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Old 05-15-2011, 07:18 PM   #71
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Awesome!
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12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:17 PM   #72
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Here are the details from today's trip.

- I am no longer a believer in AFM. Had it on the way to the track, 24.2 mpg. Disabled it on the way back, 23.6 mpg. On, I noticed surging, without it, smooth as silk. And don't get me started on the annoying rattle (made worse by my cat-back and shorties/midpipes). So, buh bye AFM!

- Light, steady rain on the way home. My Nitto 555R drag radials handle it no problem at 70 mph. But after I get 50 passes, then I won't be doing that any more.

- Out of the box, first pass, I ran a 12.308 @ 112.69, 1.706. Next up a 12.228 @ 112.95, 1.695. I was happy then and could have gone home.

- But I decided to experiment with the VVT and PE tables. No results. So I decided to fine-tune the spark. Some advance in the 2000-3000 range, pulled some at peak torque, and smoothed out the table. Most of the runs were in the 12.2's @ 112 with 1.6-1.7 sixties.

The results, 8th run of the day, as above (timeslip attached):

Sixty: 1.653
330: 5.021
1/8: 7.799 @ 88.66
1/4: 12.191 @ 112.89

Am I happy?

Next up, 3.45's and maybe a trip to the track next Sunday.

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Old 05-16-2011, 08:12 AM   #73
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Oh, and the video!



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Old 05-16-2011, 08:33 AM   #74
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Nice build Padre, I love your whels, what are they?
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:46 AM   #75
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See page #1 or this post:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=16

Basically, 18" TSW Nurburgrings with Nitto 555R DR's. Saves 12-14 lbs on each tire. Call Jon at BestWheelDeals (he's on the forum).

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Old 05-16-2011, 11:02 AM   #76
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Do you have a recent race weight?
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12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:15 AM   #77
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Do you have a recent race weight?
No, but I guessed 3950 pounds with me in it. That's based on 3913 stock weight -50lbs exhaust -50lbs wheels/tires -25lbs battery -25lbs misc +160lbs me. +1/4 tank of gas, +30lbs of tools in the car.

Mas o menos.

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Old 05-16-2011, 11:29 AM   #78
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I just notice this. I picked up Dynolicious from the App Store for my IPhone. Tried it out on this run:



Couple of things:
1. I used an input weight of 4000lbs.
2. Dayum that thing is accurate!
3. The shift points show me where I can hopefully tweak some more HP.
4. 4.6 0-60 (if I read it right) isn't shabby!
5. How do you like my name for the car? Hehe.

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Old 05-16-2011, 12:02 PM   #79
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Ummmm, I was gonna tell you mine ran 13.59 @110.1 on that app because its supposed to be super accurate....but I figured id get the bs flag. Btw, that was with just a tune a vararam. My 60 foot was a dismal 2.5 seconds and I let off right before the run was over. I honestly feel like I have one of those "freak" cars. Out if all the l99 cars I've test drove, the one I bought felt a hell of alot faster. Who knows?
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:04 PM   #80
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I'll run it again on some better concrete and I won't let out this time and I'll see what it does. I added a ported throttle body after that run.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:06 PM   #81
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What are you thinking of about the shift points? Not that I'm always a maven for mph, but I was thinking that you'd be seeing 112-113... Does the pcm lock up your converter in 3rd?
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12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:09 PM   #82
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Btw, I'm loving this thread. Padre, it looks like you gained almost the same from the Shorties and midpipes the same as full lengths, no?
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:17 PM   #83
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What are you thinking of about the shift points? Not that I'm always a maven for mph, but I was thinking that you'd be seeing 112-113... Does the pcm lock up your converter in 3rd?
I have not changed any TCC or lockup features. The only thing I have changed is to increase the shift pressure (by about 50%) and decrease the desired shift time (by about 0.25) on the 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shifts.

The 3200 torque converter adds something to the equation that I'm not enough of an expert at. It works fine now. In the past (in my WRX and my GTO), I have tried commanding lock-up in 3rd and did gain MPH, but on the above graph, it would look like another shift.

Just looking at that chart, I noticed the dip in HP on the shift, and as importantly, the length of the dip. So on one run, I tried subtracting more time on the desired shift time, but I didn't notice a change. You can only "desire" so much shift time, I suppose. Maybe I can add more pressure.

Last month, with the torque converter first installed, I had to add time on the 1-2 shift, because it "gulped" on the shift (commanded throttle position even dropped). So adding time cleared that up.

Basically, from my experience, I do suspect that commanding lock-up in 3rd would gain me less than 1 mph. But I haven't tried it formally on this setup yet.

Timing adjustments have helped me fine tune the car more than the initial transmission tune.

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Old 05-16-2011, 12:27 PM   #84
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I suspect the gulp you experienced may be the same thing I get when running the traction control on. If I launch with it on and then tap it off real quick it doesn't do it. My barks the tires pretty hard and I'm thinking that's the issue
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