SS Envy or what ?

[CRChevy]

I don't understand why people keep talking about Z28 at all. I am new to forums but can't understand why people say " ill skip the zl1 and wait for the z28" , does anyone really think they will release a car factory with over 550HP ? People think there is goinna be like 10 different engine choices this is NUTS why can't people accept the fact that the TOP CAMARO for the foreseeable future is the ZL1. I can't imagine anything faster coming to showrooms maybe hennessey or someone but this is crazy everyone should be happy about the ZL1 screw the name it's the beast everyone has been waiting for.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by CRChevy

I don't understand why people keep talking about Z28 at all. I am new to forums but can't understand why people say " ill skip the zl1 and wait for the z28" , does anyone really think they will release a car factory with over 550HP ? People think there is goinna be like 10 different engine choices this is NUTS why can't people accept the fact that the TOP CAMARO for the foreseeable future is the ZL1. I can't imagine anything faster coming to showrooms maybe hennessey or someone but this is crazy everyone should be happy about the ZL1 screw the name it's the beast everyone has been waiting for.

I have not read one post on here where someone thinks the Z28 will have more power than the ZL1. Z28 is gonna be a normally aspirated V8 targeting the Boss 302 in the the hp range of 460 to 480 thereabouts. Oh, and the I predict the ZL1 final hp rating for 2012 is gonna be north of 550hp.

[Revo1]

I agree with the OP. Waiting for "the Z28" is a fool's gambit.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

I have not read one post on here where someone thinks the Z28 will have more power than the ZL1. Z28 is gonna be a normally aspirated V8 targeting the Boss 302 in the the hp range of 460 to 480 thereabouts. Oh, and the I predict the ZL1 final hp rating for 2012 is gonna be north of 550hp.

Source?

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Source?

i think some 1 is wants a cock fight

[SQUALO]

Originally Posted by CRChevy

I don't understand why people keep talking about Z28 at all. I am new to forums but can't understand why people say " ill skip the zl1 and wait for the z28" , does anyone really think they will release a car factory with over 550HP ? People think there is goinna be like 10 different engine choices this is NUTS why can't people accept the fact that the TOP CAMARO for the foreseeable future is the ZL1. I can't imagine anything faster coming to showrooms maybe hennessey or someone but this is crazy everyone should be happy about the ZL1 screw the name it's the beast everyone has been waiting for.

No one is really saying the Z28 is going to be the top HP car, the ZL1 has already been given that crown, for now.

We're just saying to first off, bring back the nameplate, and then put it between the SS & ZL1, and go after the Boss 302 market.
Having numerous engines is not out of the ordinary. The new Corvettes, the customers are being offered an option that allows them to pick their engines...by the way that's a $6,000 option.

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

I have not read one post on here where someone thinks the Z28 will have more power than the ZL1. Z28 is gonna be a normally aspirated V8 targeting the Boss 302 in the the hp range of 460 to 480 thereabouts. Oh, and the I predict the ZL1 final hp rating for 2012 is gonna be north of 550hp.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Source?

No source, it's a gut feeling I'm getting from all the postings I'm seeing up here.

Originally Posted by Z/28orSs

i think some 1 is wants a cock fight

I don't even know what that means. All I'm saying is the pecking order will be:

ZL1
Z28
SS
LS and LT

Of course I could be wrong, but only if GM take a serious financial turn downwards. They keep healthy, it will happen.

[Gramps69Z]

Originally Posted by Revo1

I agree with the OP. Waiting for "the Z28" is a fool's gambit.

I guess I'm one of those fools, but GM would be the bigger fool if the Z did not come back.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

I guess I'm one of those fools, but GM would be the bigger fool if the Z did not come back.

It's coming. There is NO reason to think it will not. Oh, and just for the record as much as I love the fact the ZL1 is coming out and Z28 will be out later, I am in complete love with my Black SS. It is going nowhere. I just love that Chevy is bringing out these bad boy cars.

[CRChevy]

Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

I guess I'm one of those fools, but GM would be the bigger fool if the Z did not come back.

And I bet if they named the ZL1 the Z28 you would be ready to order??? LOL ITS JUST LETTERS .

The Boss 302 crowd ? I don't thats a HUGE crowd , I don't think Chevy will have LS LT SS ZL1 and Z28 regardless of order , they also have the convertibles so that's a ton of cars already I think they have a car for each niche right now...

Jeesh.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by CRChevy

And I bet if they named the ZL1 the Z28 you would be ready to order??? LOL ITS JUST LETTERS .

Well, I hope no one decided against the ZL1 just because of the letters. Yeah, that would be silly. However, I do know there is a strong contingent that want their Z28 to be lighter and a normally aspirated V8. These people would not have bought the ZL1 if it were called the Z28. I know one thing, all this talk of these great Camaro's coming out is exciting.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

It's coming. There is NO reason to think it will not. Oh, and just for the record as much as I love the fact the ZL1 is coming out and Z28 will be out later, I am in complete love with my Black SS. It is going nowhere. I just love that Chevy is bringing out these bad boy cars.

[Bond]

Same old same old....
The history of the Z28 alone, holds a special place for a lot of enthusiasts. When the 2010s came out, I wanted a Z28 over an SS for nostalgic reasons and nothing else. At the time, I didn't care how much the Z28 would have had for power compared to the SS. When the car was introduced however, and we learned that the wouldn't be a Z28 for 2010, I grabbed an SS, knowing that the 2010 is and would be a special car to own in years to come.

