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View Poll Results: Do you want to see a CTH "Tansformers Package" ZL1 ?
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:57 PM   #1
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Will there be a CTH "Transformers Package" ZL1 ?

Will there be a CTH / ZL1 ? Sorry I missed the R in the word transformers in the poll :-( . I can't fix in now :-( Maybe a moderator can fix it for us please ;-)

I'm going to quote someone from the ZL1 convertible thread and apply the concept here in this thread about the CTH ZL1..

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If you don't want a ZL1 convertible, all you need to do is not buy one.

Why not be supportive of those of us who do want a ZLI convertible and help us convince GM to make one?
So here goes my twist - " If you don't want a CTH ZL1, all you need to do is not buy one.

Why not be supportive of those of us who do want CTH ZL1 and help us convince GM to make one?"


Even though I know in my heart that the CTH ZL1 is already a done deal, just like you all knew in your hearts that there would be a SC 6.2 camaro in 2012. I think the CTH option will be offered in all trim levels once again in Nov/Dec of 2011 after the July 2011 TF3 movie release.


It couldn't have been said any better besherman about the convert, thank you for the good choice in words! I hope you don't mind me quoting you and using the concept for the CTH ZL1 movement !
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what is cth?
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CTH= Transformers Package

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what is cth?
CTH= Transformers Package, is an autobot thing
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thanks for clearing that up lol
I dont really think there should be a transformers package on the ZL1, but def keep it for the SS since that is what is being used in the movies.
But maybe if they decide to actually use that bumblebee gold on the ZL1, then I say a Transformers Package would be cool. imo
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ZL1 = monster in the eyes of the competiton.

adding the association of transformers with it would be stupid. the ss transformers edition is stupid enough.
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Sorry, I am all for people having the option for the car they want, auto you bet, convertible, sure not my money, but a transformers edition? Right or wrong I say NO!! That, IMO, will water down the validity of the car. You want a transformers like car, get VY and black stripes.
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adding the association of transformers with it would be stupid. the ss transformers edition is stupid enough.
Well if you look closely, what movie do you think this very same ZL1 will be appearing in July 2011.. It was already built for the movie long before it will become available to us. whether you like the idea or not I'm sure there will be one... Did you notice the similarities in the front end of the ZL1 and the camaro in the last Transformers movie ? Lets wait till and see in November of 2011.. And come back here.. I'll bet it will be done !

If you look at the thread listed below they are already stating "Transformers style front clip"

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Well if you look closely, what movie do you think this very same ZL1 will be appearing in July 2011.. It was already built for the movie long before it will become available to us. whether you like the idea or not I'm sure there will be one... Did you notice the similarities in the front end of the ZL1 and the camaro in the last Transformers movie ? Lets wait till and see in November of 2011.. And come back here.. I'll bet it will be done !
you might want to take a look at the ZL1 and bumble bee v3. BB v3 is the leno camaro, with ugly stripes and a ricey wing.

like i said it shouldnt happen the adding stickers that say "transformers" on a car and autobot/decepticon emblems, really takes away from the cars heritage.
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you might want to take a look at the ZL1 and bumble bee v3. BB v3 is the leno camaro, with ugly stripes and a ricey wing.

like i said it shouldnt happen the adding stickers that say "transformers" on a car and autobot/decepticon emblems, really takes away from the cars heritage.
I'm sure they would just do the door jams, the arm rest, the tiny little wheel caps, fender badges, and some ghost autobot emblem into the existing black ZL1 hood stripes, but not the words transformers down the hood like my car..

As I said above, If you look at the thread listed below they are already stating "Transformers style front clip"

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128387

I have all different Bumblebee cars and toys here and almost all of them have the ZL1 front clip, even the one I got from burger king dated 2009.. So don't be surprised if they make the package for an extra $1000..

They will build it if it will sell.. Some of you forget how tied into the movie these cars really are.. You don't have to like it, but it is true.. Personally I love it.. I like the red one on the chevy website too !!!
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I voted no because we have already had a Transformers Edition. I love mine and plan on keeping it a long time.
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I voted yes, but only if they improve from what they did with the last transformers package, less labels/badges and maybe offer the actual colour! automatic,vert, transformer options, whatever lol i don't care just more options is always welcome IMO
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Look at these toys.. They have the exact ZL1 front end. The car was made in BB's image not the other way around. So if you buy a ZL1 especially a yellow one you are already buying into the special "transformers" front end that all ZL1s are going to come with, and maybe the regular 2012s will come with the normal 2010/11 front end anyway who knows.

It doesn't take anything away from the ZL1 because the ZL1 has already been made from BB's image. Strangely enough 2 movies TF2/TF3 already have this car before we do. So if you buy a ZL1 be prepared for little 8 year old boys, mothers in vini vans, and teenage girls to talk about the transformers to you and ask about your bumblebee no matter what color you choose !

I guarantee there will be a CTH option whether you like the idea or not , and to the current CTH owners remember there are three movies there in no reason not to make sell another CTH car to commemorate BB in the 2nd/3rd movie because our CTHs look like the camaro in the 1st movie only, in the 2nd/3rd movies the camaro is the ZL1. In the movie TF3 you see the ZL1 with our current CTH fender badges. Now I agree if they could get the exact color that would be even better, but I'm happy with my yellow. Except for the fact that it is weak camaro paint that chips easily but that is on all of our camaros !!

My above post might seem kind of harsh ( I just read it and see how it could be taken that way) or like a hard core BB fan, but I'm really just talking OK, I'm not trying to start a big BB or not debate, or to put anyone in there place so, just look at the writing on the wall... or in this case in the 3 movies..

