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Old 04-29-2006, 11:01 PM   #1
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Gm has fight left in her

I love this new car, not cause of how it looks or its engine, but because it proves that GM has something left to offer. With that said there are some things i want to see improved:

1) make it light, the current GTO is super powerful, but a total pig in the weight department. My old F-body actually weighs less.
2) Offer more engines. perhaps the 6.0 could be a z28. a low cost (RS) version could have the 5.3 out of the tahoe. and perhaps an ss model with a detuned version of the ls7. it would also be nice to see packages like the 1le come back and actually make a difference.
3) finally, cost is key. they need to be cheaper than their ford/dodge/toyota/nissan counterparts and offer better or equal performance.

This is the winning combination, i guess if GM wasnt in financial problems it would be easier to pull it off, or maybee GM will pull it through because of the financial trouble (having a noose around ure neck makes u work harder).
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:53 AM   #2
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I want 1.A V-6 RS version w/4.3 Vortec
2.A Z28 version w/LS2 405hp.
3A SS version w/LS7 505hp.
but all that weigh light. And I agree w/you have the were you can afford them.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:21 AM   #3
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I want 1.A V-6 RS version w/4.3 Vortec
2.A Z28 version w/LS2 405hp.
3A SS version w/LS7 505hp.
but all that weigh light. And I agree w/you have the were you can afford them.
If this is what you want, then odds are you are going to be disappointed. Did you not read the thread about the engine options? The SS and Z-28 are supposed to have the LS3 in them rated at around 450HP. The LS2 is going to be dead by then. If a LS7 or equivanant does get produced, I will bet my bottom dollar that it will be in very limited numbers and will not come with a badge of SS or Z28.

I think it is funny that there is so little information being released right now that a number of the threads at the top of the forums were actually originally started months ago. Reduce-Reuse-Recycle.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #4
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Hey man that is what I would like to see we all got our our opions with what we want on the new Camaro's so don't go stomping all over mine. I don't care what they bring out in them as long as they are fast. That is just what I like.
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:08 PM   #5
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I dont care if its an LS107 I want an SS at 33 to 35 thousand with 450 horse.
I also wish GM would give us some more info I get tired of the same old same old.
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:14 PM   #6
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I also wish GM would give us some more info I get tired of the same old same old.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:12 PM   #7
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I want 1.A V-6 RS version w/4.3 Vortec
2.A Z28 version w/LS2 405hp.
3A SS version w/LS7 505hp.
but all that weigh light. And I agree w/you have the were you can afford them.
They will be smart in terms of engine selection. The engines will change cause the numbers will change as they work the engines more.

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I love this new car, not cause of how it looks or its engine, but because it proves that GM has something left to offer. With that said there are some things i want to see improved:

1) make it light, the current GTO is super powerful, but a total pig in the weight department. My old F-body actually weighs less.
2) Offer more engines. perhaps the 6.0 could be a z28. a low cost (RS) version could have the 5.3 out of the tahoe. and perhaps an ss model with a detuned version of the ls7. it would also be nice to see packages like the 1le come back and actually make a difference.
3) finally, cost is key. they need to be cheaper than their ford/dodge/toyota/nissan counterparts and offer better or equal performance.

This is the winning combination, i guess if GM wasnt in financial problems it would be easier to pull it off, or maybee GM will pull it through because of the financial trouble (having a noose around ure neck makes u work harder).
1) even if its heavy if they have good power it can be overcame--> see charger SRT 8
2) offer FEWER engines. Make smart choices in terms of engines cause more options is harder to manage in terms of business.
3) cant have everything. I hope they make a good car if it cost more than make it worth it

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I dont care if its an LS107 I want an SS at 33 to 35 thousand with 450 horse.
I also wish GM would give us some more info I get tired of the same old same old.
i think they arent giving more information cause a lot of things are still up in the air
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:13 AM   #8
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Just give it a little time. I bet we hear something in the near future. I agree that it sux nothing is coming out, but like Cleric said, a lot is still up in the air. I couldn't imagine how many things have been decided on that have chaged...then changed again...then again.... We are still in 06 here and aren't looking for a release until 1st quarter of 09 (so GM claims at this time). Lots and lots of things will change. GM, I'm postive, isn't going to come out and say, "Hey, we are putting in the LS2". I bet they have so much they are working on that they are expecting break throughs in engines we've never even heard of. Maybe, just maybe, not hearing anything is a good thing right about now. Again, there's a lot of time between now and then. A whole hell of a lot can happen in that time frame.
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I bet they have so much they are working on that they are expecting break throughs in engines we've never even heard of. Maybe, just maybe, not hearing anything is a good thing right about now. Again, there's a lot of time between now and then. A whole hell of a lot can happen in that time frame.
Like a 40MPG 450HP motor?


