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Old 02-14-2011, 07:28 PM   #43
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Dark times await for GM if they don't fix the clunky feeling of the Camaro, and I'm an SS owner at that. All I know is 1 year+ at 36k and it still feels clunky to me. Sigh. If I could get Honda S2000 crispness handling wise with the power of the Camaro, I'd be in love.
Define "clunky"???
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:44 PM   #44
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...I hope they aren't just trying to keep the Camaro the hot "new" thing by releasing a Limited/Special edition every 6 months. The GM Heritage Grille, 20''+ Rims, don't make it Special nor Limited. They need to take a bit further....
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:48 PM   #45
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They should stop and think different like Apple does when evaluating their own products. Don't just change it for the sake of changing something; study what was good, what was okay, what wasn't so good, and improve it. Change it to make it better; fix the things that need fixing. Upgrade the FUNCTIONALITY; not just change the look.

It needs interior improvements. Some weight reduction. Strengthen the drivetrain. Better bushings (they can learn from Pedders how to do this without sacrificing ride quality).

Make the next version a better CAMARO; not just a cosmetic change. This has always been the downfall of Detroit automakers; they start with a great car, then slowly hokey/crap it up with "special editions" etc. until it's a sad mess of what used to be a great car. Just like software companies, they add "features" no one asked for, and ignore fixing the things that their existing customers have been complaining about. The software slowly gets bigger, clumsier, slower... until it's just disappointing at best.

DON'T DO IT CHEVY! You started something fantastic with this Camaro; STAY THE COURSE. Learn from Apple's approach. Study the forums; listen to all the feedback from the people who bought the car and make the next one so good that they'll buy it again. There's a reason why Apple is debt-free, has $60 billion in the bank, and is the #1 tech company in the world. Follow their lead and make the next Camaro the evolutionary improvement of this first fantastic car.
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:03 PM   #46
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Cool to hear but I'll be satisfied with the 2SS/RS!!!
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:15 PM   #47
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So a future special edition will be a Z-28. That's what they mean with "stay tuned".
I sure hope so, I wish that would have been first, but I can wait.

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:19 PM   #48
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You've got it all wrong. Ford produces new packages every 6 hours. Chevrolet will wait 6 months.


Out of this thread I'm interested with this:

"Also, the limited edition Camaro Synergy model will return this spring. The model is aimed at V-6 buyers who want performance equipment at a lower price."

Maybe I missed it being explained somewhere else on the forum but I'm curious to know what this will all entail being a future v6 shopper. Nonetheless, it will be interesting within the 1-2 years when I start looking at my options for my future dream car, that's for sure.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:27 PM   #49
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If they were referring to the XM edition, no performance equipment at all. Its just a stripe, 21" rims, floor mats, heritage grille, and some bits only available with 2LT and/or RS. Although the original PDF brochure did say something about an added CAI.
As far as lower price, well its gonna cost $30K.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:34 PM   #50
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With that in mind, in about three months there are a lot of college graduates who may want a new sports car.
Yup, just got my new sports car.. graduated in August
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:39 PM   #51
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Am i the only one who thought the IROC line looked ok? I know the power plant sucked...but it wasn't as bad as the Berlinetta...
I thought the IROC line looked great. Much better than the V6 and the Z28 in the late 80's. But I'm biased. (See avatar)
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:44 PM   #52
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They should stop and think different like Apple does when evaluating their own products. Don't just change it for the sake of changing something; study what was good, what was okay, what wasn't so good, and improve it. Change it to make it better; fix the things that need fixing. Upgrade the FUNCTIONALITY; not just change the look.

It needs interior improvements. Some weight reduction. Strengthen the drivetrain. Better bushings (they can learn from Pedders how to do this without sacrificing ride quality).

Make the next version a better CAMARO; not just a cosmetic change. This has always been the downfall of Detroit automakers; they start with a great car, then slowly hokey/crap it up with "special editions" etc. until it's a sad mess of what used to be a great car. Just like software companies, they add "features" no one asked for, and ignore fixing the things that their existing customers have been complaining about. The software slowly gets bigger, clumsier, slower... until it's just disappointing at best.

DON'T DO IT CHEVY! You started something fantastic with this Camaro; STAY THE COURSE. Learn from Apple's approach. Study the forums; listen to all the feedback from the people who bought the car and make the next one so good that they'll buy it again. There's a reason why Apple is debt-free, has $60 billion in the bank, and is the #1 tech company in the world. Follow their lead and make the next Camaro the evolutionary improvement of this first fantastic car.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:16 PM   #53
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The devil will be in the details. Do they pull off real special editions or just a few minor cosmetic changes and try to claim it is special. How about a special edition with a 427 in it. How about a full pedderized SS track special that weighs 3400 lbs. How about a line up of GMPP that are the real deal instead of just bling. Those things would keep GM in money for a while. A different color paint and a name change for 5K won't.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:37 PM   #54
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what other names are in the camaro heritage that are really usable, other than z28?
The most awesomnest camaro of them all, nothing to this day can even compare until the zl1 is produced! Oh yes I'm talking about the mighty berlinetta! Lmao!
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:25 AM   #55
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They should stop and think different like Apple does when evaluating their own products. Don't just change it for the sake of changing something; study what was good, what was okay, what wasn't so good, and improve it. Change it to make it better; fix the things that need fixing. Upgrade the FUNCTIONALITY; not just change the look.

It needs interior improvements. Some weight reduction. Strengthen the drivetrain. Better bushings (they can learn from Pedders how to do this without sacrificing ride quality).

Make the next version a better CAMARO; not just a cosmetic change. This has always been the downfall of Detroit automakers; they start with a great car, then slowly hokey/crap it up with "special editions" etc. until it's a sad mess of what used to be a great car. Just like software companies, they add "features" no one asked for, and ignore fixing the things that their existing customers have been complaining about. The software slowly gets bigger, clumsier, slower... until it's just disappointing at best.

DON'T DO IT CHEVY! You started something fantastic with this Camaro; STAY THE COURSE. Learn from Apple's approach. Study the forums; listen to all the feedback from the people who bought the car and make the next one so good that they'll buy it again. There's a reason why Apple is debt-free, has $60 billion in the bank, and is the #1 tech company in the world. Follow their lead and make the next Camaro the evolutionary improvement of this first fantastic car.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:25 AM   #56
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I say they can't bring back the Berlinetta unless it has the funky swivel stereo on the center console, lol

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