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Old 02-09-2009, 04:17 PM   #1
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Nav Systems left out?

This question has probably already been posed by someone, but I didn't see it. Are NAV Systems being offered on the 2SS?
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:19 PM   #2
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Nope. No NAV on any Camaro, at least for 2010.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:46 PM   #3
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Not sure why they would add the NAV, it's expensive and directly competes with GM's Onstar Turn by Turn service. I may be wrong here, but they are trying everything possible to make Onstar profitable, and selling turn by turn (which would cost $10/month plus basic Onstar of $18/month, after the free 1st year) helps with the profitablity. Plus it's also a value play, turn by turn is $10/month compared to thousands for the NAV, and Camaro is being promoted as a value car.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:41 PM   #4
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I don't want some computer telling me where to drive this car! If i want another driver in the car I will bring the wife!
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:09 PM   #5
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2 words... "Blackberry Storm"

Has build in Navigation so i don't need a nav system in a car cause I've got it on my phone.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:56 PM   #6
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Many people have portable GPS and that's the way to go if you ask me , you can use them car to car especially rentals. Anyhow I believe once you tell Onstar where you want to go the directions turn by turn are downloaded into your car, a display will show them and audio prompts just like a nav system and will prompt you till you get to your destination. The great thing its basically hands off and hands free after you hit the onstar button. Close to 2G's it would take you almost 15 years to make the difference up. Allot of people love NAV system as the centerpiece/showpiece for the car if that's what turns you on there's always aftermarket.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:44 PM   #7
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There is no substitute for a factory nav system. Anything less is an excuse for what GM should have made available. Offer it & for those of you who don't want to spend the money, don't buy it. I have had factory nav systems (6 GM/1 Jeep) in the last 7 vehicles purchased. They are worth every dime, even with turn by turn instructions. We live in the world of technology = give us the blasted option!
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:46 PM   #8
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2 words... "Blackberry Storm"

Has build in Navigation so i don't need a nav system in a car cause I've got it on my phone.
Almost all new phones have built in turn by turn nav system. Also depending on your cell phone company, it costs a pretty penny to use. I've had my phone since '05 and it has turn by turn nav but to use requires another plan that is $20 a month for the basic plan.

Personally I would go buy a Tom-Tom for $200 and never have to worry about making a monthly payment and it would pay for itself after 10 months.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:18 PM   #9
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Factory navigation systems depreciate a cars resale more than if it did not offer one. This is due to the technology of the navigation would be obsolete after a few years, and also the software on some indash navs are not updated fast enough to be useful. After a few years it would probably not be feasible for an automotive company to keep updates for certain navigation systems. My factory navigation in my mazda is so useless right now that I dont even use it. Right now it shows me living in the middle of a great big field in the middle of nowhere. Unless the software is upgradeable I would never ever consider another factory navigation again. Aftermarket gives you a lot of more options with constant updates (depending on which model) to mapping.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:19 PM   #10
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The Onstar turn by turn does download the directions to the car. On my wife's '08 Avalanche, the DIC (driver information center) indicated the next direction and the systems mutes the radio to deliver voice directions (i.e. Turn right on Oak street). We have only used the service a couple of times, as we have a portable GPS for its portability and low cost.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:15 PM   #11
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This question has probably already been posed by someone, but I didn't see it. Are NAV Systems being offered on the 2SS?
Yes. OnStar Turn-by-Turn can be had in the Camaro. It will use the display between the guages to communicate directions to you. Some dislike the system because it is different. But almost everyone I've ever talked to who's actually used it doesn't mind Turn-by-Turn at all.