Some need to own the biggest, meanest, fastest beast on the streets. Others long to get back a piece of history. Some are lucky enough to get both.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by Bond

Same old same old....
The history of the Z28 alone, holds a special place for a lot of enthusiasts.
Some need to own the biggest, meanest, fastest beast on the streets. Others long to get back a piece of history. Some are lucky enough to get both.

people keep talking about the ZL1`s history, lol. lets talk the Z/28 `s much better history

[usa1camaro1969]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

people keep talking about the ZL1`s history, lol. lets talk the Z/28 `s much better history

Longer doesn't mean better. I understand why they badged it an SS. They were badging everything SS. If you want to go back in history the Z/28 was a car meant to be able to turn and with the stock 302 it was a high rpm car that did well as long as the RPM's stayed up. The SS could be had with the 350 or a few different 396's. Top dog before the COPO or specialty dealer(Yenko, Nickey, Bill Thomas, Baldwin Motion) cars was the 396/375hp car. It was an SS. Not the Z/28.
The SS went away for decades and came back with the 4th gens. It wasn't a step down from Z/28 to SS. It was a step up in power and suspension. How is Chevy going to justify the Z/28 being the badder beast compared to the SS they've already put out? Don't care. Does the ZL1 look to be a bad beast? Hell yes, but I'm putting money away for a Nickey car.

And I don't know many here who wish their cars weren't lighter. It was one of the benefits of the original ZL1's(weight of a mouse motor, power of the big rat).

[StangKiller-SS]

Some may just prefer the Z28 nameplate. The ZL1 nameplate over the years has been turned into somewhat asshole collectors edition no heritage just high dollar for what it is nameplate. SLP surely isn't doing it any justice this year with a $110k-$120k overall price tag. I can understand why GM chose the ZL1 name to go with the ZR1 Corvette but somewhere there has to be the normally aspirated higher performance edition that fits between the SS & ZL1 and preferably built to be a little less expensive than the ZL1 too. The SS nameplate was a much smarter choice for standard V8 version this time considering competition and where the "Z" stands in the Corvette line up, along with following the roots of the first gen as mentioned in other posts. I myself would really like to see a N/A faster version of the SS pop up that preferably has the interior trim level of a 1SS.

[Revo1]

I just don't see a Z28 happening for gen 5. Maybe I'll eat my words in a few years, but 2015 marks the movement to Alpha, and the end of gen 5. ZL1 isn't coming until 2012, leaving 3 model years left for a gen 5 Z28.

ZL1 is the high-performance model for gen 5, IMO. Squeezing another model to the Camaro line before 2015 would only cannibalize SS (and some ZL1) sales and would have to be a helluvarush...

Lemme pose a question to the hopefuls: If the ZL1 were in fact dubbed "Z28", would you still be waiting for a stripped-down performance Camaro?

[thePill]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Lemme pose a question to the hopefuls: If the ZL1 were in fact dubbed "Z28", would you still be waiting for a stripped-down performance Camaro?

Good question...

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by thePill

Good question...

Maybe, but I cannot believe some people are gonna pass on this car because it is called a ZL1. BADASS is BADASS. Besides, it's not like they called it the HP Edition. Now that would have been I mean, people in the know, know what a ZL1 is and what it meant.

[dirishboy]

I see there being a Z28 available in spring 2013

Convertible Spring 2011
ZL1 Spring 2012
Z28 Spring 2013

Stick more special editions like the Synergy Series and XM etc in between and you keep the media buzzing and the public interested

I expect pricing will be between the SS and ZL1 that way well equiped models will be nicely spaced

V6 - Mid $20ks
SS - Mid $30ks
Z28 - Mid 40ks
ZL1 - Mid 50ks

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Source?

FROM a flying sausage [WFO] , and yeah they are here !

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Maybe, but I cannot believe some people are gonna pass on this car because it is called a ZL1. BADASS is BADASS. Besides, it's not like they called it the HP Edition. Now that would have been I mean, people in the know, know what a ZL1 is and what it meant.

Eeeexactly

[2010victoryredss_ron]

just wait and see. they will probably bring out the Z28 when they redesign to the smaller platform. giving them the oppurtunity to shed weight and compete with the boss 302.. i dont know if thats 2015??? or sooner, but by then they might be too late....just chiming in

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by 2010victoryredss_ron

just wait and see. they will probably bring out the Z28 when they redesign to the smaller platform. giving them the oppurtunity to shed wait and compete with the boss 302.. i dont know if thats 2015??? or sooner, but by then they might be too late....just chiming in

You may very well be right. At some point though, there will be a Z28. Although with the Boss 302 back that would be quite awhile to wait for the Z. I tend to think it will be sooner than later.

[2010victoryredss_ron]

yes but like GM they may be, stalling....if they were going to bring it out, wouldnt they have wanted to bring it out the same time as the boss??? bring out the ZL1 to compete iwith the GT500, seems to be a smaller market than what the boss 302 market would be. to bring the weight down now they would have to have extensive carbon fibre bits, and that would drive the cost too high. so my thinking is they are waiting to trim weight via remodelling. but who knows....just my thinking, and who am i??? just a thrilled SS owner...