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Old 02-20-2011, 02:31 AM   #1
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Question Eibach sways any good?

Considering a set pretty soon. Mostly for street use- with the exception of the Fest in April

Also considering a strut tower brace and a set of 1" drop springs, but probably gonna hold out for BMR on those. Anyone have experience with these Eibach anti-rolls?
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I love mine. Have them on full hard. Also have the Eibach springs and a BMR strut tower brace. To me they made the handling better without firming up the ride too much. I feel they are very good value.
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:21 AM   #3
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Good value. Good change in the handling and feel. Springs offer a great stance. Great price. Are they the best..... no but how much would you notice a difference in what you need them for vs a more expensive better brand? Probably not much at all. I love mine
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Sounds good, thanks for the input guys! I'm trying to finesse in as many mods as I can before the Fest, so I may go Eibach for the springs as well- based on your feedback they sound great for my applications!
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Eibach

I have the Eibach setup as well. I installed my Anit Roll kit front and rear sways back in December. I originally just installed the eibach lowering springs but purchased the sway bars two weeks later I enjoy it.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:23 PM   #6
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Right on!

I see you drive a 2LT, and these are actually listed as compatible with LT/SS... Factoring in the extra weight, you guys think they'll make a worthwhile difference on the SS?
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:27 PM   #7
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Sways make a huge difference on these cars, highly recommend. I have the eibach setup also
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Right on!

I see you drive a 2LT, and these are actually listed as compatible with LT/SS... Factoring in the extra weight, you guys think they'll make a worthwhile difference on the SS?
They should be compatible. I ordered my eibach setup thru tirerack.com It was super fast shipping.
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Ben, I have BMR sways and Eibach springs. My suggestion is either work with BMR direct or one of the forum vendors (ahem... ApexChase) and try to get a package deal with springs/ sways. You can't go wrong either way... The ride is not hurt and the preformace is drastically better after the spring/sway mod!
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Ben, I have BMR sways and Eibach springs. My suggestion is either work with BMR direct or one of the forum vendors (ahem... ApexChase) and try to get a package deal with springs/ sways. You can't go wrong either way... The ride is not hurt and the preformace is drastically better after the spring/sway mod!
Thanks Jason! Will try and reach Apex pretty soon- I really can't spend too much more than $5-600 on this unfortunately, so I'm gonna get what I can... If it came down to one or the other, would you suggest springs or sways first?
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i got the same set up with sways and sprins installed with tax for the low end of your range. you will enjoy them ...
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Thanks Jason! Will try and reach Apex pretty soon- I really can't spend too much more than $5-600 on this unfortunately, so I'm gonna get what I can... If it came down to one or the other, would you suggest springs or sways first?
I am betting you are VERY close to the ball park with $5-6 hundred. I paid $200 shipped for my springs and only $170 TOTAL for the sways BUT that was the C5Fest BOGO deal that you WON'T find again. I am pretty sure you could get all the hardware for what your looking to spend.

Now the install is another thing. I have installed at least 10 sets of each and I can say its VERY easy but takes a while first time. I spent better part of a day on my first spring/sway install but now can do it all in about 3 hours if I stayed at it. If you needed any pointers on installing if you go that route, let me know. Not sure what your tool supply looks like but to do the job you need a lot of metric sockets and open ended wrenchs. You may spend more buying tools than an install. Consider another $100 for a 4 wheel alignment when done. You could always come to our mod day and I'd do it for free but the commute would be hell!

If it came down to it, springs for the stiffness and improved ride and look, then sways. I did springs, then sways about 2 months later. Springs impove the "floaty feel" and bounce over bumps. The ride is a tad rougher but nothing major. The sways will just add increased stability and cornering ability. I would say doing sways first would not be the best route. Sure it could be done but I'd stiffen up the ride first.

As far as strutt tower brace, do that if you like but I will tell you these cars are VERY stiff. You can jack up one side and it lifts BOTH! Its actually pretty amazing! Let me know if you need any pointer/help!!!
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i got the same set up with sways and sprins installed with tax for the low end of your range. you will enjoy them ...
I missed this comment... there ya go! Looks like it can be done WITH INSTALL!!!
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #14
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i got the same set up with sways and sprins installed with tax for the low end of your range. you will enjoy them ...
Nice! Where? lol
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I am betting you are VERY close to the ball park with $5-6 hundred. I paid $200 shipped for my springs and only $170 TOTAL for the sways BUT that was the C5Fest BOGO deal that you WON'T find again. I am pretty sure you could get all the hardware for what your looking to spend.

Now the install is another thing. I have installed at least 10 sets of each and I can say its VERY easy but takes a while first time. I spent better part of a day on my first spring/sway install but now can do it all in about 3 hours if I stayed at it. If you needed any pointers on installing if you go that route, let me know. Not sure what your tool supply looks like but to do the job you need a lot of metric sockets and open ended wrenchs. You may spend more buying tools than an install. Consider another $100 for a 4 wheel alignment when done. You could always come to our mod day and I'd do it for free but the commute would be hell!

If it came down to it, springs for the stiffness and improved ride and look, then sways. I did springs, then sways about 2 months later. Springs impove the "floaty feel" and bounce over bumps. The ride is a tad rougher but nothing major. The sways will just add increased stability and cornering ability. I would say doing sways first would not be the best route. Sure it could be done but I'd stiffen up the ride first.