Remember I'm just chatting one camaro owner to another.. Peace ..
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The car was made in BB's image not the other way around.
Hate to burst your bubble....but this is probably not the case.
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Which came first the Chicken or the Egg ??

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Hate to burst your bubble....but this is probably not the case.
Nah, you are not bursting my Bubble.. We are just chatting here as fellow camaro owners do

Probably is the key word here.. Because you don't know, only the big shots in the movie business, Hasboro, and GM actually know..Well I've got a BB car from burger king dated 2009 and I got it from a friend a year ago, and guess what it has the ZL1 front end.. If you go to Target yourself and look at the transformers toys that have been out since before christmas you will see BB with the ZL1 front end..

It would seem to me that BB came first as the camaro concept, and as the ZL1 concept, and GM is using the TF movies to promote the camaros. So like I said I'm sure there will be a ZL1 with autobot badges on the fenders just like in the TF3 movie coming out in July 2011.

By the way, I went by the chevy dealer today.. The owner and manager want a ZL1 but they don't have any more info that we do right now.
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Nah, you are not bursting my Bubble.. We are just chatting here as fellow camaro owners do

Probably is the key word here.. Because you don't know, only the big shots in the movie business, Hasboro, and GM actually know..Well I've got a BB car from burger king dated 2009 and I got it from a friend a year ago, and guess what it has the ZL1 front end.. If you go to Target yourself and look at the transformers toys that have been out since before christmas you will see BB with the ZL1 front end..

It would seem to me that BB came first as the camaro concept, and as the ZL1 concept, and GM is using the TF movies to promote the camaros. So like I said I'm sure there will be a ZL1 with autobot badges on the fenders just like in the TF3 movie coming out in July 2011.

By the way, I went by the chevy dealer today.. The owner and manager want a ZL1 but they don't have any more info that we do right now.
No, they wouldn't. All they revealed at the Chicago show is all they're going to tell anyone until testing is done.

As far as BB/Camaro......all I can say is there's a secret studio down beneath GM HQ where they design all their new cars. Nobody but the most privileged in the company are allowed in there, and outsiders must sign non-disclosure agreements and are forbidden from taking in any sort of camera/phone, etc...

Some vehicles are conceptualized down there years ahead of time. That Stingray Corvette concept is actually...kinda old. The original version was around long enough ago to inspire both the Camaro and C6 Corvette if I recall correctly.

So...my point is...they had this Camaro designed well before now. And if Michael Bay decided he wanted a new face for Bumblebee...GM took the ZL1 and said "here, try this"...but I very much doubt they designed it for the movie and then decided it looked so good we'll make it production....
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Which came first the chicken or the egg ?

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As far as BB/Camaro......all I can say is there's a secret studio down beneath GM HQ where they design all their new cars. Nobody but the most privileged in the company are allowed in there, and outsiders must sign non-disclosure agreements and are forbidden from taking in any sort of camera/phone, etc...

Some vehicles are conceptualized down there years ahead of time. That Stingray Corvette concept is actually...kinda old. The original version was around long enough ago to inspire both the Camaro and C6 Corvette if I recall correctly.

So...my point is...they had this Camaro designed well before now. And if Michael Bay decided he wanted a new face for Bumblebee...GM took the ZL1 and said "here, try this"...but I very much doubt they designed it for the movie and then decided it looked so good we'll make it production....
Well, I have to at least partially agree with you how can't I, but there's no doubt about the TF series tie in with the camaro thus I believe you will see another TFE/CTH edition option for the 2012 camaro on all trim levels. Maybe it will be that ZL1 front end, some fender badges, wheel caps, arm rest, door jam plates, and two different hood decal designs one for the ZL and ghost writing on the hood stickers like my car for all the other camaros. They already have all of the parts except a ZL1 TFE hood decal, but they could just leave that out of the package for the ZL1.
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I voted Nah!!!!!, because I feel that if they do decide to keep having a transformer option, it should stay with with the V6/SS. That would be enough.

The ZL1 is being built for performance and Camaro enthusiasts. Not for the image of a movie series. I doubt adding the option would increase sales for the ZL1. The majority of Transformer fans would be more attracted to the price tag of a V6 or SS Bumble Bee than the $50k+ price tag of a ZL1 Bumble Bee.

Here are the pics of the T3 Bumble Bee:




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The only resemblance that I see of the ZL1 and the T3 Bumble Bee is the quad exhaust tips. The only resemblance of the ZL1 and the T2 BB is the fog lamp section, the rest of the T2 BB car looks like the SLP ZL models (hood, wheels).

As a Camaro enthusiast, I would rather not have the ZL1 be associated with a character from a movie. It makes more sense to have it associated with the history of it being one of the most powerful Camaros ever built... along the side of the original ZL1. Not the most powerful Bumble Bee ever built. Just my opinion.

Plus, I would think that if you were a Transformer buff.. you would want it to look exactly like the one in the movies. Not just the badging and what not.

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I vote an emphatic NO. Sorry, they already did one, time to move on. Trust me, I'm not a hater, just don't think the ZL1 fits the framework for the movie in timing or in reality.
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No, Camaro shouldn't be associated with such a crap movie. They should do a "King's Speech" special edition.
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...By the way, I went by the chevy dealer today.. The owner and manager want a ZL1 but they don't have any more info that we do right now.
Hmmmm...there goes that dealer's allocation for MY12 LOL.....
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