last as long as possible (while some may be driven much less than others) its nice to have lubricants that really do improve reliability. Not necessarily performance, but RELIABILITY.

I could care less about 5 or 10 more horespower, but I would like to make my master cylinder last longer, make my brake lines less likely to collapse, keep the transmission gunk free, etc etc.......

Thanks for not booting me fellas! I'm just trying to educate myself and not let anyone convince me to do the wrong thing with this piece of heritage when I get it.
I don't recall hearing anything about overspinning superchargers, however, the first thing I thought of when you posted that was the supercharger is always mechanically connected to the engine (except in a Mercedes, where I thought I've seen an actual SC clutch, like an AC compressor), so in order for an SC to be overspun, the pulley size would have to be such that it goes out of it's operating range, or both the engine and SC are over-rev'd from missing a shift and such.

I know I'm sold on synthetics in the engine, a manual trans., and rear end, but am still on the fence with a slushbox.
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does any one know if the p.s. delete bracket is avalible yet that is in the picture of the 2012 lsa engine.
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