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fixxer56 · 02-05-2009, 07:59 AM

What are your opinions on cutting out the bowtie on the insulation material to expose the cars color? Is there a safety factor involved here if removed?

MisterCamaro69 · 02-05-2009, 08:09 AM

The inner panel under there has strengthening ridges, it may not look like you want it to.

Txturbo · 02-05-2009, 08:45 AM

But you could add a flat piece of sheet metal to those ribs and paint it the same color as the body or even use a piece of polished aluminum or stainless steel. Aluminum would probably be best since the hood is aluminum.

tjbusa · 02-05-2009, 09:26 AM

Or cut a decal to fill in the area.

Edrock · 02-05-2009, 09:32 AM

Like most things, there is a reason for that insulation over the engine compartment. Maybe not during the 1st year but if you cut out that bowtie and leave that part of the hood without insulation, you run the risk of the heat from the engine affecting the paint on the hood over time. JMVHO though. Something to think about.

Mr_Draco · 02-05-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Edrock

Like most things, there is a reason for that insulation over the engine compartment. Maybe not during the 1st year but if you cut out that bowtie and leave that part of the hood without insulation, you run the risk of the heat from the engine affecting the paint on the hood over time. JMVHO though. Something to think about.

Was just about to say this. I've seen cars where people removed some or all of the insulation under the hood because they didn't like it and it ended up ruining the hood. On a daily driver, the paint will last 2-3 years before it needs to be repainted. On a weekender you can get by for about 5 years though but not much longer.

MisterCamaro69 · 02-05-2009, 11:15 AM

Save the cut-out piece and put it behind the panel you paint, it would help with the heat issue somewhat.

ZYAL8R · 02-05-2009, 11:15 AM

Not to mention that if you are getting vinyl stripes, it may just melt those suckers down. Not good.

Skyman 08 · 02-05-2009, 11:49 AM

The insulation under the hood is more for SOUND than Heat. think about how hot it gets on the paint on a 90 degree summer day? it is going to be very very hot, I have had many cars without this insulation in the past ( my El Camino has none) and saw no bad effects to the paint from the heat.
but I wouldn't cut the emblem out I like it like it is..

Primus · 02-05-2009, 11:50 AM

Just use heat resistant paint.

fsuredneck · 02-05-2009, 11:57 AM

how did they do the one on the camaro cutaway. i dont know how to repost a pic, but for those who remember, there was the orange frame cutaway that had a bowtie on the hood shield. what method was used for that?

Edrock · 02-05-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Primus

Just use heat resistant paint.

We're talking about the paint on the top side of the hood where you wax and polish. The place where everybody looks first when checking out the car and admire the glossy paint. The heat from the engine overtime could ruin the finished paint job on the top of the hood.

fixxer56 · 02-05-2009, 12:07 PM

You know, that's why I ask questions, get many great ideas..that's where I got the idea from

PQ · 02-05-2009, 12:09 PM

Seems like alot of work for under the hood design.

Skyman 08 · 02-05-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fixxer56

You know, that's why I ask questions, get many great ideas..that's where I got the idea from

thats not a cutaway, they had an insert attached to the panel, look closely, the normal panel has a recessed Bow Tie, the one here sticks out some... you just need to get some material in a different color and glue it to the existing insulation with industrial adhesive that will not deteriorate with heat.

MisterCamaro69 · 02-05-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyman 08

thats not a cutaway, they had an insert attached to the panel, look closely, the normal panel has a recessed Bow Tie, the one here sticks out some... you just need to get some material in a different color and glue it to the existing insulation with industrial adhesive that will not deteriorate with heat.

THAT is a good idea!

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Originally Posted by irpq11

Seems like alot of work for under the hood design.

I say something similar everytime I go to a car show...BTW...momma's...you know

Txturbo · 02-05-2009, 12:24 PM

Car paint is used to paint engine blocks and it holds up pretty well. If I were to do it I would spray some Lizardskin ceramic insulation on the top side of the sheetmetal before I attached it to the hood, just in case.

