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Old 02-08-2009, 06:45 AM   #1
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Was Friday the "Big Day"

Has any one heard anything from their dealers about how many cars they were able to get in the first batch and actually placed those orders? I can not get a response from my dealer and I haven't heard to much chatter on this site about hard numbers.Are there any hard facts on numbers actually sent in to gm or still just guessing amd hoping?
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:52 AM   #2
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there is a lot of talk about this....just do a little reading.
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Why is your dealership waiting til tuesday?
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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Our inventory manager's wife has cancer he leaves early on friday to travel to M.D.Anderson in Houston.I was with him when he asked our GM rep if he had to do it friday or when he came back monday,which is when he will do it.There was no benefit to do it on either day.fyi,After he left,the girl who assists him and I were talking about the orders and this forum.She showed me 2 more camaros that were allocated to us.I don't know why GM added those to our numbers,I only saw them in dealerworld as 2 requested and 2 approved.Does this means we will get 2 bonifide orders picked up or 2 more in addition to the 16 allocated.I will inquire monday about it more.If it's confusing to those here,be assured ,GM isn't showering dealers with concrete info on pre-orders either.
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I went to two local dealerships yesterday:

Sansone @ Perth Amboy, NJ:
"Uhhh, no idea. I have two orders so far. I think we will be getting a V8 showroom car." I asked the guy if they will be marking up the cars and he was like "I don't think so, this Z06 here is marked up and has been sitting here for weeks already, but let me make sure." He calls his manager, asks him if the cars will be marked up and the guy goes "Most likely"...

Lucas Chevrolet, Woodbridge, NJ:
"No idea, but I have like 15 orders already, if you don't order RIGHT NOW you won't get the car until 2011!"
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:21 AM   #6
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My question has been answered, now I just need to get my dealer to call me back and see if I made the first cut. thanks
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My question has been answered, now I just need to get my dealer to call me back and see if I made the first cut. thanks
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Here's my take (my opinion only folks).

On Friday, GM basically gave everyone 10% but didn't round up. If you had a PGN of 69, you got 6 on Friday, 10, you got 1 on Friday, if you had 9, you got 0. Supposedly this is only for the remaining two weeks of March (not a full month's run). Don't know about you but that impresses the hell out of me.
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Here's my take (my opinion only folks).

On Friday, GM basically gave everyone 10% but didn't round up. If you had a PGN of 69, you got 6 on Friday, 10, you got 1 on Friday, if you had 9, you got 0. Supposedly this is only for the remaining two weeks of March (not a full month's run). Don't know about you but that impresses the hell out of me.
That's my take on it too. After all, the concensus is for only a two week period, March 16 through March 31. And yes, it appears their initial production rate is not all that low.
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If you don't order now you won't get a Camaro till 2011? Are you kidding? So how did they produce sometimes over 100,000 in the past models and 40,000 in 2002. Has GM already decided on how many models they will make? I thought it was supply and demand, Help me out here what am I missing?

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Old 02-08-2009, 08:08 PM   #11
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If you don't order now you won't get a Camaro till 2011? Are you kidding? So how did they produce sometimes over 100,000 in the past models and 40,000 in 2002. Has GM already decided on how many models they will make? I thought it was supply and demand, Help me out here what am I missing?

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You're missing that it's only 2009 and it's a 2010 model year car. It could be 2010 before you see one if you don't order soon, but not 2011...
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:30 PM   #12
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Here's my take (my opinion only folks).

