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Old 02-28-2011, 12:10 AM   #1
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what do the letters stand for, if anything.

Just curious and im bored. But what exactly does ZL1 stand for, if anything.

I know how the z28 name came to be, just curious if any of the other Z labels actually mean anyting or are they just random letters and numbers because someone at GM is in love with the letter Z.

It would be cool if it actually stood for something, but im guessing its meaningless.

ill toss out an idea.

Zero Latency 1

Latency is a measure of time delay experienced in a system, the precise definition of which depends on the system and the time being measured.
In the case of the Camaro ZL1, there is zero latency from the moment you step on the gas to full permagrin.


GM you owe me dinner if you actually use this (and a zl1). lol.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:12 AM   #2
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As far as I know, it's just an RPO code that became the popular designation for a high-performance Camaro, just like the ZR1/Z06 Corvettes, Z71 trucks, etc.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:01 AM   #3
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As far as I know, it's just an RPO code that became the popular designation for a high-performance Camaro, just like the ZR1/Z06 Corvettes, Z71 trucks, etc.
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+3 RPO only. Though - unless this is an acronym, I'd LOVE to know what it means!
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I "personally" don't like ZL1 as much as Z28. I don't care for the ZR1 as much as I do Z06.

(We're only talking about the letter combo, not the car)

I had mentioned the ZL1 to many people as the next high performance Camaro, and in every conversation, people say, "what happened to Z28? What ZL1?"
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:34 PM   #6
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I "personally" don't like ZL1 as much as Z28. I don't care for the ZR1 as much as I do Z06.

(We're only talking about the letter combo, not the car)

I had mentioned the ZL1 to many people as the next high performance Camaro, and in every conversation, people say, "what happened to Z28? What ZL1?"
That's been a concern, if you will, of mine, too. Nearly everyone knows what Z28 was; hardly anyone knows what ZL1 is. However, not everyone is going to want ZL1, so what's the harm in it not being as known as Z28? Shoot - I thought I've been waiting for Z28; it turns out, I was wrong!

For people like us - ZL1 is the top of the heap. To me - that's all that matters, because I'm not getting it for people to recognize.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:41 PM   #7
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Here's a very informative article on the ZL1 engine.

http://www.camaros.org/copo.shtml
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That's been a concern, if you will, of mine, too. Nearly everyone knows what Z28 was; hardly anyone knows what ZL1 is. However, not everyone is going to want ZL1, so what's the harm in it not being as known as Z28? Shoot - I thought I've been waiting for Z28; it turns out, I was wrong!

For people like us - ZL1 is the top of the heap. To me - that's all that matters, because I'm not getting it for people to recognize.
Always love your points, Radz...

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that's all that matters, because I'm not getting it for people to recognize.
Believe it or not, you'll be amazed, how many people in the world, buy a car brand or model, to make a subtle [yet powerful] statement. For example, when I see the letters 335 or M3 on the back of a BMW, my brain automatically forms a different judgment about the car, the driver and etc.

The amount of money GM spent to create that "Image" of Z28 in our brain, is unfortunately not being capitalized properly. I'll bet you, many people who ARE into names, would not jump on ZL1, but they would if it was Z28.

It's like once this old guy (who could barely drive) said, "I only drive AMG". So many unqualified people buy AMG, just because of the status.

I think, GM did a major disservice to it's lineup. My two cents after driving cars for 35 years
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Always love your points, Radz...

Believe it or not, you'll be amazed, how many people in the world, buy a car brand or model, to make a subtle [yet powerful] statement. For example, when I see the letters 335 or M3 on the back of a BMW, my brain automatically forms a different judgment about the car, the driver and etc.

The amount of money GM spent to create that "Image" of Z28 in our brain, is unfortunately not being capitalized properly. I'll bet you, many people who ARE into names, would not jump on ZL1, but they would if it was Z28.

It's like once this old guy (who could barely drive) said, "I only drive AMG". So many unqualified people buy AMG, just because of the status.

I think, GM did a major disservice to it's lineup. My two cents after driving cars for 35 years
You're totally right. Those are more car-people than tose I was thinking about, but you're totally right. You're totally right about how I initally felt about Z28, but I'm over it now. I now know that's what I want, and because I really appreciate what ZL-1 was in the past, I don't feel GM necessarily missed the target on the name. I still question that Z28 was a more rounded car than ZL-1 was, but I'm especially glad it wasn't just a random name; or even a name that had nothing to do with a special CAMARO.

I love all your points though MANY KUDOS
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My real question is how are people pronouncing it?

I know in the states you guys usally say Zee... and up here we say Zed. I personally think that ZedR1, Zed06, Zed28 and ZedL1 sounds better than ZeeL1, etc.
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My real question is how are people pronouncing it?

I know in the states you guys usally say Zee... and up here we say Zed. I personally think that ZedR1, Zed06, Zed28 and ZedL1 sounds better than ZeeL1, etc.
You guys talk weird up there J/K I agree Zed does sound a little better, but I'm sure I'd get some strange looks considering the vernacular in my parts, lol.
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do you guys say X,Y,Zed when saying the abc's?
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RPO code?
I thought it was an engine designation in 69
Just like LS3, L99 and LLT today.
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