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Old 12-24-2013, 03:13 PM   #1
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consumer reports worst picks?

Okay so I haven't owned my camaro to long but consumer reports has the 2SS convertible camaro as the worst. I saw this on a news blurb. Does anyone subscribe that can post the consumer report version up here? I'm interested In seeing what they based their decisions on. If gas mileage was a factor or not for one.... some other cars on the list were a surprise to me also like the Altima????

Has anyone seen this report yet?

I'm sure who ever wrote the report doesn't own a camaro most likely drives a mustang
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #2
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yes, I have read it. It's almost completely garbage. Consumer Reports is not a trustworthy source anymore, has not been for years

They put the Camaro in the "Sportscar / Convertible" category. Well, not all convertibles are sports cars, and not all sports cars are convertibles.


The "winner" was the Miata. Which does not do what the Camaro does. Thre loser was the Camaro, which does not do what the Miata does. It's a bogus comparison. Not only that, they deftly excluded the new Cadillac...oh, and the Stingray as well, which is a better sportscar than many cars which are better at being sportscars than the Miata

Do not concern yourself with what Consumer Reports says. They are a biased publication, and it seems to me they like whoever pays for advertising
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:34 PM   #3
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Consumer Report BS

Gelugon,

I have not seen the full report either, but to be honest any report that has the Toyota Prius listed in its top rankings, will not rank the Camaro as a great car .

To that extent I am very glad that my car is the total opposite of the Tree hugging Prius (and their owners).

uhh, can't wait to see what kind of crap I will get for this post. haha
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:36 PM   #4
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Consumer Reports did not put the Prius and the Camaro are not in the same category....the rankings they list are stupid but at least look at it before you start expounding on it
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:42 PM   #5
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Consumer Reports did not put the Prius and the Camaro are not in the same category....the rankings they list are stupid but at least look at it before you start expounding on it
ChrisBlair,

As I stated right at the beginning of my statement, I have not seen the report. I just read a story on the report and it started with the Prius and ended with he Camaro (not same category). More to the point, my post was meant jokingly rather than an evaluated statement.
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I thought you couldn't wait to see the kind of crap you were going to get

I guess I just can't please some people
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Old 12-24-2013, 04:00 PM   #7
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I know the report is crap. They only rate certain products and leave others out. I'm mainly interested is seeing the details of what they compared and what they compared it to.

I guess I need a good laugh. I love my car and that's all that matters.
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CR says the iPhone and iPad are bad buys.

Based on that, CR is invalid
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:53 PM   #9
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I always figger that if CR hates something, I'll like it. There are no gearheads on their staff...just tree huggers and import lovers.
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CR says the iPhone and iPad are bad buys.
well.....iphones are....nevermind wont start that fire ha
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:30 AM   #11
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Cool C.R

I trust C.R and I have received their magazine for a very long time; I have read everything on what they have writte in reference to what car is reliable vs what car isn't , new or used and here are the numbers that are located in the 2014 Buying Guide.

C.R listing as follows : Sport Cars: High - Performance.

1. BMW 135i - score 95
2. Subaru Impreza WRX STI - 89
3. Nissan 370Z Coupe Touring - 86
4. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR - 83
5. Ford Mustang GT Premium (V8) - 83
6. " " (V6) -76
7. Camaro 2SS (V8) - 71
8. Hyundai Genesis Coupe Grand Touring ( V6) - 70
9. Dodge Challenger R/T ( V8) - 67
10. Camaro 2 LT (V6) - 60

C.R recommendation = 1,2,3,6 & 7.

Then they have a category for the following.

1. SportyCars
2. Roadsters
3. Convertibles: Four -Seat
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:35 AM   #12
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I always figger that if CR hates something, I'll like it. There are no gearheads on their staff...just tree huggers and import lovers.
Simply not true however you have every right to your opinion.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:01 AM   #13
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CR's reviews of cars are just like what the bimbo at work would say: "My car is, like, really great, 'cause the speedometer says 140 MPH on it, so it's really fast, and the horn is so adorable, too. The doors also lock automatically when I close them, so, it's a really good car."

"Cool... what KIND of car is it?"

"It's a blue one!"
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Consumer Reports needs to be evaluated and ranked as a magazine. We purchased two of their #1 ranked $1000.00 each items a few years ago and both appliance items are long in the trash.
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CR says the iPhone and iPad are bad buys.

Based on that, CR is invalid
Hey! Maybe there's hope for them after all! I never could understand people's fascination with things with apples on them. They're stuff is always overpriced and their quality is mediocre at best. There's always something for about a third the price that will do more.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #16
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I dropped consumer reports a long time ago. Their reports are biased for anything foreign. Until they become truly unbiased, I won't subscribe to anything they have to recommend. Their opinion means nothing to me personally.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #17
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I trust C.R and I have received their magazine for a very long time; I have read everything on what they have writte in reference to what car is reliable vs what car isn't , new or used and here are the numbers that are located in the 2014 Buying Guide.

C.R listing as follows : Sport Cars: High - Performance.