On Friday, GM basically gave everyone 10% but didn't round up. If you had a PGN of 69, you got 6 on Friday, 10, you got 1 on Friday, if you had 9, you got 0. Supposedly this is only for the remaining two weeks of March (not a full month's run). Don't know about you but that impresses the hell out of me.
but...but...my dealership only gets 6 :( no word on anyone w/ allotment less than 10 getting a march consensus?

the owner is calling me tomorrow to talk about my order and i'll get all my solid info about my order from him since my 'dealer' is an idiot (nice guy, just oblivious)
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So does this mean that some orders were picked up by GM already? Do we know this for sure. I am out of town, but will check with my dealer in a coupel of days...anybody have legit confirmed input on this?
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:17 AM   #14
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So does this mean that some orders were picked up by GM already? Do we know this for sure. I am out of town, but will check with my dealer in a coupel of days...anybody have legit confirmed input on this?
No orders have been picked up yet.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:51 AM   #15
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No orders have been picked up yet.
When will they be picked up? My ordering guy has said it will be automatic since I am in the system already...true? (if no constraints and they receive allocations)

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When will they be picked up? My ordering guy has said it will be automatic since I am in the system already...true? (if no constraints and they receive allocations)

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Anything I said regarding that would be pure speculation. As soon as I get some more reliable feedback from the outside world be sure this will be the first place to know what I hear. But, yes, it should be automatic from what I know and it will first be based on the priority number the dealer has you on. IIRC, the GM computer will look at #1, see if it matches a release allocated to the dealer, if so pull and tag it, if not, go to the next order, etc.
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Here's my take (my opinion only folks).

On Friday, GM basically gave everyone 10% but didn't round up. If you had a PGN of 69, you got 6 on Friday, 10, you got 1 on Friday, if you had 9, you got 0. Supposedly this is only for the remaining two weeks of March (not a full month's run). Don't know about you but that impresses the hell out of me.
Nope. I'm with you on the 10% but I think every dealer got at least one. It was said in and after the IDL that all dealers would get one v6 and one from their allotment. I know there was a person or 2 that said that their dealers didn't get any of their allocation but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just BSing to order lot cars instead.
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Nope. I'm with you on the 10% but I think every dealer got at least one. It was said in and after the IDL that all dealers would get one v6 and one from their allotment. I know there was a person or 2 that said that their dealers didn't get any of their allocation but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just BSing to order lot cars instead.
Upon further review this weekend I have to agree that there were "under 10" dealers who did get a March car. As to whether all did or not or they are simply BSing as you so aptly put it, we shall see.
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Nope. I'm with you on the 10% but I think every dealer got at least one. It was said in and after the IDL that all dealers would get one v6 and one from their allotment. I know there was a person or 2 that said that their dealers didn't get any of their allocation but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just BSing to order lot cars instead.
Nope. CamaroScotty got zero(0), zip, nada!
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Nope. CamaroScotty got zero(0), zip, nada!
Got link? I don't recall him saying what he got...
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No Camaros until 2010 if you dont' order one now. Sounds like a scare tactic to get over MSRP for dealers. I wouldn't fall for it. GM promised to produce 100,000 units and meet demand. Plus, its a bad market right now. Buyers will back out for one reason or another.

If you got the money and want to be the first on the block, I say go for it.
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No Camaros until 2010 if you dont' order one now. Sounds like a scare tactic to get over MSRP for dealers. I wouldn't fall for it. GM promised to produce 100,000 units and meet demand. Plus, its a bad market right now. Buyers will back out for one reason or another.

If you got the money and want to be the first on the block, I say go for it.
What's a scare tactic about saying you might not get a 2010 model year car until 2010 ?
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Upon further review this weekend I have to agree that there were "under 10" dealers who did get a March car. As to whether all did or not or they are simply BSing as you so aptly put it, we shall see.
My dealer has an allotment of 6. All are sold and all are SS cars. He got 1 in the consensus, had them all prioritized and let me see it on his screen. He said he would confirm the first one this week and it should be picked up by Friday if there were no constraints.
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reply from my dealer this morning (mon, 2/9) on what their consensus showed...

"We did not get a consensus for march production. Only one dealer in a 500 mile radios [sic] got one. As soon as the status changes I will call you."

500 miles from Dallas is a lot of ground - West Texas, Houston area, most of Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico.

Looks like production will really gear up in April.

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