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Old 02-04-2009, 06:33 PM   #26
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Then stick with the prelude?
idk what you're getting at.
LS3 is a good motor. Probably run 150 thousand miles before you run into problems if you treat it right.



im sure it is, and the warranty backs it up.



but what if gm dies? is that warranty still good?
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:36 PM   #27
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i have had too many 4 cylinders, need something different. i have to have a v8. need to try something new
Then get an SS and I'm sure you'll be happy. It'll be a bit quicker than the prelude.
There's nothing wrong with the LS3, it's just a different kind of motor than ford's modular engines.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:36 PM   #28
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Yeah, that's what I don't get. If you are really concerned about speed, torque is what's really gonna get you going fast. Horsepower is a great number, but torque gives you an idea of how quick you are gonna get to that speed.


And is this new 400 hp 5.0 actually in any vehicle yet?



i think the mustang is getting it next year.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:38 PM   #29
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Then get an SS and I'm sure you'll be happy. It'll be a bit quicker than the prelude.
There's nothing wrong with the LS3, it's just a different kind of motor than ford's modular engines.
it will be much quicker than the lude!!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:38 PM   #30
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im sure it is, and the warranty backs it up.



but what if gm dies? is that warranty still good?
I don't know if GM would have any kind of warranty protection if they go under. But honestly, I don't think you have to worry about that.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:51 PM   #31
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i think the mustang is getting it next year.
jesus, that's next year...


what the hell are you bantering about?


i sure dont see you asking what if ford goes under and that engine never happens...


go troll somewhere else, your not the ls3 type.


perhapes a smart car will suit you better.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:54 PM   #32
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jesus, that's next year...


what the hell are you bantering about?


i sure dont see you asking what if ford goes under and that engine never happens...


go troll somewhere else, your not the ls3 type.


perhapes a smart car will suit you better.



im just asking questions, no need to get all emotional and kick others out.

screw that homo smart car
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:14 PM   #33
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we've explained to you, the ls3 will last just as long as any foreign motor... 200k+ miles.


questions answered.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:20 PM   #34
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Ford will never outpower GM with a naturally aspirated engine. Ever since they adapted the "cammer" design, it's been a losing battle. If the new 5.0 is the OHV design, it still won't compare with HP and still get decent MPG's!
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:00 PM   #35
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Versions of the LS series of engines have been in production since their introduction in the 97 model year Corvettes. In that time, millions of LS series engines have appeared in F-Bodys, Vettes, GTO's, CTS-V's, new G8 GT/GXP's, FWD Grand Prix's, Monte Carlos, Impalas, small block V8 GM full size pickups, full-size Sport Utes (Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon/XL, Escalade), mid-size Sport Utes (Trailblazer, Envoy). There are probably more models that I haven't mentioned here, not including those that have been retrofitted into classic muscle cars.

As far as why the displacement is large compared to Ford's mod-motor V8's, in simple terms, a naturally aspirated motor with large displacements make more horsepower at lower RPM's than naturally aspirated smaller displacement motors. To make another example with the S2000, peak horsepower is made at 7800 RPM's and it's torque peak is at 6800 RPM's. What it means is, unless you really rev it, it's a pig. On the other hand, the S2000 is a light car and the engine rev's really quick, so it happens to be alot of fun to scream around at 8000 RPM's in small doses or on an autocross track but you have to really be willing to work at keeping the rev's above 6000 RPM's. You have to heel and toe the gas and brake in turns to keep the rev's up, and in a daily driver, it can be tiresome if you're not a car dork.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:54 PM   #36
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This thread makes me want to punt kittens.
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:04 PM   #38
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i seriously annoyed with this thread.


the LSx series motors are quite literally the best v8's known to man, you know why the ford motors make power on less Cubic Inches is because they uses a less efficient tune. the Hemi and the 4.6 l fotf both require 4 catalytic converters to become emissions legal while the ls motors only need 2 (1 for each bank)

more HP, More Torque, Excellent Reliability, easy to repair, not overly complicated all these add up to make it the best v8 ever
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:44 PM   #39
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bigger is better enough said.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:15 AM   #41
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jesus, that's next year...


what the hell are you bantering about?


i sure dont see you asking what if ford goes under and that engine never happens...


go troll somewhere else, your not the ls3 type.


perhapes a smart car will suit you better.
Two things...First, I love this post...Second, I can't believe I wasted 10 mins. reading this thread!!! This is 'merica, and in 'merica we love big engines, P-E-R-I-O-D...
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:11 AM   #42
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the v6 is doing 0-60 in 6.2, my prelude is around the same area.



i need something faster. The v6 camaro is not going to be enough.
are you NUTS? my prelude (97) almost did 0-6 in under 8 sec...
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:35 AM   #43
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Just one thing. It's perfectly valid to wonder about the warranty of a GM product because they had to take government money to survive.