1. BMW 135i - score 95
2. Subaru Impreza WRX STI - 89
3. Nissan 370Z Coupe Touring - 86
4. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR - 83
5. Ford Mustang GT Premium (V8) - 83
6. " " (V6) -76
7. Camaro 2SS (V8) - 71
8. Hyundai Genesis Coupe Grand Touring ( V6) - 70
9. Dodge Challenger R/T ( V8) - 67
10. Camaro 2 LT (V6) - 60

C.R recommendation = 1,2,3,6 & 7.
Two comments. 1. Consumer reports car evaluations suck and have for a long time. In 1974 I had a friend with an MGB. His car, which he loved, was rated poorly by CR because it was easy to bang your head on the trunk lid while putting things in the truck. Not normally the criteria a sane person would use to evaluate a British sports car.

2. I owned a 135i before the Camaro. I traded it after I took it in to have the radio replaced and BMW applied "mandatory updates" that reduced the power and slowed the shifting on the dual clutch transmission. I had read about the updates and did not want them, they told me I had no choice if I wanted the broken radio replaced under warranty. The speculation on the BMW forum was that the "mandatory update" was done to reduce strain on the drive train and reduce warranty claims. BMW believes they own your car and they can do what they want with it, even if you paid cash. It was a good car, but I came to hate owning it.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:46 PM   #18
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No way CR is biased....I remember back when the Chevy Nova was just a Toyota Corolla with Chevy Badges on it, built in the same plant by the same people with the same parts, the Corolla they rated excellent in reliability and the Nova was just average. The Corolla was also recommended but the Nova wasn't... Nope no bias there.
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Two comments. 1. Consumer reports car evaluations suck and have for a long time. In 1974 I had a friend with an MGB. His car, which he loved, was rated poorly by CR because it was easy to bang your head on the trunk lid while putting things in the truck. Not normally the criteria a sane person would use to evaluate a British sports car.

2. I owned a 135i before the Camaro. I traded it after I took it in to have the radio replaced and BMW applied "mandatory updates" that reduced the power and slowed the shifting on the dual clutch transmission. I had read about the updates and did not want them, they told me I had no choice if I wanted the broken radio replaced under warranty. The speculation on the BMW forum was that the "mandatory update" was done to reduce strain on the drive train and reduce warranty claims. BMW believes they own your car and they can do what they want with it, even if you paid cash. It was a good car, but I came to hate owning it.

1. C.R is not as bad as what people are claiming; yes they do tend to look at everything and give a fair accesment which will allow for a consumer to make a sound conclusion or the consumer can view the item in person and decide for themselves after all we do have the ability to form an opinion that is if an individual has the ability to form a though process.

2. Sounds like BMW was being dishonest, greedy and attempting to add to their bottom line; this has nothing to do with C.R!
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CR says the iPhone and iPad are bad buys.

Based on that, CR is invalid
I would agree with that. Only think the Iphone has going for it is its trendy.
Compared to all other phones it doesnt have anything better

Tablets i havent read enough about but i would figure its the same.
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I bought the ipad and still read C.R; hit and miss with some of the items. One should realize no company or individual will ever be perfect, learn and move forward.
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Basically if your experiences are the same as CR then you will tend to agree with CR and you will think they are great but if your experiences are different than CR then they Suck. My experiences are they have been wrong more than that have been right with the cars I have owned.
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Cool Consumer Reports is clueless

Consumer Reports rating criteria have nothing to do with style, class, cool, fun or swag.

They would rate a Rolex Datona watch as a ten worst, since you could buy a Swatch watch for 50 bucks instead of $10,000, and the Swatch would keep better time than the Rolex.

They are all about "practicality" and cheap price.

Their BEST is a Prius? Bah humbug.

I'm proud to be on their worst ten list.

I own 7 Vettes and I LOVE my 2014 2SS convertible V8!

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I gave up on CR in 1984.

They recommended a Volvo for $40K over the $20K Buick because it handled better when fully loaded.

The windshield distortion was unacceptable in the Volvo according to their report.

Who is always driving a fully loaded car? A salesman with samples and products?

Three times a year we went camping for a weekend. Otherwise we went to work and back with an empty vehicle. We bought the Buick.

Don't ask about the washer/dryer or refrigerator disasters. Aholes say they don't take any advertising money...
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2. Sounds like BMW was being dishonest, greedy and attempting to add to their bottom line; this has nothing to do with C.R!
I agree, that had nothing to do with CR. I just couldn't resist since I owned the car they rated #1 immediately before my Camaro 2SS. Another person pointed out that your opinion of CR depends on whether your experiences agree with CR or not. I is totally accurate. Although the 135i was a fun car and was pretty much as fast as the SS was when new, my experience with it was not good. Because of a problem that I cannot discuss due to a non disclosure agreement, I lacked confidence in the car. When they intentionally detuned it, that was the final straw. Despite substantial mods, I haven't had a bit of trouble with the Camaro in 2 years. Its hard for me to stay off this subject when I see the 135i rated #1 and the Camaro 2SS #7.
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