Skyman 08 · 02-05-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo

Car paint is used to paint engine blocks and it holds up pretty well. If I were to do it I would spray some Lizardskin ceramic insulation on the top side of the sheetmetal before I attached it to the hood, just in case.

I had an idea, if he cuts it out just get a piece of the aluminum backed insulation I have seen put into cars and just slip it behind the cutout(aluminum side viewable), let the existing insulation clips hold it in place.

Never2LowChevy · 02-05-2009, 01:17 PM

It almost looks like you could cut out part of the hood behind the cowl and make it a functional cowl induction hood... without the insualtion pice of course. The insulation isnt there to protect the paint guys. Like it was said before, its mainly for sound and cosmetic reasons so that the underside of the hood dosnt have to be smoothed out. A piece of isulation is much cheaper then another piece of aluminium to make it looked finished.

Primus · 02-05-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edrock

We're talking about the paint on the top side of the hood where you wax and polish. The place where everybody looks first when checking out the car and admire the glossy paint. The heat from the engine overtime could ruin the finished paint job on the top of the hood.

I know what you're talking about. I'm just saying use heat resistant paint to paint the bowtie.

Edrock · 02-05-2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus

I know what you're talking about. I'm just saying use heat resistant paint to paint the bowtie.

Ohhh I see. You mean cut the bowtie insulation out, then go back and paint the UNDERSIDE of the hood where the insulation used to be with some sort of heat resistant paint. My Bad. Been busy at work and it just didn't click.

Still don't think I'd try it but that but would be better than nothing I guess.

Primus · 02-05-2009, 04:04 PM

Heh, close. No, I was saying just paint the insulation. The part that is beveled in for the bow tie.

Edrock · 02-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus

Heh, close. No, I was saying just paint the insulation. The part that is beveled in for the bow tie.

Got it.

Certainly sounds like the least amount of modification.

GOLDDOG · 02-05-2009, 04:40 PM

Here is a good step by step instruction on how to paint the headliner w/logo.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...tructions.html

herkman · 02-05-2009, 05:26 PM

I have taken the insulation out of every car I've ever owned with no effects to the paint. I even have an El Camino that I've owned for 18 years with it removed. I've noticed that after time if left in, the insulation collects dust and dirt. Everytime you close the hood, some of that dirt is shaken onto the engine (which I always keep detailed because I'm anal).

02-05-2009, 07:59 AM	#1
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02-05-2009, 08:45 AM	#3
Txturbo Keeper of the Faith Drives: 2001 Z28 Agressively Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rosenberg,Texas Posts: 1,382 View My Garage	But you could add a flat piece of sheet metal to those ribs and paint it the same color as the body or even use a piece of polished aluminum or stainless steel. Aluminum would probably be best since the hood is aluminum. __________________ ClassicChevy Order #10-2010 Camaro SS/RS....coming soon to a stop light near you! 2001 Camaro Z28 1969 Camaro SS clone

02-05-2009, 09:32 AM	#5
Edrock Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jamestown, NC Posts: 943 View My Garage	Like most things, there is a reason for that insulation over the engine compartment. Maybe not during the 1st year but if you cut out that bowtie and leave that part of the hood without insulation, you run the risk of the heat from the engine affecting the paint on the hood over time. JMVHO though. Something to think about. __________________ DT Shorties, X-pipe, resonator delete, Flowmaster Super-44s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hvs_...aynext_from=QL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkIh...eature=channel - Aggressive Rev!! WOT is my happy place!!

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02-05-2009, 11:49 AM	#9
Skyman 08 I don't need no V8 Drives: 07 HHR, 10 CAMARO 1LT! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,547	The insulation under the hood is more for SOUND than Heat. think about how hot it gets on the paint on a 90 degree summer day? it is going to be very very hot, I have had many cars without this insulation in the past ( my El Camino has none) and saw no bad effects to the paint from the heat. but I wouldn't cut the emblem out I like it like it is.. __________________ QUOTE=fbodfather: "Yes -- the 2010 (3.6 V6) engine is the same as the 2011 - we simply 'certified' the engine ......." http://www.vsra-usa.com/VSRA_Home_RQ4A.php

02-05-2009, 08:09 AM	#2
MisterCamaro69 Drives: Is all that we see or seem Join Date: May 2008 Location: But a dream within a dream? Posts: 7,634	The inner panel under there has strengthening ridges, it may not look like you want it to.