Ford has not to this day and claims they do not need to. If that changes, then you can call the comparison invalid, but not until then. Given that things can't get much worse, I assume they won't hit that point.

GM is however, over extended in the marketplace, and GMAC was tied into a lot of bad home mortgage assets. I assume that since their financing arm was cleared to become a bank, and GM got some govt money, that it will be fine.

But I'm pretty sure a lot of you don't know just how close GM was to filing bankruptcy.
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Just one thing. It's perfectly valid to wonder about the warranty of a GM product because they had to take government money to survive.

Ford has not to this day and claims they do not need to. If that changes, then you can call the comparison invalid, but not until then. Given that things can't get much worse, I assume they won't hit that point.

GM is however, over extended in the marketplace, and GMAC was tied into a lot of bad home mortgage assets. I assume that since their financing arm was cleared to become a bank, and GM got some govt money, that it will be fine.

But I'm pretty sure a lot of you don't know just how close GM was to filing bankruptcy.
they would still honor warranties if they declared bankruptcy.

stop running around like chicken little
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:45 AM   #45
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You just got to understand where you live and what kind of car we are here for. If you do not get it when I say "there is no replacement for displacement" or you don't get it when I state that "some times you just got to let the big dog eat", you may need to ask yourself if you need this car or need to be here on this forum. You can always go get one of those small displacement ring-ding-ding things and stick one of thiose big fart cans on it, I don't think anyone here is going to care.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:46 AM   #46
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Just one thing. It's perfectly valid to wonder about the warranty of a GM product because they had to take government money to survive.

Ford has not to this day and claims they do not need to. If that changes, then you can call the comparison invalid, but not until then. Given that things can't get much worse, I assume they won't hit that point.

GM is however, over extended in the marketplace, and GMAC was tied into a lot of bad home mortgage assets. I assume that since their financing arm was cleared to become a bank, and GM got some govt money, that it will be fine.

But I'm pretty sure a lot of you don't know just how close GM was to filing bankruptcy.
fair enough, do you know why ford doesn't need the money yet?


they financed away alot of the ip (including the rights to the blue oval) months before this...

yes they have cash in reserve, enough to not need government loans but it's only because they've already taken a loan out.

now, we run into the situation of ford needing money and it gets really bad considering they already owe on loans due to that financing.


just some stuff to keep in mind. there's alot more that goes on then what the general public is told on all sides of the equation.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:47 AM   #47
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The LS2/3 motors start life as a Corvette motor. To get real world facts, figures and commentary I suggest you visit the Corvette Forum and see for your self what over 125,000 (double that if you include the LS1/LS6 motors) vette owners have to say about these motors.

BTW in real world driving my modded (exhaust/intake) 06 Vette returns 30+ MPG that's equal to my wifes 08 I4 Accord. These motor's are bullet proof.

Geez there is an entire community of car owners that can speak with authority and from experience about these motors. Take advantage of this. It's not like these motors are brand new, they have millions of miles on them owned and operated by some of the most die hard gear heads on the planet.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:54 AM   #48
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If only coach would have put me in.....back in 82 we would have won State....no doubt about it.....Dude, the GM small block V8 is bullet proof, it always has been. My advice would be to stay with the Honda and continue to complain about the Camaro being too...(fill in the blank) and not (fill in the blank) enough; in order to justify why you don't have one.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:07 AM   #50
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Troll check -

1. Comes on Chevy board talking about how great a ford is

2. Talks about owning many cars, but is obviously under 25

3. Knows what JDM is...and uses it often (can we say ricer?)

4. Claims to want "information" but argues when you give it to him

5. Talks about how a high rev low torque engine is somehow superior to anything else (see the comment in number 3)


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