That's be flippin' sweet.

Back on topic... Yes it is still 06 and yes they have announced an '09 MY (late '08 arrival). I would then have to specultate that they would have to have everything finalized and ready for production by mid '08 at the latest. This would mean that by the beginning of '07 they would have a year and a half to get all of their ducks in a row. My guess is that at the beginning of the year we will start getting information on a more consistent basis.... either from GM or leaked from suppliers.
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Like a 40MPG 450HP motor?


That's be flippin' sweet.

...by the beginning of '07 they would have a year and a half to get all of their ducks in a row. My guess is that at the beginning of the year we will start getting information on a more consistent basis.... either from GM or leaked from suppliers.
You see?!?! That's the kinda attitude I like! There's nothing wrong w/ wishing and hoping. In fact, it was mentioned about that diesel that gets 350 hp and 40 mpg's. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! BRING IT ON GM!
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You see?!?! That's the kinda attitude I like! There's nothing wrong w/ wishing and hoping. In fact, it was mentioned about that diesel that gets 350 hp and 40 mpg's. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! BRING IT ON GM!
I think their is a lot to come and will def be in advantage when measuring against a stang, etc. But i would be cautious about how high you get your hopes. Cause if you expect to much the car wont come to surface the way you want.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:30 PM   #12
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I think their is a lot to come and will def be in advantage when measuring against a stang, etc. But i would be cautious about how high you get your hopes. Cause if you expect to much the car wont come to surface the way you want.
You must be a glass half empty kind of guy..
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Old 11-10-2006, 03:04 PM   #13
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I dont care if its an LS107 I want an SS at 33 to 35 thousand with 450 horse.
I also wish GM would give us some more info I get tired of the same old same old.
thats what ive been saying all last week, but..... every time i posted it it got blocked and moved to another sight so no one could read it!!!!
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Old 11-10-2006, 03:07 PM   #14
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i agree with casull about not getting your hopes up. you start to dream about this bad ass car and then when the time comes and you see it at the dealership you gonna be like...."well i wish they did this or i expected this." this really sucks waiting and tlaking about a car you actually know nothing about. thats why i cant wait any more. i think im going to buy a c6 this winter!
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Old 11-10-2006, 03:10 PM   #15
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You must be a glass half empty kind of guy..
ehh sometimes. I just dont want to get my hopes really high than have them crushed cause i expected to much. I think its funny for people to want the car to better in every way than other cars but to be less expensive. That just doesnt happen.

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thats what ive been saying all last week, but..... every time i posted it it got blocked and moved to another sight so no one could read it!!!!
the one or two i thought came across as it being our fault for not having more information. If this is wrong sorry but thats kinda of the way i took it. Right now we are in a funk i think, We are getting over the announcement rush and are just waiting for more information. but GM doesnt have any. I think it would have been wiser to allude that production could come soon this year and make the annoucnment 2Q of 07. I think this wait is going to kill the car.
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the one or two i thought came across as it being our fault for not having more information. If this is wrong sorry but thats kinda of the way i took it. Right now we are in a funk i think, We are getting over the announcement rush and are just waiting for more information. but GM doesnt have any. I think it would have been wiser to allude that production could come soon this year and make the annoucnment 2Q of 07. I think this wait is going to kill the car.
Yeah, they came across the same way to me BlacLac... sorry if that was not the intention, you just can't tell sometimes when you are reading the words instead of listening to them. Sorry bro.

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I think this wait is going to kill the car.
I think the same thing actually, and have said it several times on verious threads. However, now that I think about it, I don't know that it will. I think we all see this car in a totally different light. I believe I am correct in assuming that 90% of the to-be Camaro owners don't think about this car an iota as much as we do. They are not behind their computers each day checking out forums and trying to get every ouce of information they can about it like we do. Therefore, when it does get revealed for production it will be like new all over again for them. I just think we have a different perspective than most.
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Yeah, they came across the same way to me BlacLac... sorry if that was not the intention, you just can't tell sometimes when you are reading the words instead of listening to them. Sorry bro.



I think the same thing actually, and have said it several times on verious threads. However, now that I think about it, I don't know that it will. I think we all see this car in a totally different light. I believe I am correct in assuming that 90% of the to-be Camaro owners don't think about this car an iota as much as we do. They are not behind their computers each day checking out forums and trying to get every ouce of information they can about it like we do. Therefore, when it does get revealed for production it will be like new all over again for them. I just think we have a different perspective than most.
to clarify also blac im not saying thats the way you meant

i never really stopped to think about it that way. I still cant get over 2.5 year LT in production. I understand the complexities and all but I want to get a new car in the next year or so and not sure if i could way 3 years.

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