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Old 02-20-2011, 11:34 AM   #26
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You may very well be right. At some point though, there will be a Z28. Although with the Boss 302 back that would be quite awhile to wait for the Z. I tend to think it will be sooner than later.
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yes but like GM they may be, stalling....if they were going to gring it out, wouldnt they have wanted to bring it out the same time as the boss??? bring out the ZL1 to compete iwith the GT500, seems to be a smaller market than what the boss 302 market would be. to bring the weight down now they would have to have extensive carbon fibre bits, and that would drive the cost too high. so my thinking is they are waiting to trim weight via remodelling. but who knows....just my thinking, and who am i??? just a thrilled SS owner...
I agree with both of you, and even though GM is the leader of being behind the leaders (sorry but history confirms the fact), I think it will arrive in time to go head to head with the Boss 302, which is in it's final testing stages.

I believe now that the ZL1 announcement is done, and that vehicle to go on sale real soon, the Z28 will follow close behind, for those who want something a little different.
I think the release of the Transformers 3 movie this July 1st, "may" play a role, but that's just speculation, because the ZL1 will have exhausted it's hype by then.

I, like the rest of you, am just providing my thoughts, be it right or wrong, it's a lot of fun hoping.

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I'm waiting on the Alpha platform no matter what they release, but I expect we'll definitely see a Z28 on the Alpha whether we see one or not before then.

By the time Alpha comes out, I'll probably want a CTS anyway, LOL.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:38 PM   #28
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By the time Alpha comes out, I'll probably want a CTS anyway, LOL.
I thought that too. When my mother passed away, I was given her Eldorado. I really liked it. I thought, I should get a new one and trade my 97Z28(30th anniversary package) in on it. Biggest mistake of my life. Although the Eldorado was loaded and had lots of power, man it was just not me. I missed my Camaro so bad. Bad thing was there were no new Camaros to trade in for until the 5th gen. I went through 2 GTO's 04 and 06 and an 09 Solstice to try and get that feeling back. Never happened until the 5th gen came out. I'm never doing that again. I have the car I have always wanted finally. Now this may not be you at all, but just something to think about.
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I agree with both of you, and even though GM is the leader of being behind the leaders (sorry but history confirms the fact), I think it will arrive in time to go head to head with the Boss 302, which is in it's final testing stages.

I believe now that the ZL1 announcement is done, and that vehicle to go on sale real soon, the Z28 will follow close behind, for those who want something a little different.
I think the release of the Transformers 3 movie this July 1st, "may" play a role, but that's just speculation, because the ZL1 will have exhausted it's hype by then.

I, like the rest of you, am just providing my thoughts, be it right or wrong, it's a lot of fun hoping.

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The ZL1 was available a long time ago. I purchased my SS in May 2010 and there were materials at the dealership to have work done to your vehicle to have it a ZL1 vehicle. Nothing has changed just more hype. I guess GM partnering with SLP on the ZL1 while they take another decade to come back with the Z28.

The ZL1 is not a GM product it's an SLP offering to mod your Camaro.

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The ZL1 was available a long time ago. I purchased my SS in May 2010 and there were materials at the dealership to have work done to your vehicle to have it a ZL1 vehicle. Nothing has changed just more hype. I guess GM partnering with SLP on the ZL1 while they take another decade to come back with the Z28.

The ZL1 is not a GM product it's an SLP offering to mod your Camaro.

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Different car. SLP has nothing to do with it.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:16 PM   #31
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The ZL1 was available a long time ago. I purchased my SS in May 2010 and there were materials at the dealership to have work done to your vehicle to have it a ZL1 vehicle. Nothing has changed just more hype. I guess GM partnering with SLP on the ZL1 while they take another decade to come back with the Z28.

The ZL1 is not a GM product it's an SLP offering to mod your Camaro.

http://www.slponline.com/
WOW, you missed this by a mile. The new ZL1 has nothing to do with SLP.
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I think the Z28 will end up being an appearence package for the 2SS current trim. Maybe GM GFX will be standard and different wheels, stuff like that.
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The ZL1 was available a long time ago. I purchased my SS in May 2010 and there were materials at the dealership to have work done to your vehicle to have it a ZL1 vehicle. Nothing has changed just more hype. I guess GM partnering with SLP on the ZL1 while they take another decade to come back with the Z28.

The ZL1 is not a GM product it's an SLP offering to mod your Camaro.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:15 PM   #35
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The ZL1 was available a long time ago. I purchased my SS in May 2010 and there were materials at the dealership to have work done to your vehicle to have it a ZL1 vehicle. Nothing has changed just more hype. I guess GM partnering with SLP on the ZL1 while they take another decade to come back with the Z28.

The ZL1 is not a GM product it's an SLP offering to mod your Camaro.

http://www.slponline.com/
I don't think it has to do with SLP directly, but I know what you're saying.