There is, however, no in-dash, touch-screen, $2000, 5-inch, DVD Navicomputer from Star Trek...that was left out so we can have things like an LLT, LS3 or IRS at an astonishing price...
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:17 PM   #12
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Factory navigation systems depreciate a cars resale more than if it did not offer one. This is due to the technology of the navigation would be obsolete after a few years, and also the software on some indash navs are not updated fast enough to be useful. After a few years it would probably not be feasible for an automotive company to keep updates for certain navigation systems. My factory navigation in my mazda is so useless right now that I dont even use it. Right now it shows me living in the middle of a great big field in the middle of nowhere. Unless the software is upgradeable I would never ever consider another factory navigation again. Aftermarket gives you a lot of more options with constant updates (depending on which model) to mapping.
I agree 100%. There are always new roads and POI's, that unless the NAV system has the updatability of the standalone systems it's not worth it. The only thing I can see making it worth it is if your the type of person that needs that "Bling factor" of the NAV screen in your dash.
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:22 PM   #13
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Just personal opinion but NAV is way overrated. You can get on a BlackBerry now and it works quite well. Unless you are a traveling salesman that goes all over the state/countryside, I don't see the need. Cool technology though...
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:34 PM   #14
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I don't want some computer telling me where to drive this car! If i want another driver in the car I will bring the wife!
So true..
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:51 PM   #15
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Ditch the Nav system and buy a map. Problem solved.
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:25 PM   #16
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I don't have a nav system in any of my cars now and don't really need one obviously - however, if they can put one in the POS Yaris, they should put a flip up one in a 2SS - as an added option of course.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:07 PM   #17
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Or just bring your wife.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:35 PM   #18
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Almost all new phones have built in turn by turn nav system. Also depending on your cell phone company, it costs a pretty penny to use. I've had my phone since '05 and it has turn by turn nav but to use requires another plan that is $20 a month for the basic plan.

Personally I would go buy a Tom-Tom for $200 and never have to worry about making a monthly payment and it would pay for itself after 10 months.
I compared my Garmin to My VZ Navigator on my BlackBerry Storm.. and the VZ navigator is only off by about 20 feet.. but It costs me nothing since I have a Data plan from Blackberry.


Just get something small and portable and ur okay.
PS, map updates can cost like $70.. for some GPS units.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:47 AM   #20
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I compared my Garmin to My VZ Navigator on my BlackBerry Storm.. and the VZ navigator is only off by about 20 feet.. but It costs me nothing since I have a Data plan from Blackberry.


Just get something small and portable and ur okay.
PS, map updates can cost like $70.. for some GPS units.
Odd, I have TWO BB Storm's and to get Verizon's VZ Navigator Service it added another $10 a month on top of my phone and data plan and since I have TWO Storms everything is DOUBLED. My monthly phone bill is $157/month from Verizon.

So using my BB as a GPS/Nav isn't cheap and the screen is rather small especially when mounted on the dash about 3 feet from my face. In addition the voice/speaker can't overcome wind or audio system noise.

There are pluses and minuses to both approaches so we really can't say one is BETTER than ANOTHER - just DIFFERENT.
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I've got the Garmin Mobile XT software on my Windows Mobile based Sprint Mogul (HTC Titan/6800) and it works just like a standalone Garmin unit, maybe better. TomTom makes software too. I don't pay any usage fees. It can use the internet to find stuff like gas prices and use google to find addresses but it doesn't have to.
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I compared my Garmin to My VZ Navigator on my BlackBerry Storm.. and the VZ navigator is only off by about 20 feet.. but It costs me nothing since I have a Data plan from Blackberry.


Just get something small and portable and ur okay.
PS, map updates can cost like $70.. for some GPS units.
That's funny. According to Verizons site, the Data plan for Blackberry's does not include navigation.

$70 for map updates every what 2 years? That's still cheaper then paying an extra $10-$20 a month. $70 vs a minimum of $240. Seems like a no brainer to me. Even if you're the type of person who travels a lot and needs to update every year, $70 is still cheaper then $120.
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I won't need a factory NAV for mine. I have a Garmin Nuvi and it works just great and I don't have a pile of raggedy old wet and crumpled maps in my car anymore. I can also use this in anyone of my four vehciles.

But, that's my preference.
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM   #24
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The nav on the 3G iPhone works pretty good. We have the nav in my wifes Denali, but the update disc is pretty expensive..
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