02-05-2009, 09:26 AM	#4
tjbusa shifts@redline Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 2,380	Or cut a decal to fill in the area.

02-05-2009, 11:50 AM	#10
Primus 2G1FF1EV0A9113319 Drives: 2010 1LT/RS 6MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,112 View My Garage	Just use heat resistant paint. __________________ 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Black 1100: 10/13/2008 2000: 4/02/2009 3000: 4/08/2009 3300: 5/14/2009 3400: 5/21/2009 3800: 5/28/2009 VIN: 2G1FF1EV0A9113319 4000: 5/28/2009 4150: 5/28/2009 4B00: 5/28/2009 Delivered: 6/10/2009

02-05-2009, 11:57 AM	#11
fsuredneck Drives: 2007 Ford Mustang Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 261 View My Garage	how did they do the one on the camaro cutaway. i dont know how to repost a pic, but for those who remember, there was the orange frame cutaway that had a bowtie on the hood shield. what method was used for that?

02-05-2009, 12:07 PM	#13
fixxer56 Thin Blue Line Drives: ABM 2LT/RS #10094 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: N=N* fp ne fl fi fc fL Posts: 1,281 View My Garage	You know, that's why I ask questions, get many great ideas..that's where I got the idea from Attached Images __________________ One of the "Few Blue"

02-05-2009, 12:09 PM	#14
PQ Boomer Sooner Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 17,949 View My Garage	Seems like alot of work for under the hood design. __________________ *tandtperformance* /// *BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet* /// *Indpowr*

02-05-2009, 12:24 PM	#17
Txturbo Keeper of the Faith Drives: 2001 Z28 Agressively Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rosenberg,Texas Posts: 1,382 View My Garage	Car paint is used to paint engine blocks and it holds up pretty well. If I were to do it I would spray some Lizardskin ceramic insulation on the top side of the sheetmetal before I attached it to the hood, just in case. __________________ ClassicChevy Order #10-2010 Camaro SS/RS....coming soon to a stop light near you! 2001 Camaro Z28 1969 Camaro SS clone

02-05-2009, 01:17 PM	#19
Never2LowChevy Banned Drives: bagged 4 door dually on 22s Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nederland Tx Posts: 371 View My Garage	It almost looks like you could cut out part of the hood behind the cowl and make it a functional cowl induction hood... without the insualtion pice of course. The insulation isnt there to protect the paint guys. Like it was said before, its mainly for sound and cosmetic reasons so that the underside of the hood dosnt have to be smoothed out. A piece of isulation is much cheaper then another piece of aluminium to make it looked finished.

02-05-2009, 04:04 PM	#22
Primus 2G1FF1EV0A9113319 Drives: 2010 1LT/RS 6MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,112 View My Garage	Heh, close. No, I was saying just paint the insulation. The part that is beveled in for the bow tie. __________________ 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Black 1100: 10/13/2008 2000: 4/02/2009 3000: 4/08/2009 3300: 5/14/2009 3400: 5/21/2009 3800: 5/28/2009 VIN: 2G1FF1EV0A9113319 4000: 5/28/2009 4150: 5/28/2009 4B00: 5/28/2009 Delivered: 6/10/2009

02-05-2009, 04:40 PM	#24
GOLDDOG Drives: 2010 2LT/RS & 08 JSB Corvette Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 285	Here is a good step by step instruction on how to paint the headliner w/logo. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...tructions.html

02-05-2009, 05:26 PM	#25
herkman Drives: 2010 IOM SS/RS, 69 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Douglasville, Georgia Posts: 530	I have taken the insulation out of every car I've ever owned with no effects to the paint. I even have an El Camino that I've owned for 18 years with it removed. I've noticed that after time if left in, the insulation collects dust and dirt. Everytime you close the hood, some of that dirt is shaken onto the engine (which I always keep detailed because I'm anal).

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