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Folks,
I'm not going to put words in someones mouth, I think (and I may be wrong) but, maybe "calbert1999" is indicating that there are some similarities to what the SLP group does to Camaros both now and in the past.
Afterall they are a Performance parts company.
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Folks,
I'm not going to put words in someones mouth, I think (and I may be wrong) but, maybe "calbert1999" is indicating that there are some similarities to what the SLP group does to Camaros both now and in the past.
Afterall they are a Performance parts company.
I considered that, read his post again, and decided 'nope... He's misinformed.'
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I think the Z28 will end up being an appearence package for the 2SS current trim. Maybe GM GFX will be standard and different wheels, stuff like that.
The Z28 package has always been a performance package. The RS is the apperrance package. No way they make that mistake. That would go down as one of the worst decisions GM ever made.
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The Z28 package has always been a performance package. The RS is the apperrance package. No way they make that mistake. That would go down as one of the worst decisions GM ever made.
.....suspension, bigger sway bars, factory tuned performance exhaust, tuned, upped hp, etc. That would be very appealing
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.....suspension, bigger sway bars, factory tuned performance exhaust, tuned, upped hp, etc. That would be very appealing
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Z-28 will probably be something to compete with the new Boss 302 from Ford, probably a perked up LS3, and upgraded suspension, and bigger rubber. Maybe a few decals and stripes.
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I don't understand why people keep talking about Z28 at all. I am new to forums but can't understand why people say " ill skip the zl1 and wait for the z28" , does anyone really think they will release a car factory with over 550HP ? People think there is goinna be like 10 different engine choices this is NUTS why can't people accept the fact that the TOP CAMARO for the foreseeable future is the ZL1. I can't imagine anything faster coming to showrooms maybe hennessey or someone but this is crazy everyone should be happy about the ZL1 screw the name it's the beast everyone has been waiting for.
If your just talking Camaro then maybe no. But they do with the vette...already
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The Z28 should compete with the 302. That's the traditional history.

If the Z28 comes out as a 5th gen, here's what we need:

1. Tuned LS3, or LS7, 480-500hp. CAI.

2. Coilovers, upgraded sways, strut tower brace.

3. More aggressive exhaust. Headers would be nice also.

4. Delete options such as rear seat etc. Need to lose at 300lbs.

5. No tech gadgets like parking assist, HUD, bluetooth, OR ONSTAR!!

6. No leather!

7. Forged 19" wheels.

Just a stripped down, lean, mean, track machine.
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Same old same old....
The history of the Z28 alone, holds a special place for a lot of enthusiasts. When the 2010s came out, I wanted a Z28 over an SS for nostalgic reasons and nothing else. At the time, I didn't care how much the Z28 would have had for power compared to the SS. When the car was introduced however, and we learned that the wouldn't be a Z28 for 2010, I grabbed an SS, knowing that the 2010 is and would be a special car to own in years to come.

Some need to own the biggest, meanest, fastest beast on the streets. Others long to get back a piece of history. Some are lucky enough to get both.
Man i love to hear about all the hot Camaros that are here and the ones that are coming, but me I am happy with my silver V6 Camaro too.
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just wait and see. they will probably bring out the Z28 when they redesign to the smaller platform. giving them the oppurtunity to shed weight and compete with the boss 302.. i dont know if thats 2015??? or sooner, but by then they might be too late....just chiming in
I agree there will be new Z28 and it will be on the ALpha,but sooner then 15 more like late 2013
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I agree there will be new Z28 and it will be on the ALpha,but sooner then 15 more like late 2013
Alpha is not until 2015.
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The Z28 should compete with the 302. That's the traditional history.

If the Z28 comes out as a 5th gen, here's what we need:

1. Tuned LS3, or LS7, 480-500hp. CAI.

2. Coilovers, upgraded sways, strut tower brace.

3. More aggressive exhaust. Headers would be nice also.

4. Delete options such as rear seat etc. Need to lose at 300lbs.

5. No tech gadgets like parking assist, HUD, bluetooth, OR ONSTAR!!

6. No leather!

7. Forged 19" wheels.

Just a stripped down, lean, mean, track machine.
There we go, z28 was a stripped down trans am racing car. So much so that you could order the headers and dual quad cross ram intake and carb which came packaged in the trunk for dealer installation, etc. I'd love to see the Z28 come with the ZL1 suspension but a destroked ls3 manual 6 speed powertrain and cloth interior without all the gadgets. They are only a crank swap away on the LS3 from an 8000 rpm beast It needs to compete once again with the Boss 302 on the original playingfield, the roadcourses. I would hope it would be priced close to the SS's as this is where it was when it was introduced. I think Ford had overpriced the Boss 302 slightly and their sales will be less than they hoped. So here is one to consider, the Z28's of 67 to 69 (which is what GM is flashing back to) never came with the automatic option...what if they don't give that option??? So many on here are begging for the ZL1 to have it as an option when in fact no ZL1 ever came like that in 69 either. And the Z28 was a road race car, so I am hopeful they stick with the stick only and don't sissy it up any.
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So many on here are begging for the ZL1 to have it as an option when in fact no ZL1 ever came like that in 69 either. And the Z28 was a road race car, so I am hopeful they stick with the stick only and don't sissy it up any.
Just to correct your misconception, 1969 COPO 9560 AA: ZL1 manual transmission- 47 produced, COPO 9560 BA: ZL1 Automatic transmission- 22 produced for a total of 69 1969 ZL1 Camaros.
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