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Old 02-15-2011, 03:50 PM   #76
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I'm not sure why so many people are complaining about a Special Edition twice a yr. Everybody is constantly talking about wanting different colors, well wtf do you think an SE is? It will make up less than 2% of Camaro sales, and yes if you buy one it will be outdated, isnt that the point? So there are not 5 of them in the parking lot next to you. Every car company does this, I don't understand why this is like something out of the blue.

As for Mod upgrades arent they doing that already? GM is testing with Suspension manufactures to license their products, as well as performance upgrades.

How about being happy that you are fortunate to own a Camaro, instead of boo hoo'ing about everything wrong all the time. Just tired of hearing the same crap all the time.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:20 PM   #77
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At the risk of being unpopular here amongst Camaro faithful how about GM comes out with a new Zeta vehicle every six months to try to capture a new segment of the market instead of going after the already captive Camaro owners they have? GM seriously can't think tape and sticker packages every 6 months are going to boost sales considerably? (I'm not counting the ZL1 here or a future Z28 either). Why not go after a new market or with some new Zeta platform options.

Sedan, Ute, Wagon, 2+2 coupe (bigger than a Camaro, think usuable back seat) an AWD Zeta either 2 or 4 door.

I know this will probably seem unpopular, but Camaro doesn't deserve the tape and sticker treatment. COPO, Yenko, Fred Gibb and all those heritage special editions will just seem like GM grasping at straws. A good Z28 coming up and keep the Camaro fresh with new colors, wheel options, interior upgrades and maybe some new GMPP stuff is all that seems necessary. OK, I'm off my soapbox.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:53 PM   #78
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It would not be cost effective to come out with an actual new vehicle that often. Being as though they have to design, produce, revamp assembly lines, and inventory parts, warranty them for long periods of time. That is part of what GM's problem was in the past, making to many of the same vehicles, and spreading it to different brands.

The purpose of Special Editions is not necessary to gain sales, but to continue selling owners. If I own one for 3 years and nothing has changed why would I buy a new one? I managed a HUMMER dealer for years. HUMMER started the twice a yr Special Editions. The people that would buy your SE were current owners that happened to be in for service or whatever, and saw it sitting on the floor. A good sales person, and a good trade value, and its a done deal. It takes GM 2 yrs to put a new paint into production. Special Editions are usually sent out to an upfitter for the different features added. Believe me Wheels and paint sell vehicles, it seperates you from every other one the same on the road. Those type cars are bought on impulse very frequently. GM knows it has to keep its current owners in its cars down the road. That is why you don't get all the features in the first couple years. You have to have a reason to trade it in a few years later.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:37 PM   #79
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You started something fantastic with this Camaro; STAY THE COURSE. Learn from Apple's approach. Study the forums; listen to all the feedback from the people who bought the car and make the next one so good that they'll buy it again. There's a reason why Apple is debt-free, has $60 billion in the bank, and is the #1 tech company in the world. Follow their lead and make the next Camaro the evolutionary improvement of this first fantastic car.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:42 PM   #80
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I would've thought the 2 1969 Corvettes that made it out of the factory with ZL-1's would have been the fastest car ever produced [at the time]?
Can't wait to see that 45th Anniversary package.
Probably have badging etc etc extra striping, deluxe interior. Not really expecting it to be a "performance" MONSTER

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Old 02-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #81
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Here's another idea to increase sales....

Adjust the assembly lines to allow for:

Engine options

More colors/combinations

Rear Gear Ratios; Suspension/Brake options; Badging options

In General, options "pulled" by the consumer vs. factory "pushed" options

Various interior options (specific) like a choice of steering wheels or degree of options without having to buy the WHOLE Kahuna!Is it feasible to think that they might just find more market "saturation" by giving us the chance to order "what we want"...?? Just a thought.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:17 PM   #82
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TF3 edition....make it exactly like the one in the movie(except for the color) and I will buy one right away.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:25 AM   #83
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TYPE LT
That would be cool! My 76 Camaro is a Type LT.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:50 AM   #84
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I think some people are getting confused....

A Z28 or and IROC (even though they will never bring it back) would probably be a new model or trim level, like the ZL1.

By special edition, they mean the Syngery Green config from last year, or this year's XM edition or the new Synergy models they showed at SEMA. The Camaro Black would be a good fit as well. Ultimately, GM does not expect enthusiasts to want these "special editions", rather they are simply "buzz models" to give them something fresh to advertise to keep the Camaro at the forefront. Strategicly they have to do that, otherwise the Camaro will become stale with nothing new to pitch to potential customers.

I would expect this rumored "TF3" model will be nothing more than some unique decal stripes, a few badges, and maybe (but unlikely) the fascia similar to the Leno Concept. But I kinda doubt the last part... wishful thinking. Fbodfather has already made it clear that they do not have the ability to do the 3-stage paints at Oshawa. However, once the plant is upfitted to produce the new Cadillacs.... that may change. Till then.... just expect stickers and badges.

True enthusiasts will modify their own Camaro to their liking.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:28 PM   #85
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That would be cool! My 76 Camaro is a Type LT.
Nice looking Camaro there man!!
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:25 PM   #86
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Adjust the assembly lines to allow for:

Engine options

More colors/combinations

Rear Gear Ratios; Suspension/Brake options; Badging options

In General, options "pulled" by the consumer vs. factory "pushed" options

Various interior options (specific) like a choice of steering wheels or degree of options without having to buy the WHOLE Kahuna!Is it feasible to think that they might just find more market "saturation" by giving us the chance to order "what we want"...?? Just a thought.
Totally agree!! I think those were MTO cars. Made To Order.
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:56 PM   #87
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this idea i dont like
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:56 PM   #88
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but i wish the iroc would come back
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:06 AM   #89
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The Iroc Camaro what the car I wanted growing up. Its my favorite Camaro name. I wish they would bring it back regardless of the absence of the racing series.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:03 PM   #90
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Why do they continue to extend the synergy. Grrrrr
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:20 AM   #91
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Dark times await for GM if they don't fix the clunky feeling of the Camaro, and I'm an SS owner at that. All I know is 1 year+ at 36k and it still feels clunky to me. Sigh. If I could get Honda S2000 crispness handling wise with the power of the Camaro, I'd be in love.
Tell you what.... get a S2000, mod it to give it seating for 4, give it a 430+ HP motor, *and* a drivetrain that can handle 430+ HP for 100,000 miles, and then we can talk about how the Camaro got it "wrong" by feeling "clunky" in comparison to a tiny, underpowered S2000.

Oh yeah, 1 more thing... it has to sell for less than $35k.


Seriously though, -- cars with the Camaro's HP and the handling of the S2000 are available, but you need to bring at least $200,000 to the table to get the keys.
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