As far as strutt tower brace, do that if you like but I will tell you these cars are VERY stiff. You can jack up one side and it lifts BOTH! Its actually pretty amazing! Let me know if you need any pointer/help!!!
Thanks brother, if I do the install myself you can bet I'll be callin

I don't have an extravagant tool arsenal, so I dunno... Just the CAI install meant 3 trips to Kragen
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Thanks brother, if I do the install myself you can bet I'll be callin

I don't have an extravagant tool arsenal, so I dunno... Just the CAI install meant 3 trips to Kragen


No problem buddy! Of the top pf my head you need:

10mm wrench
13mm wrench and socket
15mm wrench and socket
18mm wrench and socket
21mm wrench and socket
22mm wrench and socket
24mm wrench and socket
torque wrench
breaker bar
12" socket entension
24" socket extension (not required but REALLY helps - I just daisy chained a bunch of shorter ones together)
a few torque or star bits (not sure on sizes)
spring compressor
utility knife
low profile jack
4 jack stands (6 if youre like me)


YIKES Never realized it was so much!
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No problem buddy! Of the top pf my head you need:

10mm wrench
13mm wrench and socket
15mm wrench and socket
18mm wrench and socket
21mm wrench and socket
22mm wrench and socket
24mm wrench and socket
torque wrench
breaker bar
12" socket entension
24" socket extension (not required but REALLY helps - I just daisy chained a bunch of shorter ones together)
a few torque or star bits (not sure on sizes)
spring compressor
utility knife
low profile jack
4 jack stands (6 if youre like me)


YIKES Never realized it was so much!
Holy jeebiss!

I may hunt around for a shop that can do it cheap... I don't even have a garage...
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The last thing you ever want on any car let alone a 5th Gen is CHEAP LABOR. Find a high quality shop that does excellent work and stands behind the work they do and the products they sell. That combination is the best value, best bang for the buck every single time.

The Eibach bars are advertised as 29mm front and rear. I do not know if they are adjustable front and rear, but if they are the best setup for a 5th Gen would have the rear on full hard and the front on full soft. This will reduce understeer. Alignment is just as important in reducing understeer. The magic formula is setting the rear camber to half of the front setting. Turn in can be improved on an OE or modified suspension 5th Gen with front toe OUT. The more you toe it OUT the better the turn in will be. This comes at the direct expense of increased front tire wear. That is the beauty of the Pedders camber specifications, reducing the rear camber will INCREASE tire life.
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The last thing you ever want on any car let alone a 5th Gen is CHEAP LABOR. Find a high quality shop that does excellent work and stands behind the work they do and the products they sell. That combination is the best value, best bang for the buck every single time.

The Eibach bars are advertised as 29mm front and rear. I do not know if they are adjustable front and rear, but if they are the best setup for a 5th Gen would have the rear on full hard and the front on full soft. This will reduce understeer. Alignment is just as important in reducing understeer. The magic formula is setting the rear camber to half of the front setting. Turn in can be improved on an OE or modified suspension 5th Gen with front toe OUT. The more you toe it OUT the better the turn in will be. This comes at the direct expense of increased front tire wear. That is the beauty of the Pedders camber specifications, reducing the rear camber will INCREASE tire life.
Thanks Pete! Wish I had the scratch for some Pedders rigging, I hear it's top-notch!
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Thanks Pete! Wish I had the scratch for some Pedders rigging, I hear it's top-notch!
Thanks for the compliment. There is always the next time
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I installed the Eibach into my '05 GTO; they were just fine. Now, my Camaro has BMR which seem, so far, to be even better.
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wheel wharehose in anaheim. see devin . but that's kind'a far way for you.
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Heres my honest opinion on my eibach springs. First I was happy with them, but after 10k miles it seemed the car felt a little harsher then before. Maybe it was just me turning into a panzy so i didnt think alot about it. I rode in a friends car with coilovers from pedders and it was superior on the ride quality. Enough for me to order a set of coilovers. Just my 2cents. If you picky about ride quality then you wont beat a coilover. If you dont care about adjustments or having the best ride quality you can, then springs will work for ya fine.
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Sway bars are straight forward in terms of making a buying decision for the 5th Gen. From the factory, the 5th Gen understeers, a lot. Increasing the size of the rear bar relative to the front will reduce under steer.

Factor #1 Front to Rear Bar Ratio



#2 Strength of the Bars

#3 Are they adjustable front and rear


There are two companies that make an aggressive set of bars that are biased to an over steer mode and Pedders has the strongest sets of bars. Pedders 5th Gen bars have three adjustment positions front and rear giving you optimal control over setup.

Sway bars should not be purchased by price or reputation. One of the best names in the business is selling a giant front bar and small rear bar that will make the OE understeer problem worse that it was with the factor bars.

Check out the bar diameters.
Determine the bar strength.
Make an informed buying decision.

One last note, Pedders bars all come complete with Pedders OE quiet high efficiency endlinks.
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I have the Eibach Springs & Sways on mine and love them..

You can get them HERE for $261.10 with Free Shipping !! That is where I got mine! I paid a little more last year !!
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