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Old 05-16-2011, 06:37 PM   #101
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Are you gonna do the water pump and pulley separate? I'd like to see the gain of each. I didn't think yank was a reworked stock convertor? I was either going with one of those or a vigilante. I picked up almost a second on my third gen with a vigilante.
I was speaking in general about TCs. I don't know all the ones that are reworked or new, just what I have. But I do frequently go with the ones I have experience with, so for you, go with what you're comfortable with.

For ease, I'm doing both the pulley and EWP at the same time. Should be a pretty simple install. I just have to decide on the wiring (e.g. if I want a commanded override in the cabin).

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Old 05-16-2011, 06:38 PM   #102
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:56 PM   #103
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I was speaking in general about TCs. I don't know all the ones that are reworked or new, just what I have. But I do frequently go with the ones I have experience with, so for you, go with what you're comfortable with.

For ease, I'm doing both the pulley and EWP at the same time. Should be a pretty simple install. I just have to decide on the wiring (e.g. if I want a commanded override in the cabin).

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Gotcha! I'd really like to see the difference between both but I'm imagining that each by themselves might be worth half a tenth and half a mph. Prolly pick up a tenth with both. That's my prediction.
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:53 PM   #104
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Great thread Padre.
Quick question, has your JBA HF cats caused a code?
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:00 PM   #105
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Great thread Padre.
Quick question, has your JBA HF cats caused a code?
Yes, but that was due to a leak at the collector. The fitment to the OEM manifold is not great. I retightened it and it went away (lean code). The fitment now with the JBA shorties is good.

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Old 05-17-2011, 07:22 AM   #106
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Gotcha! I'd really like to see the difference between both but I'm imagining that each by themselves might be worth half a tenth and half a mph. Prolly pick up a tenth with both. That's my prediction.
I may move up the Meziere electric water pump install a bit. We're getting summer temperatures this weekend, and if the EWP can help me keep the temps down when it's 90* out, it'll be worth every dime.

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Old 05-17-2011, 08:02 AM   #107
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Padre, your doing your own tuning right? Have you messed with the throttle squirt? I know on my third gen if I had it too rich or lean it would result in a not so great launch. Just an idea, you may have to tweak it when advancing the timing down low.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:16 PM   #108
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Padre, your doing your own tuning right? Have you messed with the throttle squirt? I know on my third gen if I had it too rich or lean it would result in a not so great launch. Just an idea, you may have to tweak it when advancing the timing down low.
Yes, I do my own tuning, but I'm not familiar with throttle squirt. I did find a limit to the timing down low, but the only change I made to the power enrich (commanded AFR at WOT) was a flub run. I'm going to wait till I finish the bolt-ons and get a Wideband O2 sensor before I start messing with AFR and fueling (plus the VE on Gen IV motors is virtual and a lot more complicated, and I don't know enough yet).

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Old 05-17-2011, 10:28 PM   #109
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Here are my horsepower log for now, a rough draft. Still need to double and triple check the numbers.



All that is BHP (flywheel horsepower), of course.

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Old 05-18-2011, 10:05 AM   #110
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I'd rather you post un corrected numbers. To me that's more accurate. It is what it is.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:40 AM   #111
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I'd rather you post un corrected numbers. To me that's more accurate. It is what it is.
I agree, but corrected numbers give me an idea of the magnitude of the changes. For example, as in the other thread, I thought the Shorties gained more power than the Midpipes. But that was mainly because of weather, and corrected numbers give a better idea of what to expect, and the difference then was very interesting.

I can still do an uncorrected chart, though.

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Old 05-18-2011, 10:44 AM   #112
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Didn't think about that. I understand now
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:30 PM   #113
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Confused, so you never ran stock, you want with the Borla catback? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Great chart btw, I like to see uncorrected and corrected.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:05 PM   #114
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Confused, so you never ran stock, you want with the Borla catback? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Great chart btw, I like to see uncorrected and corrected.
My first run was with the Borla Touring Cat-back. All else stock.

Well, everyone insists that Cat-backs add ZERO horsepower. So to all those, then my first run with the with the Borla Touring Cat-back was STOCK and should be on the bone stock list.

But that's splitting hairs. All I care about is the 1.1+ ET and 6+MPH gains since.

However, just for fun, since I'll be finished with all my bolt-ons soon, I'll swap the stock exhaust (resonator and trash cans and all) back in and do a day at the track. If I LOSE ET and MPH (all else being equal), then the "they say Cat-backs add ZERO power" crowd will have some 'spainin to do. That, or it will be empirical proof that Cat-backs add no power and the Conventional Wisdom is right this time.

As it is, the "Shorties are for sound only and add no power" crowd are still scratching their heads.

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...By far my favorite build. Keep going sir.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:37 PM   #116
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Padre, have you weighed your car?
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:14 PM   #117
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Any update? You put the pulley and water pump on?
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:58 PM   #118
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Solid numbers!!!

Love what you're doing with the car!
Padre, you must be doing well for the Master to speak. Proceed.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:00 AM   #119
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:09 AM   #120
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Too hot yesterday, so I stayed at home. The DA was over 3000, and the only change was a 160* thermostat. But the gears, EWP and UDP should be in this week or next and I'll be back at the the track for that 11-second slip in two weeks, I hope.

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Old 05-24-2011, 05:40 PM   #121
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Well, things are moving. I took my Fiero down to WhoDeanie's Customs in Woodstock, GA, and they got her running in less than a day. Yay! I came across WhoDeanie's when I went to visit John at Atlanta Performance and Fabrication (forum sponsor). They are helping me with the final bolt-ons: the 3.45 gear pumpkin, the Meziere electric water pump, and the SLP underdrive pulley.

We are also doing BMR front and rear sways, BMR 1" lowering springs, a tranny cooler (B&M 70297).

For anybody who wants to race, I plan on joining the LS1GTO gang for their get-together in Bristol Dragway, Tennessee before they do a Dragon Run next week. So, http://bristolstreetfights.com/ Thursday evening, June 2nd, 5pm-9pm. Weather pending.

If weather or other events prevent the Bristol race, then I'll be in Steele, Alabama on Sunday afternoon, June 5th.

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You do have one clean Fiero From what I understand that colors pretty rare too.

We'll get these parts on the Camaro this week and hopefully see some 11's next week
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Any update? You put the pulley and water pump on?
+1 i'm thinking about this water pump? did i miss it? are you doing the work on the car yourself?
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+1 i'm thinking about this water pump? did i miss it? are you doing the work on the car yourself?
Up till now, I've done most the work. APF is helping me with the final parts. I don't have a place to do all the work (no garage, just a yard), and the suspension parts need a lift.

The Meziere electric water pump will 1) enable and maintain cooling, especially for drag racing, and 2) free up some rotational horsepower from the accessories.

I'll have an override-on switch on the EWP so that I can turn it on in the staging lanes or even with power-on/engine-off, which means heads-up races and delays at the track won't be a problem because I won't be stopping for a half-hour at a time to ice the blower like my oppponents.

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